Cardiff To Bristol

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[basset44]

Hi All,

I think I done my research but could you please help with the following, thinking of taking my young Nephew tommorrow through the Tunnel on a HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)).

1 If i buy a anytime return to Bristol will I be able to go Cardiif to BPW^» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) then BTM^▸ (Bristol Temple Meads (strictly, it should be BRI) but BTM is a commonly used alternative)) and back to Cardiff?

2 Does the Loco Hauled train stil run and if so what time from BTM to Cardiff on Saturdays

Thanks

Basset

[ReWind]

In response to your ticketing issue, an Anytime return is valid via Bristol Parkway.

[inspector_blakey]

But I have a feeling that the loco-hauled service does not operate on weekends. I'm sure someone else here can confirm or correct that.

[ReWind]

Hi All,

I think I done my research but could you please help with the following, thinking of taking my young Nephew tommorrow through the Tunnel on a HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)).

1 If i buy a anytime return to Bristol will I be able to go Cardiif to BPW^» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) then BTM^▸ (Bristol Temple Meads (strictly, it should be BRI) but BTM is a commonly used alternative)) and back to Cardiff?

2 Does the Loco Hauled train stil run and if so what time from BTM to Cardiff on Saturdays

Thanks

Basset

Personaly, along with Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool, Reading and other major cities, I believe there should be a "Bristol Stations" option on tickets, to allow you to travel to any Bristol station and back to another.

[devon_metro]

I'm not sure if you are intentionally buying an Anytime return, but wouldn't an Off Peak Day be cheaper?

[basset44]

Hi All,

Thanks no have looked on FGW^▸ (First Great Western) web site and entered Cardiff to Bristol one adult and one child and you are right a Off peak day return is great value at 8.00 with railcard so i am righ tin thinking i could catch the 11.25 to BPW^» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) and the 12.12 to BTM^▸ (Bristol Temple Meads (strictly, it should be BRI) but BTM is a commonly used alternative)), have a bitof lunch before heading back BTM to Cardiff.

Basset

[JayMac]

Yes, you can go CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains) to BRI^» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) (it's not BTM^▸ (Bristol Temple Meads (strictly, it should be BRI) but BTM is a commonly used alternative)) - at least not according to the railway!) via BPW^» (Bristol Parkway - next trains), for the same fare as a direct service. And as Devon_Metro says, it's a Saturday so an Off Peak Day Return is valid at all times.

When planning your journey, just use the 'travel via' option on the journey planners.

Although there isn't a 'Bristol Stations' ticket it is perfectly allowable to travel from Cardiff to Temple Meads via BPW.

Indeed for the same fare you could even travel on the Newport to Gloucester line via Severn Tunnel Junction and Gloucester/Cheltenham if you have a fear of long tunnels!

[inspector_blakey]

Is that really a permitted route?! I could believe it when the tunnel is shut, but under normal circumstances...?!

[devon_metro]

Indeed for the same fare you could even travel on the Newport to Gloucester line via Severn Tunnel Junction and Gloucester/Cheltenham if you have a fear of long tunnels!

Debateable.

[JayMac]

Just checked it with a journey planner and you're right, no longer available through to Gloucester. But use a Mixing Desk JP and put Chepstow in as a 'via' station and it gives you times to Chepstow and doubling back to Severn Tunnel Junction for the same fare as direct, something that shouldn't be allowed according to the Routeing Guide.

The Routeing Guide rules appear to allow CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains)-BRI^» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) via GCR^» (Gloucester - next trains)/CNM^» (Cheltenham Spa - next trains) as the routeing points are one one map and a permitted route is one that can be traced from origin to destination without passing through any station twice.

[John R]

The loco hauled sets don't run on a saturday by the way, except for an ECS^▸ (Empty Coaching Stock) working from Bishops Lydeard to Canton on Saturday afternoon.

[Brucey]

Thanks no have looked on FGW^▸ (First Great Western) web site and entered Cardiff to Bristol one adult and one child and you are right a Off peak day return is great value at 8.00 with railcard so i am righ tin thinking i could catch the 11.25 to BPW^» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) and the 12.12 to BTM^▸ (Bristol Temple Meads (strictly, it should be BRI) but BTM is a commonly used alternative)), have a bitof lunch before heading back BTM to Cardiff.

Yes, you can as a break of journey is permitted on that ticket.

Ticket Name:      Off-Peak Day
 Code  -           CDR^▸ (Off Peak Day Return [ticket type] (formerly 'Cheap Day'))/1DR/1DT
 Class -              STANDARD
 Single/Return -        RETURN
Outward Validity:             
 Day  -         DATE ON TICKET
                  (SEE NOTE 1)
 Time -              SEE BELOW
Return Validity:             
 Day  -         DATE ON TICKET
 Time -              SEE BELOW
Break of Journey:             
 Out/Rtn -                 YES
Pre-Booking Req:          NONE
Reservations Compulsory:    NO
Discounts:                   
 Child    -                YES
 Railcard -                YES
 Group    -                YES
Refunds: See 'Refunds' section