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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2008, 11:32:00 »

Ticket inspector suggests simply checking tickets though, whereas RPIs (Revenue Protection Inspector, or Retail Price Index, depending on context) check for valid tickets and dish out penalty fares where required.

Well, CT/LM (London Midland - recent franchise) ticket inspectors give out penalty fares. The guards/conductors just check tickets (sometimes).

The barrier staff which do temporary barriers at LM stations are ticket inspectors.
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2008, 22:13:30 »


Well, CT/LM (London Midland - recent franchise) ticket inspectors give out penalty fares. The guards/conductors just check tickets (sometimes).


So if the guard/conductor who just check tickets find someone without a ticket or with a wrong ticket, they can't give out penalty fares then (with apologies if I'm misunderstanding!!)?
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2008, 22:47:14 »

Correct.
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2008, 23:08:41 »

In a previous discussion, Vacman gave a useful explanation of the reasons for this difference in their respective roles: see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=1718.msg12494#msg12494
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2008, 23:27:39 »

OK, so I'm still a little confused here.. What reason are they checking tickets? Can they sell tickets to people without them, just not issue fines?

I travel Maidenhead/London daily and we only have the people that can fine you checking tickets as far as I know. I have an annual season ticket so don't really know much about that kind of thing..
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2008, 00:35:17 »

Anyone you see on the stopping services via Reading will be a member of revenue protection, and so will be checking and issuing penalty fares, but they can issue tickets. But only if it falls within the conditions, i.e. not possible to buy a ticket at station so had to buy on train.
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2008, 14:18:22 »

And don't forget if you accidentally buy, say, a Reading to London route Staines ticket - and then decide you want to go on the Reading - London Padd stopper they can't PF (Penalty Fare) you as penalty fares cannot be issued for going off route. Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2008, 17:42:12 »

Of course, if there were more ticket offices / machines (and more barriers at major stations) then you could have guards doing penalty fares, as less people would not have a ticket!

Except after very small stations, there should be no ticket selling onboard trains.
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