FGW take SWT 158 on hire from June 15th

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[tramway]

Voyager I can understand, HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) unforgivable.

[Rogang]

If I understand correctly, the 158 from SWT^▸ (South West Trains) will have a daily diagram that goes Salisbury(ECS^▸ (Empty Coaching Stock))-Westbury-Swindon-most of the day on Golden Valley route-Cheltenham-Bristol TM^▸ (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context) - return to Salisbury coupled to SWT Waterloo service.

[cereal_basher]

I also heard it will spend most of the day on the Golden Valley route, not sure about the rest of the day.

[Timmer]

Would a possible reason be that because SWT^▸ (South West Trains) 158s have 1st class this could be used by any 1st class passengers coming off a London train heading to Gloucester/Cheltenham?

[cereal_basher]

The First Class will have to declassified unless they advertise the service as having First Class in the timetable which I doubt they will do.

[Rogang]

From my information, the diagram is partly governed by the requirement to return to Salisbury each night. The Golden Valley diagram was the best suited. Using the set on the morning peak Melksham Flyer (2M10) releases an FGW^▸ (First Great Western) 2-car to Bristol area where it is more needed.
Regarding 1st class on the Golden Valley, it is already a mix of 150/153/158 units - often with a 1st class section.

[John R]

Regarding 1st class on the Golden Valley, it is already a mix of 150/153/158 units - often with a 1st class section.

Really? I've obviously missed that part of the refurb.

[ReWind]

No FGW^▸ (First Great Western) West units have first class

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hold on i just realised something i thought only the 159's had first class not the 158's

[paul7575]

hold on i just realised something i thought only the 159's had first class not the 158's

No, SWT^▸ (South West Trains) 158s definitely have first class as well. You definitely don't see many people using it on the Salisbury - Romsey service, or the various other Hampshire locals, but it is never declassified because there are FC^▸ (First Class, or Fat Controller, or Football Club, depending on context) fares available in the area.

Paul

[Super Guard]

ok break down of refurb

the 142's actually have these been refurbed.... moving on
the 143's look good seats are comfortable too early to see of the quality will last end of the day you can put a turbo in a nova,,, its still not a merc
the 150's looked great when done but are already ageing is this build quality or amount of use... most fgw services are packed i gotta be honest cleaning doesnt seem to be a priority maybee thats it
the hst's apart from the seating arrangement and lighting there ok look good, astetic point the powercar should have the dynamic lines livey not just blue but they still look good shame the seats are uncomfortable
158 cant comment from what i have seen externally they already look tired
best refurb is the 153's! only let down by uncomfortable seats

I believe there was a set that had dynamic lines on the power cars but I think they kept peeling off because of the engines or something...

[devon_metro]

The vinyls were getting trashed in the carriage washers.

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The vinyls were getting trashed in the carriage washers.

hull trains have done there class 180's they look smart

[inspector_blakey]

...if we're talking about 43 004 and 43 009 as the prototype MTU^▸ (Motor Traction Unit) refurbishments, the other problem was they they were, quite frankly, bleedin' ugly with a hideous colour gradient up the side. The current power car livery started off as a temporary measure but then various people decided to agree with me by noticing that it looks really rather good (including, I have heard tell, that incorrigible HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) fan Alison "I want one in my back garden"* Forster), and I still think that the current livery of the dynamic lines on the deep blue ground looks fab.

*this is absolutely true. I heard it on Radio 4, you know.

[The SprinterMeister]

As opposed to the 150 this morning with the heating on full blast. 

Unfortunately refurbishment has removed the three 'heat fan' circuit breakers in a cupboard on the inner end on the 150 which could be used to shut down / disable the box heater fans if the thermostats played up. They can be shut off using the circuit breakers in the cab however in an 'thermostat failure' situation, although it is frowned on officially.