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« Reply #885 on: January 30, 2015, 20:55:06 »
Have also seen that 2.5 this week :-)
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« Reply #886 on: January 30, 2015, 21:31:08 »
Quote from: IndustryInsider on January 30, 2015, 18:52:33
Quote from: NickB on January 30, 2015, 18:12:25
Thought I'd check this evening to be sure and I was right. The 17.48 to Worcester is still a full sized 2.5 carriage section, so thats a lie. And guess what? There's loads of seats in standard too. On a Friday. In rush hour. 😀

That's a bit odd - the rostered rake of coaches (LA05) is listed as 2 first class and 6 standard class?

When was M a standard class coach?
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« Reply #887 on: January 31, 2015, 09:12:35 »
None of the full size buffets have yet had tgeir seats swapped for the new ones. The full length 1sts are being dine to start with
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« Reply #888 on: January 31, 2015, 11:13:46 »
Quote from: bobm on January 30, 2015, 21:31:08
When was M a standard class coach?

'M' is used quite a lot within the coach lettering TOPS▸ (Total Operations Processing System) uses - which feeds Genius that I used to get the screen grab.  Not sure why.
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« Reply #889 on: January 31, 2015, 12:00:53 »
Quote from: ChrisB on January 31, 2015, 09:12:35
None of the full size buffets have yet had tgeir seats swapped for the new ones. The full length 1sts are being dine to start with

One of them certainly has.  I believe it was the set that formed the 07:40 PGN-PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) (on Friday) with 1 1/2 1st class and both coaches had the new seats, which stuck in my mind as I normally only see 1 coach with the new seats in per set.
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« Reply #890 on: January 31, 2015, 12:36:49 »
Think the vehicle in question was 40802, as the refurbed buffet coach.
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« Reply #891 on: February 01, 2015, 07:44:26 »
Quote from: Super Guard on January 31, 2015, 12:00:53
Quote from: ChrisB on January 31, 2015, 09:12:35
None of the full size buffets have yet had tgeir seats swapped for the new ones. The full length 1sts are being dine to start with

One of them certainly has.  I believe it was the set that formed the 07:40 PGN-PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) (on Friday) with 1 1/2 1st class and both coaches had the new seats, which stuck in my mind as I normally only see 1 coach with the new seats in per set.

You might want to double check your sources Chris B. Someone is telling you porkies...



That was taken on the 18th December 2014
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« Reply #892 on: February 01, 2015, 09:36:51 »
In the foreground on the left is the new "Alok Sharma seat" where first class passengers must perch after finding no available seating.

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« Reply #893 on: February 01, 2015, 09:43:06 »
May be they turned one out as a trial/mock up
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« Reply #894 on: February 01, 2015, 15:14:47 »
Still at least two sets running around with just one FC▸ (First Class, or Fat Controller, or Football Club, depending on context) coach.
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« Reply #895 on: February 01, 2015, 15:55:39 »
And I don't think any composite coaches have been started on yet. Looks like it's been full 1st Class coaches done first, then buffet/kitchen coaches (TRFB▸ (Trailer Restaurant First Buffet (Mark 3 coach type))), with the composites (50% 1st/50% Std) being done last.
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« Reply #896 on: February 04, 2015, 09:37:17 »
Quote from: bignosemac on February 01, 2015, 15:55:39
And I don't think any composite coaches have been started on yet. Looks like it's been full 1st Class coaches done first, then buffet/kitchen coaches (TRFB▸ (Trailer Restaurant First Buffet (Mark 3 coach type))), with the composites (50% 1st/50% Std) being done last.

Which is a strange order if you want to provide the extra capacity as quickly as possible, as you'd surely leave the TRFB's until last as they're a like-for-like conversion?
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« Reply #897 on: February 22, 2015, 19:29:13 »
Finally travelled on my first train with two refurbished first class coaches. 

Only snag was both were labelled as coach K!
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« Reply #898 on: February 22, 2015, 19:44:17 »
That's temporary though, isn't it? All sets will ultimately have 1.5 1st Class Coaches. Either 1+ Full Buffet or 1+ Composite. 
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« Reply #899 on: February 22, 2015, 19:49:06 »
Quote from: bignosemac on February 22, 2015, 19:44:17
That's temporary though, isn't it? All sets will ultimately have 1.5 1st Class Coaches. Either 1+ Full Buffet or 1+ Composite. 

Sorry should have said one was 40904 - a wendy house kitchen.
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