What will your travel patterns look like in a month, a year, and a decade?

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Topic: Coffee Shop - future travel pattern discussion
Time: May 19, 2020 04:00 PM London

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Tuesday Club - 26th May 2020 - what benefits can we gain from - can the new order be improved in some ways on what we had?

Coffee Shop Zoom meeting - link to follow at the weekend

All Coffee Shop members welcome

It says I need you to let me in...

I seemed to have missed most of the 'second half' as I took 17h00 as being gospel.
Apologies 

My daughter has worked out how to join the meetings for me without having to give permission to ZOOM to access all my personal details, so I will hopefully join you next week.

At about 16.30 the meeting was abruptly halted. Zoom has recently allowed sessions to go beyond the 40-minute limit it applies to 'free' users, but on this occasion it closed the meeting. This may have been due to the number of attendees, or possibly a change in policy.

They seem to give new users some free extensions but only the first few.

Sorry to be a pooper, but surely for 16 or so people, a thread on here would capture more quickly what those 16 (one at a time) might likely impart in any meeting?

My point being...everyone can partake in a thread, so why not just use zoom for socials? There are a couple of points I'd make, but frankly, can't be ar*sed to create a new thread, copying across enough for context, where I could easily be the only one to comment above those present at the meeting.

Thankfully, it doesn't seem that the conversation got very far this time....

Bah, humbug! Don't be such a spoilsport, Zoom is fun! (…….next you'll be asking Oooooooooooooooo's gonna pay for it?) 

Why is this report in "Frequent Posters Club", when the meeting itself wasn't similarly restricted?

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I will move this thread to Member Services in 24 hours - that gives anyone who's contributed an opportunity to ask for it not to moved the less restrictive board - I don't see any comment that people would want to keep private in the thread, but I have to ask.

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Topic: Coffee Shop - Tuesday Club
Brief talk and discussion - what can we regain from the restart of public transport (but how low do we start!)?
Time: May 26, 2020 04:00 PM London

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Apologies for absence in the weekly chat room. Various excuses!

I'll join if I can... once again I've been nagged into going mountain biking with my daughter. At my age - honestly...

There's a very good signal at the top of the Ashton Court Alps - but I think my daughter might have got a bit antsy if I'd stopped for an hour to join a Zoom meeting!

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Topic: Coffee Shop / Tuesday Club
Time: Jul 14, 2020 04:00 PM London

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A really useful informal chat between posting members.  Delighted for any newcomers who post on the forum but have not been long to the club before to join us - you will be very welcome indeed.

"Where Now" as we stand at a crossroads ... or come to a fork in the road.

An image from an excellent online presentation (I'll be posting further links) by Roger French in the London Transport Museum "Friends at Home" series ... as he looks at where we were before Coronavirus, how public transport has handled the crisis, and where it goes now.

So we have free car parking in most counties in the South West... and now we have £10 off a meal Monday to Wednesday in August for the hospitality sector...

So how about a little sweetner for public transport sector?

How about a £10 voucher to use on buses, trains, trams, ferries? 

Public transport is subject to the same social distance (and available seating) guidelines as restaurants.... Plus lets face it public transport is still hardly being used...in alot of areas?

Should this be done as part of any future "Catch The Bus Week"?

The DfT does not yet want promotion of trains, which they are funding ... and I suspect the view on buses which are also being funded is the same. "Further to this key change to switch to the ‘safer travel’ message I have been asked to clarify that we can’t yet start promoting travel by [train] ...."

Sad. Feeling that our stable door might be opened once the other riders are just specs on the horizon and there will be a big catch up job. Various operators (local to me / not Somerset) have expressed a frustration at the lack of encouragement to fill spaces they are carrying around.

I don't know how much of a factor it is for any other members but at 4PM on a Tuesday I've still got a couple more hours work ahead of me.

Even if I could make it I very much doubt I'd say anything but if you're encouraging people to 'drop by' a bit later in the day might be more suitable? Outside the working day? Although I haven't been following how the times were arrived at so if this has already been discussed please ignore me 

Here are some Coffee Shop visitor patterns - "when are we busiest?" so "what is the best time?" thoughts

Visitor patterns being viewers and posters, or just posters?

Views by "real" people (members and guests) viewing pages rather than robots.  I'm not sure how much the shape of the curves would vary for posts, though it would be much more spikey and need sampling over multiple weeks.

Topic: Coffee Shop / Tuesday Club
Time: Aug 18, 2020 04:00 PM London

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Topic: Coffee Shop / Tuesday Club
Time: Sep 1, 2020 16:00 UK Summer time

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Time: Sep 8, 2020 04:00 PM London

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Some might disagree, but i've never considered myself to be a "protester". I am a campaigner - Always have been, always will be, and that doesnt preclude me from being a partner at the same time, as we have both proved over the years.

P/w doesn't work.

OTC

Clicked on the link and it worked.

I suspect installed Zoom wouldn't forget Mrs OTC's previous WI Zoom meeting and so rejected passcode.

Computers!

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Thread title may need updating...

For 2021, our online "Tuesday Club" will be running on the second Tuesday of each month ... an informal fireside chat of perhaps an hour in length on ongoing Coffee Shop, Travel and other topics.

Topic: Coffee Shop / Tuesday Club
Time: Feb 9, 2021 04:00 PM London

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Get used to fewer trains, says rail body

Around 10% fewer train services should run once the country opens up again, compared to the pre-pandemic timetable, according to the chair of Network Rail.

The old pattern of five days of peak commuter travel may not return, Sir Peter Hendy warned the the National Rail Recovery conference.

Instead, leisure travel might boost weekend traffic, especially if limits on international travel continue.

Commuter traffic could return to 80% of pre-pandemic levels, he suggested.

"The service doesn't run better if you put too many trains on the track. We've proved that," said Sir Peter.

"You shouldn't try to get more out of the infrastructure than it can give you. All of my experience is that people prefer reliability to journey time."

Passenger numbers fell precipitously in March when the pandemic struck and have only partially recovered since. Many commuters are working from home and some businesses remain closed.

The government's timetable foresees a gradual opening up of the economy over the coming months. However some firms have already signalled some workers may continue to work from home for some of their working week.

Sir Peter said commuter traffic on the railways could remain at around 80% for the next one to three years, although he said that Network Rail, which manages the UK's rail infrastructure, were also looking at a range of possibilities between 60% and100%.

He warned that the working week could change so dramatically that commuter routes may only see one peak day a week and that ticketing options should be looked at to even out the service.

Leisure visits to family or for recreation could boost passenger numbers on summer weekends, he suggested.

"I used to watch the trains to the Cornish Riviera from Paddington and it was packed and we might need to get used to that again.' he told the conference.

"If Saturday and Sunday get busy in the summer we need to do engineering work at other times."

Rail minister, Chris Heaton-Harris, also acknowledged that commuting was not going to return to previous levels quickly.

"We are not going back to before - this is the new normal. We now need to fundamentally change," he said. Without a concerted cross-industry effort passengers might not return, he added.

In December the government said that it was "committed to providing a more flexible, modern ticketing system for passengers" and asked rail operators to develop flexible season tickets.

When many commuters travelled to work four or five days a week, a season ticket provided value for money. Part-time commuters currently face a much higher price per journey.

The Department for Transport expects "FlexiSeason" tickets to be introduced across England later this year, which could save communters "hundreds of pounds".

Mr Heaton-Harris said during the pandemic that passenger numbers fell to levels "not seen since the 19th Century" but everyone would work hard to restore business, and ensure a safe and clean network. He said this would require a "coherent approach, [where] innovation is needed more than ever".

Keith Williams, whose much anticipated rail review is expected to be published soon, described the pandemic as a 'Black Swan' event for the rail industry. The review had been due for release shortly before the pandemic began and has now been updated.