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« on: August 01, 2011, 17:03:11 »
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Line problem between Westbury and Bath Spa.
    Train services are being disrupted due to a broken down train between Westbury and Bath Spa.Short notice cancellations and delays of up to 60 minutes can be expected.
    First Great Western tickets are being accepted by South West Trains via any reasonable route and Southern Railway between Portsmouth & Southsea and Brighton.
    Last Updated: 01/08/2011 16:17

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Line problem between Westbury and Castle Cary.
    Train services are being disrupted due to a broken down train between Westbury and Castle Cary.Delays of up to 20 minutes can be expected.
    Last Updated: 01/08/2011 15:46
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 17:29:36 »
Hey, at least we're not trying to get south of East Croydon where a burst water main has created a bank landslip - nowt likely to move for at least 24 hours!
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 18:29:08 »
Does anybody now what failed ?    Presumably not DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) as these can be rescued quickly by another Unit.  Suggest freight or HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)).
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 19:57:46 »
Quote from: ChrisB on August 01, 2011, 17:29:36
Hey, at least we're not trying to get south of East Croydon where a burst water main has created a bank landslip - nowt likely to move for at least 24 hours!

They have the fast lines back now. Those on the left here:  http://www.southernrailway.com/uploads/images/large/1705.JPG

Must have caused massive crowding on FGW▸ (First Great Western)'s North Downs route for a while, SWT▸ (South West Trains) Waterloo/Clapham Jn to Guildford then FGW to Gatwick was being advised for airport passengers earlier apparently..

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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 20:28:04 »
Getting back to Westbury - seems the problems will also affect tonight's westbound sleeper. 

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23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:53
This train will be delayed and is expected to be 60 minutes late from London Paddington.This is due to an earlier broken down train.
Customers will be able to board the train at London Paddington from 22:30 as advertised but the departure will be subject to delay.
Last Updated: 01/08/2011 20:06
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 21:31:53 »
Its got so much layover / slack in the timings that it ought not to be late west of Plymouth
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 21:58:27 »
To be honest I've known "day" trains leave Reading 45 mins down and still arrive in Penzance on time!

Delay on the sleeper now 90 mins.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 22:17:51 »
It might almost go via Bristol TM▸ (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context) now, leaving on time, surely?
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 22:20:02 »
Is it possible they're trying desperately to fix a 57 at Old Oak Common?

Heard rumour that last night's Down Sleeper failed at Swindon. The Up Sleeper rescued it, becoming the Down. Pax for the Down were transferred and pax▸ (passengers) from the Up were put onto a HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) from Swindon to Paddington.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 22:27:05 »
Quote from: ChrisB on August 01, 2011, 22:17:51
It might almost go via Bristol TM▸ (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context) now, leaving on time, surely?


Doubt it. There's engineering work between Swindon and Bath tonight.
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 22:27:34 »
Quote from: bignosemac on August 01, 2011, 22:20:02
Is it possible they're trying desperately to fix a 57 at Old Oak Common?

Heard rumour that last night's Down Sleeper failed at Swindon. The Up Sleeper rescued it, becoming the Down. Pax for the Down were transferred and pax▸ (passengers) from the Up were put onto a HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) from Swindon to Paddington.

a good theory here! but this would not of caused problems at westbury earlier?
is there any sites online we can refer to, to see past departure and arrivals, and look to see arrival time into say taunton or plymouth
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 22:29:51 »
If they are they must be pretty confident of fixing it if they are allowing people to board.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 22:31:43 »
LDB is just saying 'Delayed' for all stops on the Down Sleeper.

Could it be that the 'broken down train' at Westbury was a Class 57 and after being fixed it is still making it's way to Paddington? Perhaps after last night's failure the loco was moved to Westbury and failed again before being recently fixed. Just a thought.....
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2011, 22:32:46 »
Quote from: ChrisB on August 01, 2011, 17:29:36
Hey, at least we're not trying to get south of East Croydon where a burst water main has created a bank landslip - nowt likely to move for at least 24 hours!

I was supposed to be in Manchester by now!  I'm still in London!  Took me four hours to get to Waterloo from grotwick
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2011, 22:36:53 »
Quote from: bignosemac on August 01, 2011, 22:31:43
LDB is just saying 'Delayed' for all stops on the Down Sleeper.

Could it be that the 'broken down train' at Westbury was a Class 57 and after being fixed it is still making it's way to Paddington? Perhaps after last night's failure the loco was moved to Westbury and failed again before being recently fixed. Just a thought.....

Now that makes sense as there are no late running incoming passenger services which could account for the delay if crew were coming off them.
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