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Zoe
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« on: November 25, 2008, 12:52:51 »

I read that tickets are not transferable so am I technically not allowed to go to the station and buy a ticket for another person if they are not with me at the station.
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2008, 13:48:04 »

This is my understanding as a passenger...

IIRC ('if I recall/remember/read correctly') the national conditions of carriage say that you can't transfer a ticket to a person for whom it wasn't brought.  This means that you can buy a ticket for a friend even if they are not there with you.  Similarly a businessperson could ask his/her secretary to buy a ticket for him/her.

Technically it would seem to be illegal to give or sell a ticket to someone whom you did not have in mind when the ticket was purchased.  However, I am sure that you will appreciate that it is very difficult to prosecute someone on the basis of what is supposedly an intention without an ability to read people's minds.

I suspect that the only time that the TOCs (Train Operating Company) are motivated and able to enforce the rule is when you get ticket touts collecting unstamped or rover tickets from passengers and reselling them.  The rule in the NCC allow the TOC to treat the passenger who has bought his ticket from a tout as not having a valid ticket (because it wasn't brought for them.  It allows them to target those who buy from touts rather than just the touts themselves (although they would have to have some evidence, ie have seen, the purchase from the tout).     
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 19:54:18 »

Of course, if tickets were checked, and there were more barriers, this would not be a problem.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2008, 20:08:07 »

Travelcards would still be an issue.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 16:47:25 »

Ever been to a car park that charges all day, often motorists leaving will pass on there ticket to a motorist just arriving, whats that got to do with FGW (First Great Western), well for travel within the St  Ives Branch Only, tickets are Rovers allowing unlimited travel for the day so often day trippers leaving the Lelant Saltings Car Park will pass on their tickets to evening vistors.

Nice one and certain to screw up the "foot fall" figures.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 18:32:01 »

Ever been to a car park that charges all day, often motorists leaving will pass on there ticket to a motorist just arriving, whats that got to do with FGW (First Great Western), well for travel within the St  Ives Branch Only, tickets are Rovers allowing unlimited travel for the day so often day trippers leaving the Lelant Saltings Car Park will pass on their tickets to evening vistors.

Nice one and certain to screw up the "foot fall" figures.  Roll Eyes

dont the rover tickets have your name printed on them, the devon day ranger does
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 19:24:26 »

"Their" not "there."

In the case of car parking - good. It is a rip off.

ALL station car parks should be FREE for BR (British Rail(ways)) customers - with barriers if possible to restrict entry.

Let's expand car parks by getting rid of the old sidings and abandoned land (and not sell it off to build houses).
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 20:08:48 »

ALL station car parks should be FREE for BR (British Rail(ways)) customers - with barriers if possible to restrict entry.
The last BR customers were in 1997.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008, 21:12:48 »

A short, generic term for rail passengers.

But tbh, the meaning is the same whether the TOC (Train Operating Company) is First Great Western, or Worst Late Western.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2008, 21:41:05 »

Quote from: Btline
"Their" not "there."

Awww
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2008, 23:00:50 »

Glad to see you are still (spell) checking TJ.  Grin

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2008, 23:48:36 »

Don't encourage him!   Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2008, 12:51:24 »

Ever been to a car park that charges all day, often motorists leaving will pass on there ticket to a motorist just arriving, whats that got to do with FGW (First Great Western), well for travel within the St  Ives Branch Only, tickets are Rovers allowing unlimited travel for the day so often day trippers leaving the Lelant Saltings Car Park will pass on their tickets to evening vistors.

Nice one and certain to screw up the "foot fall" figures.  Roll Eyes
Bit impossible to do at the saltings as you actually have to drive past the person selling tickets and buy it from your car window, and i've NEVER had anyone get on at the saltings in the evening that has already got a ticket so I really don't think it's as rife as you make out smokey!
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2008, 18:46:01 »

Ever been to a car park that charges all day, often motorists leaving will pass on there ticket to a motorist just arriving, whats that got to do with FGW (First Great Western), well for travel within the St  Ives Branch Only, tickets are Rovers allowing unlimited travel for the day so often day trippers leaving the Lelant Saltings Car Park will pass on their tickets to evening vistors.

Nice one and certain to screw up the "foot fall" figures.  Roll Eyes

dont the rover tickets have your name printed on them, the devon day ranger does

Only new FGW style machines can issue names on Rovers. The ones which issue tickets with little tabs on the sides cannot.
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