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« on: May 19, 2011, 12:02:09 »

To view Sir Roy McNulty's Value for Money Study in full, visit:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.10401
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2011, 13:03:51 »

....is now available on line for perusal at your lesiure.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/strategyfinance/valueformoney/realising-the-potential-of-gb-rail/
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 13:09:13 »

This has already been posted at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=8936.msg91113
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 13:39:25 »

Thanks, everyone!  In the interests of simplicity, I've merged those topics here.  CfN.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 13:39:49 »

Don't seen to be able to open the full report with Adobe Reader X - anyone knowhow many pages?

The summary report is 77 pages....
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 13:52:01 »

320 pages.

Found this section on page 208

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Driver Only Operation (DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard))) is a safe method of operation and improves performance, with fewer human interactions involved in the door opening, door closing and dispatch procedure. The financial imperatives facing the industry, the need to change radically the cost structure of the industry, and the availability of new communications technology has led the Study to recommend that the default position for all services on the GB (Great Britain) rail network should be DOO with a second member of train crew only being provided where there is a commercial, technical or other imperative. The Study recommends early implementation of DOO where practicable. Further implementation can take place when stations or rolling stock have been provided with the necessary equipment.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 13:53:31 »

Yes, that wasa leaked & mentioned in the press yesterday.

Cue Bob Crow then....
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2011, 13:59:21 »

As a passenger I am uncomfortable with DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)).

While the station despatch might be possible with assistance from platform staff. The on board journey has to suffer. A train manager doesn't just work the doors and check tickets. He/she is an accessible point of contact between stations.
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 14:04:57 »

I suspect this relates to those trains with automatic doors.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2011, 14:06:26 »

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2011, 14:11:02 »

On FGW (First Great Western), yes....but auto doors on SWT (South West Trains) means DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) to Exeter.
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2011, 14:14:31 »

What about XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))?
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2011, 14:15:46 »

What about XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))?
The driver closes the doors on Voyagers in any case so CD (Capital Delivery) and RA indicators could be provided at stations for this.

Also once the IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) is introduced, will there still be guards?  If the HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) are to remain in service beyond 2020 then they will need to have disabled access and so if automatic doors are installed would you still need a guard?  You would need to have a member of staff on board I would think as there is no direct access to the passengers from the power car but would this member of staff have to be a guard?
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2011, 14:18:45 »

What about XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))?
The driver closes the doors on Voyagers in any case so CD (Capital Delivery) and RA indicators could be provided at stations for this.
Also once IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) is introduced, will there still be guards?  If the HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) are to remain in service beyond 2020 then they will need to have disabled access and so if automatic doors are installed would you still need a guard?  You would need to have a member of staff on board I would think as there is no direct access to the passengers from the power car but would this member of staff have to be a guard?
Well the javelins dont have guards so could be possible.
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2011, 14:19:57 »

Well the javelins dont have guards so could be possible.
But they are EMUs (Electric Multiple Unit) and so the driver has direct access to the passengers or is this not the case with the 395s?
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