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Author Topic: British Airways Christmas strike set to disrupt 1 million people - Guardian  (Read 7751 times)
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« on: December 14, 2009, 14:49:09 »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/dec/14/british-airways-christmas-strike

@rse.

All happy hints on how to get something out of the airline so that I don't have to spend mega-bucks (well, kilo-bucks anyway) on an alternative ticket gratefully received...
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2009, 14:52:22 »

Cue Virgin/AmericanA/etc all raising their fares!!
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2009, 14:53:35 »

I really feel for you blakey. Sad You were in my thoughts as I was about to post a similar link to the breaking news, but you beat me to it.

Where and when are you flying from?
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2009, 14:57:31 »

Quite some breakdown in industrial relations. An 80% turnout and a 92% vote in favour of action. Must be a record in the post Thatcher era?
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 15:00:16 »

Sounds odd - but try flying into one of the other UK (United Kingdom) airports?  Even if its from somewhere odd in the states e.g. Charlotte, NC to Gatwick is often really cheap in comparison - might keep the cost down.

Over the years I've discovered some really bizarre routes that cost a lot less when booking at last minute.

e.g. returning from Kansas in September on a Friday - cheapest route, i kid you not, was Kansas-Detroit-Miami-London
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2009, 15:22:47 »

Over the years I've discovered some really bizarre routes that cost a lot less when booking at last minute.

e.g. returning from Kansas in September on a Friday - cheapest route, i kid you not, was Kansas-Detroit-Miami-London

My idea of hell! And demonstrating that the airline industry has just the same silly fare anomalies as the national rail network.
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2009, 15:29:35 »

Phew!

Just spent 40 mins on the phone to BA» (British Airways - about)'s US office but the net result was that they've booked me onto the same flight I would have taken but two days earlier... Now to re-book my train ticket from Heathrow!
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2009, 15:39:02 »

Phew!

Just spent 40 mins on the phone to BA» (British Airways - about)'s US office but the net result was that they've booked me onto the same flight I would have taken but two days earlier... Now to re-book my train ticket from Heathrow!

This could be the hard part!
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2009, 18:30:54 »

A quick question about industrial relations law...!

My rescheduled flight departs on 21 Dec, but actually arrives in the UK (United Kingdom) on 22 Dec. Given that the strike is due to start on 22 Dec, could the striking cabin crew legitimately refuse to work it, or do strikes like this start on a "rolling" basis determined by the booking-on time of the shift? And would that booking on time have to be UK or US time?!
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2009, 18:35:08 »

I'm pleased to say I don't give one.

I've managed to stay off aeroplanes for over 40 years now.  Last trip on a Cambrian Airways Viscount in January 1969. 

That's my contribution to green stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2009, 18:46:43 »

A quick question about industrial relations law...!

My rescheduled flight departs on 21 Dec, but actually arrives in the UK (United Kingdom) on 22 Dec. Given that the strike is due to start on 22 Dec, could the striking cabin crew legitimately refuse to work it, or do strikes like this start on a "rolling" basis determined by the booking-on time of the shift? And would that booking on time have to be UK or US time?!

I guess they probably could but unless they are American if they dont work it, I suspect they will be spending Christmas in the states........can't see BA» (British Airways - about) offering to fly them home with another airline.

Therefore I suspect on the grounds of common sense, they will work it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2009, 18:48:26 »

I'm pleased to say I don't give one.

I've managed to stay off aeroplanes for over 40 years now.  Last trip on a Cambrian Airways Viscount in January 1969. 

That's my contribution to green stuff.

Thank you so much for your helpful contribution, welshman.

I guess they probably could but unless they are American if they dont work it, I suspect they will be spending Christmas in the states........can't see BA» (British Airways - about) offering to fly them home with another airline.

Therefore I suspect on the grounds of common sense, they will work it.

That was what I was guessing - it's just that BA are saying you can rebook any flight that is 48 hours either side of the strike dates, which makes me wonder if said crew might refuse to leave the UK (United Kingdom) in the first place (don't think BA have any American flight crew, only ground staff)...
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 18:49:47 »

Phew!

Just spent 40 mins on the phone to BA» (British Airways - about)'s US office but the net result was that they've booked me onto the same flight I would have taken but two days earlier... Now to re-book my train ticket from Heathrow!

You done well ... they cancelled a flight on me in the lead up to Christmas a few years back (and it was a last minute cancellation - I actually got to Heathrow) ... and offered me the same flight two weeks later.   As a result, they remain my least favourite airline to this day.   Apparently, the reason for the cancellation was weather / incoming flight diverted and plane not at Heathrow, so they weren't liable and asked me what I expected on a cheap ticket.   What is their liability if the staff go on strike, considering that they must be responsible for one side of the dispute?

Good on you, Inspector_Blakey, for getting a fix which - I presume - works for you.   Advise to other who find themselves stuck - see if you can find an alternative airline and get BA to sign the tickets over.  That's what we did those years back ... we were only a day late with AA to LA but it didn't alf take a lot of assle.
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2009, 18:51:21 »

Thanks - still not 100% convinced I'm out of the woods yet, but it's looking a lot more promising than it did this morning!
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2009, 18:58:53 »

A quick question about industrial relations law...!

My rescheduled flight departs on 21 Dec, but actually arrives in the UK (United Kingdom) on 22 Dec. Given that the strike is due to start on 22 Dec, could the striking cabin crew legitimately refuse to work it, or do strikes like this start on a "rolling" basis determined by the booking-on time of the shift? And would that booking on time have to be UK or US time?!

Maybe the cabin crew will withdraw their labour at 00:00 regardless of where the planes are. Could be problematic if you ordered a G&T at 23:59....... Wink Cheesy
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