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« Reply #630 on: June 21, 2014, 10:18:31 » |
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Milton Keynes, Watford and Stevenage do not compare to Reading at all; Reading has a complexity of connecting services, the entry exit figure at Reading make Milton Keynes, Watford Jcn and Stevenage look like branch line stations and that is not even looking at the interchange figures.
The facts are Reading is one of (if not the) busiest stations outside London.
A better comparison of figures would be to use Slough or Maidenhead for services to Watford, Milton Keynes and Stevenage
Entry / Exit figures for 2012/13
Reading 15,121,768
Milton Keynes 5,557,870
Watford Junction 5,183,730
Stevenage 4,338,702
Slough 5,573,708
Maidenhead 3,963,876
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« Reply #631 on: June 23, 2014, 07:16:43 » |
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Maid-->Paddington has a 1.5 carriage First Class. 15 people including myself are standing.
It is infuriating.
Train manager is "at the back if you want him". I try really hard not to swear on this forum but I might have to quite soon.
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« Reply #632 on: June 23, 2014, 12:26:56 » |
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Maid-->Paddington has a 1.5 carriage First Class. 15 people including myself are standing.
It is infuriating.
Train manager is "at the back if you want him". I try really hard not to swear on this forum but I might have to quite soon.
No comfort to you, but this was all so predictable. |
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« Reply #633 on: June 23, 2014, 12:59:28 » |
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Maid-->Paddington has a 1.5 carriage First Class. 15 people including myself are standing.
It is infuriating.
Train manager is "at the back if you want him". I try really hard not to swear on this forum but I might have to quite soon.
As long as you don't swear at the onboard staff; it is not an issue of our making! |
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« Reply #634 on: June 23, 2014, 13:14:08 » |
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Once all of the 'walk throughs' entered First Class to make sure they get off 10 milliseconds faster there were 30 people standing in the carriage.
I think it is pretty slack of the TM▸ to hide at the back of the train, fully aware of the carnage at the front (because he made a special announcement about it), rather than speaking to passengers and checking tickets.
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« Reply #635 on: June 23, 2014, 13:31:57 » |
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Maid-->Paddington has a 1.5 carriage First Class. 15 people including myself are standing.
It is infuriating.
Train manager is "at the back if you want him". I try really hard not to swear on this forum but I might have to quite soon.
Very poor, but predictable. I believe that compensation is payable is one has to stand with a first class ticket. If however the train manager is hiding at the back, how is one to prove that one had to stand ? |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #636 on: June 23, 2014, 15:22:03 » |
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Maid-->Paddington has a 1.5 carriage First Class. 15 people including myself are standing.
It is infuriating.
Train manager is "at the back if you want him". I try really hard not to swear on this forum but I might have to quite soon.
Very poor, but predictable. I believe that compensation is payable is one has to stand with a first class ticket. If however the train manager is hiding at the back, how is one to prove that one had to stand ? Yes, I regularly claim for this when applicable and no proof is needed. I'd prefer a seat though... |
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« Reply #637 on: June 23, 2014, 15:36:21 » |
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...fully aware of the carnage at the front...
Hmm, [checks dictionary], so how many were killed? Paul |
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« Reply #638 on: June 23, 2014, 16:10:17 » |
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...fully aware of the carnage at the front...
Hmm, [checks dictionary], so how many were killed? Paul Paul I think that remark is in pretty poor taste to be honest, although I'm sure it wasn't intended to be. |
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« Reply #639 on: June 23, 2014, 16:25:45 » |
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...fully aware of the carnage at the front...
Hmm, [checks dictionary], so how many were killed? Paul Paul I think that remark is in pretty poor taste to be honest, although I'm sure it wasn't intended to be. I think the point was, the definition of carnage is: the slaughter of a great number of people, as in battle; butchery; massacre. |
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If my employer feels I have broken any aspect of the Social Media Policy, please PM me immediately, so I can rectify without delay.
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« Reply #640 on: June 23, 2014, 16:32:38 » |
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...fully aware of the carnage at the front...
Hmm, [checks dictionary], so how many were killed? Paul Paul I think that remark is in pretty poor taste to be honest, although I'm sure it wasn't intended to be. It wasn't intended to be - it was meant to show the term originally used was exaggeration - pure and simple. If anything it is the original use that was in poor taste, given the history of the line... Paul |
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« Reply #641 on: June 23, 2014, 18:09:12 » |
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Hmm ...  I'd like to thank members here for their commendably polite discussion of that particular use of a potentially emotive word in this specific context. A quick search on this forum shows that the word 'carnage' has often been used - not necessarily in its literal sense but also in a 'railway enthusiasts' sense - and I think that's what we are discussing here. No offence intended, nor taken, hopefully.  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #642 on: June 23, 2014, 19:45:53 » |
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Maid-->Paddington has a 1.5 carriage First Class. 15 people including myself are standing.
It is infuriating.
Train manager is "at the back if you want him". I try really hard not to swear on this forum but I might have to quite soon.
I understand your frustration, but if people are standing in First Class is it possible that the level of crowding in standard class made it difficult for the train manager to get from the back of the train? |
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« Reply #643 on: June 23, 2014, 20:08:06 » |
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The meaning of words change, and it's often educational to watch the change in progress. "Awful" once meant exactly the opposite to today's meaning (i.e. "so wonderful, it inspires awe"). "Gay" up until the 1960s meant happy, cheerful, full of fun; it was then adopted as an alternative to "camp"; and nowadays in the hands of the young it's a derogatory term indicative of something nobody in their right mind would even begin to contemplate ("OMG▸ !! I've never experienced ANYTHING so gay in all of my 13 years!!!!"). Carnage is a great example of a word currently in transition. Whereas once it was reserved for the description of unspeakable death and destruction, it's nowadays just as likely to be used to describe an unfortunate event or situation with seriously detrimental social consequences, usually involving drink.
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« Reply #644 on: June 23, 2014, 20:23:23 » |
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Carnage is a great example of a word currently in transition. Whereas once it was reserved for the description of unspeakable death and destruction, it's nowadays just as likely to be used to describe an unfortunate event or situation with seriously detrimental social consequences, usually involving drink.
Just shows what a sheltered life I lead |
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