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« on: March 14, 2010, 20:28:26 »

Wasn't too sure about the forum to post this in - I decided on Lighter Side as it is picking on the NR» (Network Rail - home page) website,

As well as missing prices and restrictions off rover ticket pages, among other problems, the new station maps on the National Rail website are a little incorrect.

At Bristol Temple Meads: (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains)/plan.html" target="_blank">http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/BRI/plan.html
The whole ticket hall is the wrong way round!   The ticket barriers are in the correct place, but the ticket windows are at 90 degrees to the barriers.  The whole ticket hall on the diagram needs to be rotated 90 degree to the left.

Then: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/RDA/plan.html
"The Help Point is blue".  No it isn't.  It was white but isn't there anymore.

Then at Cosham: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/CSA/plan.html
"Platform 2 Stair Entrance" is shown as an entrance/exit from the station.  If you try and exit here, you'll end up on the tracks on the level crossing.  Is this a new way of accessing station platforms?
"There are no train announcements".  Yes there are.

And at Clifton Down: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/CFN/plan.html
"Residential Housing".  When did Sainsbury's become residential housing?
"Roo Bar".  When did Roo Bar become part of the station?

Fareham: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/FRM/plan.html
Shows Platform 2 as being a through platform.  It is in fact a bay platform.

I could probably pick on nearly every station in some way. Grin
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2010, 20:40:40 »

BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) is a problem because it's a curved station and the schematic plans can't show that.  If you rotated the ticket hall then the short stay car park could run left to right, which is incorrect in relation to the south end of the platforms.  The long stay car park would end up in the wrong place too.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 20:51:04 »

There's similar gibberish about Nailsea and Backwell, though: suggesting there is a ticket machine on the footpath under platform 1 (there isn't) and that the TVMs (Ticket Vending Machine) at NLS cannot offer collection of pre-paid tickets (they can).

Rather more seriously, it suggests wheelchair users can access platform 1 'unaided': no they bluddy well can't - due to two flights of very steep steps and no ramp!  Angry
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2010, 20:54:20 »

Note the wording is "wheelchair users can use the ENTRANCE unaided", not reach the platform!
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2010, 20:57:16 »

Has anyone else noticed a problem with the Live Departures Boards?

Since last Wednesday I've been getting runtime error if I click on any train which isn't starting from the station I'm looking at.

For example: http://www.livedepartureboards.co.uk/fgw/summary.aspx?T=BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains), if I click on any train that starts from Temple Meads the link works, but any service terminating or passing through doesn't.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2010, 21:06:55 »

Note the wording is "wheelchair users can use the ENTRANCE unaided", not reach the platform!

I do note the point, plymothian.  However, while the description of the ramp up to platform 2 at NLS (Nailsea & Backwell station) is quite specific as to the rather steep gradient, 'which may cause problems to a wheelchair user' - there is no warning that there is no ramp access at all to platform 1.

So, wheelchair users can (probably, with a good run-up) get up to platform 2, and travel on eastbound trains - provided they don't intend returning to NLS on westbound trains stopping at platform 1.  Roll Eyes


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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 22:09:59 »

Another cse of lack of "Attention to Detail"

The trouble is we've all collectively stopped thinking.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2010, 00:30:30 »

Has anyone else noticed a problem with the Live Departures Boards?

Since last Wednesday I've been getting runtime error if I click on any train which isn't starting from the station I'm looking at.

For example: http://www.livedepartureboards.co.uk/fgw/summary.aspx?T=BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains), if I click on any train that starts from Temple Meads the link works, but any service terminating or passing through doesn't.

Yes ... noted that.  Hadn't realised it was rather longer than a temporary glitch ... wonder how long it will take to fix.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 03:58:15 »

Spot the mistake in this plan of Yeovil Pen Mill from NRE (National Rail Enquiries)'s Stations Made Easy.....

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 05:59:20 »

two lines going through under the bridge where there is only one in reality.
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2010, 08:52:23 »

I think there is at least one error for every station: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6410.0
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2010, 09:59:06 »

It's really rather worrying that National Rail Enquiries does not know the track layout of Yeovil Pen Mill Station.

It makes you wonder about validity of all all the other info they have.

Once again it's the boring old problem of "Attention to Detail"
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 16:19:20 »

As both of these topics were already on 'the lighter side' board, I've now merged them - purely for continuity.

C.  Wink
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2010, 19:15:32 »

Those NR» (Network Rail - home page) station plans are like something from another age - the graphics from those rubbishy magazine type-in computer games in the early 80s.
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2010, 09:14:37 »

If you click on the details for Maidenhead station there is a picture which says it is "Station Approach, Maidenhead".. but it isn't.. I thought it might be Windsor and Eton central first time I saw it but I don't think it is.. Does anyone recognise it?
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