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Author Topic: First Great Western to Give up Franchise?  (Read 51433 times)
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« Reply #105 on: May 13, 2011, 10:21:12 »

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« Reply #106 on: May 13, 2011, 11:25:31 »

The money side of the current franchise is probably the main driver behind First Groups decision.  The fact that the London end of the franchise will change shape and all the work during the next franchise could have also been an influence, if First had paid the money over to DfT» (Department for Transport - about) First could see trying to recover this, if they won the next franchise, as being difficult especially as train performance will be challenging during all the GWML (Great Western Main Line) route mods.

One thing is certain DfT have got there work cutout to get a franchise set up with all the changes happening on the GWML routes during the rest of this decade, this could be an early example of taking NR» (Network Rail - home page) to bits roll the route upgrade, Ops and train service into one, that will be interesting this it could mean companies like Balfour Betty, Carillion, Babcock's may enter the market having a Hornby train set view on the actual operating of the trains the engineering being seen as the money earner hence more important
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« Reply #107 on: May 13, 2011, 11:33:57 »

I could just imagine... Arriva Great Western... Shocked Roll Eyes Lips sealed
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« Reply #108 on: May 13, 2011, 13:07:17 »

How about DBGW ............. the Western did build and operate what were basically German locomotives in the late 50's through to the 70's
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« Reply #109 on: May 13, 2011, 21:09:21 »

I could just imagine... Arriva Great Western... Shocked Roll Eyes Lips sealed

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« Reply #110 on: May 13, 2011, 21:43:00 »

Agree wholeheartedly there. Anyone but.....
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« Reply #111 on: May 13, 2011, 21:48:04 »

I doubt they would call it Arriva thoguh in the same way they haven't called XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) Arriva.  Regardless of the HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) I still expect First to be in pole position having held the franchise for two rounds, all they have to do is put in a very large bid to be almsot certain of winning.  It worked last time.
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« Reply #112 on: May 13, 2011, 21:59:05 »

Well, I'm going to pop my head up over the parapet here, and say that I would support any bid by FGW (First Great Western).

I think it's interesting to note that any news reports trying to find a 'negative' message seem to have to go back to the 'fare strikes' of 2008 - since then, generally, FGW have gradually but steadily improved, and they haven't lost any significant ground.

As I say in my avatar - generally, I quite like FGW, these days - and they have some excellent staff, much improved systems, and a new customer focus that just wasn't there in the past.

That doesn't mean they're perfect - but I do wish them well.

(Usual disclaimer: No, I am not FGW staff ... Roll Eyes )

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« Reply #113 on: May 13, 2011, 22:05:32 »

i agree, staff are always friendly, ive never been on a train with major delays... while i have had problems with cancelations at digby and sowton in the past (no information provided and you would think that the rail replacement bus would make its presence known!!) , something which is being addressed with new equipment..... given the constrains of the franchise i think they do a great job!
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« Reply #114 on: May 13, 2011, 22:13:43 »

Yup, that's a 'me too' from me - they talk to customers ata high level. And Arriva don't....
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« Reply #115 on: May 13, 2011, 22:31:42 »

I'm a little ambivalent. But that may be clouded by recent experiences.

So, maybe time for a change. New blood, new thinking....
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« Reply #116 on: May 13, 2011, 22:34:06 »

Yup, that's a 'me too' from me - they talk to customers ata high level. And Arriva don't....
Indeed, the buffets were saved.  That's more than Arriva and Stagecoach did.
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« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2011, 22:54:15 »

I also hope that First retain the franchise- for the simple reason that any new franchise holder will squander our money repainting the trains again.
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« Reply #118 on: May 13, 2011, 22:57:34 »

unless bars bid for it  Grin
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« Reply #119 on: May 13, 2011, 23:39:30 »

I also hope that First retain the franchise- for the simple reason that any new franchise holder will squander our money repainting the trains again.
There may well be a new livery in 2016 for the IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) introduction.
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