| 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 07:30, 1st January 2023 |     |
1st January 2023 ... Cancellations:
10:44 Westbury to Swindon due 11:28
11:41 Swindon to Westbury due 12:21
14:21 Frome to Swindon due 15:23
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38
16:43 Frome to Swindon due 17:34
17:44 Swindon to Salisbury due 18:55
19:29 Swindon to Westbury due 20:11
20:26 Westbury to Swindon due 21:08
21:25 Swindon to Westbury due 22:06
21:25 Swindon to Westbury due 22:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Further Information
If you hold a valid single, return, or weekly ticket, you will be able to claim compensation for delays of 15 minutes or more. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Further Information
If you hold a valid single, return, or weekly ticket, you will be able to claim compensation for delays of 15 minutes or more. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Other Train Service Updates:
11:01 Weymouth to Swindon due 13:28
13:41 Swindon to Weymouth due 15:50
18:24 Frome to Swindon due 19:17
13:41 Swindon to Weymouth due 15:50 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Further Information
If you hold a valid single, return, or weekly ticket, you will be able to claim compensation for delays of 15 minutes or more. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:01/01/2023 00:47
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Further Information
If you hold a valid single, return, or weekly ticket, you will be able to claim compensation for delays of 15 minutes or more. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:01/01/2023 00:47
Real Time Trains shows 12 trains in the timetable (6 each way) on the Westbury to Swindon line, and the short term cancellations above list 12 trains - so that leaves the line (and Melksham, population 25,000) with no trains at all today.
No offer of alternative road transport.
"Via Melksham" tickets should be accepted / sold for travel via Bath Spa, since GWR are failing to provide the train service - a situation that has happened so often before that it's an official "thing" - though online ticket sales outlets have had difficulty with it.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 08:39, 1st January 2023 | |
We tend to get rather technical on the forum ... so here's a reminder from my feed (and I will put others up from time to time) that cancelled trains effect real people's daily lives. People will look for alternatives for a while, but there's a danger that they'll stick with the alternatives when they find them, or make radical changes that no longer involve using the train.
Massive favour, anyone can get me from melksham to chippenham train station after 4.30pm ( when i finish work)?
All train from Melksham have been cancelled but there's still some from Chippenham so ...
All train from Melksham have been cancelled but there's still some from Chippenham so ...
* No rail replacement buses are being provided by GWR
* The regular public bus service from Melksham to Chippenham does not run (any) regular Sunday, let alone New Year's Day
* Taxi availability here is patchy at the best of times ... and taxi drivers will have all been busy last night / early this morning and will be off duty this afternoon.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 06:11, 2nd January 2023 | |
05:17 Westbury to Swindon due 05:59
05:17 Westbury to Swindon due 05:59 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
05:17 Westbury to Swindon due 05:59 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Still awaiting our first train at Melksham this year, then. No alternatives (replacement services) offered by GWR, only a suggestion that you can claim through delay/repay.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 08:58, 2nd January 2023 | |
0910 to Westbury seems to (still) be running
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 09:13, 2nd January 2023 | |
0910 to Westbury seems to (still) be running
Yep - first northbound call of the year at 07:23 and first southbound call at about 09:10 (industry feed shows it a minute or so early).
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 06:30, 3rd January 2023 | |
From the "Tiger" feed linked from the top of forum pages
Departures from Melksham - Train info updated: 06:03
No GWR train services from this station today due to industrial action. Visit GWR.com\strike for more information & FAQs. Services will resume on Sunday 8 January, please check before you travel.
No GWR train services from this station today due to industrial action. Visit GWR.com\strike for more information & FAQs. Services will resume on Sunday 8 January, please check before you travel.
For all stations Swindon - Chippenham - Melksham - Trowbridge - Westbury, current boards:
The Melksham Departure Board's headline implies the following cancellations from the regular timetable:
3rd January 2023 - All 17 trains scheduled between Swindon and Westbury
4th January 2023 - All 17 trains scheduled between Swindon and Westbury
5th January 2023 - All 17 trains scheduled between Swindon and Westbury
6th January 2023 - All 17 trains scheduled between Swindon and Westbury
7th January 2023 - All 17 trains scheduled between Swindon and Westbury
There are 14 trains scheduled on 8th January 2023 (just checked / Real Time Trains)
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 10:43, 8th January 2023 | |
There are 14 trains scheduled on 8th January 2023 (just checked / Real Time Trains)
Yup - sorta back - First train called at 08:36 this morning - though only running as far as Chippenham, with an onward rail replacement road transport service to Swindon. Similar changes to all trains all day. Full line was served by most services on 2nd - other than that and today, nothing else so far this year. We hope full service resumes tomorrow and I will be making a positive post elsewhere to let people know.
Four people joined the train at Melksham - very slim number, but bearing in mind it was only going one stop, that the GWR advise is off-putting (see quoted text below), and the service has not run to timetable any day yet this year, remarkably good. No-one got off, and the train was too dirty to get a good idea of how many people were on board just passing through.
Car park empty, cafe closed, advert on gate for Santa on 10th December. Ticket machine out of order, poster threatening penalty fares if you don't buy before you board. Engineering posters and A to Z poster up to date (in line with theory). Strike timetable poster on its last day, with no indication of what happens after 8th January even in footnotes. Current printed timetables available in racks and CRP train timetable on platform up to date with current theory. Bicycle shelter acrylic roof has new holes in it - looks like it has been vandalised. Station basically clean / no rubbish issue.
Alterations to services on all routes
Due to industrial action:
Train services running across the whole Great Western Railway network will be revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 08/01/23.
Customer Advice
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Following industrial action which took place between 3-7 January, trains will continue to be disrupted on Sunday 8 January.
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There will be a reduced level of service throughout the day; a later start to services in the morning and some late-night services may be cancelled.
Due to industrial action:
Train services running across the whole Great Western Railway network will be revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 08/01/23.
Customer Advice
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Following industrial action which took place between 3-7 January, trains will continue to be disrupted on Sunday 8 January.
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There will be a reduced level of service throughout the day; a later start to services in the morning and some late-night services may be cancelled.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 12:11, 8th January 2023 | |
Was the Penalty Fares poster up to date with new Penalty though?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 12:30, 8th January 2023 | |
I "give up" ... (not really, if you are reading this, Mr GWR!)
14:20 Frome to Chippenham due 14:55
16:06 Chippenham to Frome due 16:48
16:06 Chippenham to Frome due 16:48 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
16:06 Chippenham to Frome due 16:48
16:06 Chippenham to Frome due 16:48 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 12:41, 8th January 2023 | |
Was the Penalty Fares poster up to date with new Penalty though?
Dunno - how am I supposed to tell?
Here is the notice - is it current??
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 14:11, 8th January 2023 | |
Was the Penalty Fares poster up to date with new Penalty though?
Dunno - how am I supposed to tell?
Here is the notice - is it current??
Reading back on other threads,, it goes up "in January" but I don't know what date in January. So I don't know if the poster is up to date or not.
It has / or will go up from £20 OR the "full" (anytime?) single to £100, reduced to £50 if paid promptly, PLUS the single
So - if anyone attempts to defraud Melksham to Trowbridge (surely not!), what does it mean?
* Full fare (06:36 train, Monday to Friday) - £5.20
* Off peak (any other train) - £4.90
* Penalty fare until January 2023 - £20.00
* Penalty fare after January 2023 (but before March 2023) if paid promptly - £55.20
* Penalty fare after January 2023 (but before March 2023) if not paid promptly - £105.20
If an under-16 is issued with a penalty fare notice, is it a half fare child's one?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 16:52, 9th January 2023 | |
16:25 Westbury to Swindon due 17:08
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20 will be cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20 will be cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by Phil at 17:03, 9th January 2023 | |
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20 will be cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.
They've had a week to inspect the track while there were no b****y trains running! Grrrrr
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 17:06, 9th January 2023 | |
Errrr….the inspection team were striking too
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 17:15, 9th January 2023 | |
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20 will be cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.
They've had a week to inspect the track while there were no b****y trains running! Grrrrr
Errrr….the inspection team were striking too
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham
Due to a safety inspection of the track between Swindon and Chippenham the line towards Chippenham is blocked. Disruption is expected until 17:30 09/01.
Train services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham may be cancelled or delayed by up to 30 minutes.
Customer Advice
Any customers travelling to / from Melksham this afternoon are advised to trigger one of the available help-points located on platform level for further assistance with your journey this afternoon. You can also contact one of our Social Media Specialists via Twitter handle @GWRhelp for further advice.
Replacement road transport services are conveying passengers from Melksham in both directions until further notice. Arrangements have been made for Great Western Railway rail tickets to be accepted for these journeys. We've requested some taxi's for any customers waiting at Melksham this afternoon. They haven't been confirmed yet but as soon as they are we shall advise accordingly.
Additional Information
Apologies to customers travelling between Swindon and Chippenham this afternoon. Following reports from a driver of a dip in the track in addition to a rough ride between Swindon and Chippenham, one of the lines have had to be closed by Network Rail as a safety precaution. This will cause delays and some diversions to services booked to run between these stations. Once Network Rail track staff have inspected the affected area of the track we will be able to provide further updates regarding the extent of the issue and time-scales.
We apologise for any inconvenience caused to your journey with us today.
Due to a safety inspection of the track between Swindon and Chippenham the line towards Chippenham is blocked. Disruption is expected until 17:30 09/01.
Train services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham may be cancelled or delayed by up to 30 minutes.
Customer Advice
Any customers travelling to / from Melksham this afternoon are advised to trigger one of the available help-points located on platform level for further assistance with your journey this afternoon. You can also contact one of our Social Media Specialists via Twitter handle @GWRhelp for further advice.
Replacement road transport services are conveying passengers from Melksham in both directions until further notice. Arrangements have been made for Great Western Railway rail tickets to be accepted for these journeys. We've requested some taxi's for any customers waiting at Melksham this afternoon. They haven't been confirmed yet but as soon as they are we shall advise accordingly.
Additional Information
Apologies to customers travelling between Swindon and Chippenham this afternoon. Following reports from a driver of a dip in the track in addition to a rough ride between Swindon and Chippenham, one of the lines have had to be closed by Network Rail as a safety precaution. This will cause delays and some diversions to services booked to run between these stations. Once Network Rail track staff have inspected the affected area of the track we will be able to provide further updates regarding the extent of the issue and time-scales.
We apologise for any inconvenience caused to your journey with us today.
On the positive side, the message is much improved over the standard one an it looks like replacements are being provided
Neutral - perhaps this can be more forgiven as it's not the usual "here we go again" message.
But negative - the 17:36 is the train that is supposed to run if at all possible and yet with a single line still open, someone still decided to can it or not even run it as far as Chippenham. Words are cheap ...
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 17:20, 9th January 2023 | |
The points at Thingley have failed. Trains are having to run on the Swindon bound line in both directions. That means there is no access to the single line and no capacity to turn a train at Chippenham.
The 15:14 from Swindon to Westbury is still sitting in the bay platform at Swindon.
They didn't do the safety inspection last week as the points hadn't failed at that point.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 17:22, 9th January 2023 | |
Just tweeted disruption till at least 1900
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 17:31, 9th January 2023 | |
Now able to use both lines but not the points at Thingley so the single line still closed.
There is also now a track defect reported at Dauntsey on the Swindon bound line. 20mph speed limit in place.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 17:39, 9th January 2023 | |
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be diverted between Gloucester and Trowbridge.
It will no longer call at Stonehouse, Stroud, Kemble, Swindon, Chippenham and Melksham but will call additionally at Bristol Parkway and Bath Spa.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.
It will no longer call at Stonehouse, Stroud, Kemble, Swindon, Chippenham and Melksham but will call additionally at Bristol Parkway and Bath Spa.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 18:13, 9th January 2023 | |
18:34 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
18:34 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
18:34 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 05:43, 10th January 2023 | |
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:05
Facilities on the 20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:05.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
Facilities on the 20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:05.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
Not a problem on a wet January Tuesday ... though it could be on a fine July Sunday.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 08:56, 10th January 2023 | |
The 20:06 doesn’t run on Sundays.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 09:17, 10th January 2023 | |
The 20:06 doesn’t run on Sundays. 
Yeah ... it used to be the 19:35 every day except Saturday; the Monday to Friday one got pushed back later but the Sunday one remains more or less unaltered. It provides an excellent return journey / connection from Weymouth and when promoting the service, we've had so many people at Westbury for it (when 2 carriages) that road transport had to be sourced to supplement the train.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 15:22, 10th January 2023 | |
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to congestion.
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to congestion.
16:25 Westbury to Swindon due 17:08
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
(I note that the 17:36 was re-instated yesterday. Don't know how many people made alternative arrangements and how many turned up at the stations to actually catch it)
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 16:16, 10th January 2023 | |
Some problem atr Bedwyn meaning West Country services going via the single line via Swindon to Westbury, I believe?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 17:01, 10th January 2023 | |
Been all sorts of problems on the Berks & Hants today. The points to the turnback siding at Bedwyn failed - one train had to run to Woodborough (beyond Pewsey) to cross over and come back. There has also been a signal failure with trains being talked past a red.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 17:36, 10th January 2023 | |
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to congestion.
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to congestion.
16:25 Westbury to Swindon due 17:08
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
(I note that the 17:36 was re-instated yesterday. Don't know how many people made alternative arrangements and how many turned up at the stations to actually catch it)
As predicted - the last two above re-instated.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 08:21, 12th January 2023 | |
07:37 Westbury to Swindon due 08:19
07:37 Westbury to Swindon due 08:19 is being delayed at Westbury and is now expected to be 25 minutes late.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
07:37 Westbury to Swindon due 08:19 is being delayed at Westbury and is now expected to be 25 minutes late.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
08:45 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26
08:45 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26 will be starting late from Swindon and is expected to be 3 minutes late.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
08:45 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26 will be starting late from Swindon and is expected to be 3 minutes late.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 09:35, 12th January 2023 | |
09:46 Westbury to Swindon due 10:34
11:05 Swindon to Westbury due 11:47
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 12:59
13:15 Swindon to Westbury due 13:56
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
11:05 Swindon to Westbury due 11:47
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 12:59
13:15 Swindon to Westbury due 13:56
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by Trowres at 10:42, 12th January 2023 | |
A VST (ad-hoc) service 2Z22 Swindon-Westbury departed from Swindon at 10:15, headed falteringly past Wootton Bassett Junction, and, as I type this as 10:40, has been routed via a crossover back towards Swindon.
It's still shown on the TIGER site as calling at Melksham.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 14:36, 12th January 2023 | |
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
16:25 Westbury to Swindon due 17:08
16:25 Westbury to Swindon due 17:08 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
16:25 Westbury to Swindon due 17:08
16:25 Westbury to Swindon due 17:08 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 16:29, 12th January 2023 | |
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20
18:34 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:45 Swindon to Westbury due 21:26
20:45 Swindon to Westbury due 21:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
18:34 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:45 Swindon to Westbury due 21:26
20:45 Swindon to Westbury due 21:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
If the flooding is between Chippenham and Swindon, why isn't a shuttle running between Westbury and Chippenham like it did last Sunday?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by Timmer at 17:43, 12th January 2023 | |
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20
18:34 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:45 Swindon to Westbury due 21:26
20:45 Swindon to Westbury due 21:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
18:34 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:45 Swindon to Westbury due 21:26
20:45 Swindon to Westbury due 21:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
If the flooding is between Chippenham and Swindon, why isn't a shuttle running between Westbury and Chippenham like it did last Sunday?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by stuving at 18:25, 12th January 2023 | |
If the flooding is between Chippenham and Swindon, why isn't a shuttle running between Westbury and Chippenham like it did last Sunday?
You could also ask why there is no shuttle service between Bristol and Chippenham? There must be an unreported issue between Bath and Chippenham as to why no services can run between these two stations and the Transwilts running between Westbury and Chippenham.Depends what you mean by unannounced. There is flooding in at least two places on that route, but it didn't lead to any specific announcement since the trains it blocked weren't running anyway due to flooding elsewhere.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 18:31, 12th January 2023 | |
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be diverted between Gloucester and Trowbridge.
It will no longer call at Stonehouse, Stroud, Kemble, Swindon, Chippenham and Melksham but will call additionally at Bristol Parkway and Bath Spa.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be diverted between Gloucester and Trowbridge.
It will no longer call at Stonehouse, Stroud, Kemble, Swindon, Chippenham and Melksham but will call additionally at Bristol Parkway and Bath Spa.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:05
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:05 will be diverted between Trowbridge and Gloucester.
It will no longer call at Melksham, Chippenham, Swindon, Kemble, Stroud and Stonehouse but will call additionally at Bath Spa and Bristol Parkway.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 4 minutes late.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:05 will be diverted between Trowbridge and Gloucester.
It will no longer call at Melksham, Chippenham, Swindon, Kemble, Stroud and Stonehouse but will call additionally at Bath Spa and Bristol Parkway.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 4 minutes late.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
And from one of our regular users:
Nice journey home by train. Due to all lines flooded west of Swindon have to go via Reading and then to Westbury.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 18:34, 12th January 2023 | |
Warning! Network Rail tweeted that flooding disruption will continue into tomorrow.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 18:41, 12th January 2023 | |
Latest update from JourneyCheck
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham
Due to heavy rain flooding the railway at Chippenham all lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until 20:00 12/01.
Train services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham will be cancelled.
Customer Advice
The local-stopping service between Swindon & Westbury is suspended due to flooding in the Dauntsey Lock area (east of Chippenham). We are sourcing road transport to operate, but this is still pending. As soon as we have confirmation of road transport, this will be published in online journey planners. Please check your journey at gwr.com/check - or speak to staff.
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We're sorry for any disruption this brings to your travel plans today.
Further Information
An update will follow within the next 2 hours.
If you hold a valid single, return, or weekly ticket, you will be able to claim compensation for delays of 15 minutes or more. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:12/01/2023 18:04
Due to heavy rain flooding the railway at Chippenham all lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until 20:00 12/01.
Train services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham will be cancelled.
Customer Advice
The local-stopping service between Swindon & Westbury is suspended due to flooding in the Dauntsey Lock area (east of Chippenham). We are sourcing road transport to operate, but this is still pending. As soon as we have confirmation of road transport, this will be published in online journey planners. Please check your journey at gwr.com/check - or speak to staff.
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We're sorry for any disruption this brings to your travel plans today.
Further Information
An update will follow within the next 2 hours.
If you hold a valid single, return, or weekly ticket, you will be able to claim compensation for delays of 15 minutes or more. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:12/01/2023 18:04
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by Trowres at 21:47, 13th January 2023 | |
And today, Friday 13th, there were no cancellations . Two trains a bit late at Melksham ( 6 and 8 minutes ).
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:09, 14th January 2023 | |
09:35 Swindon to Westbury due 10:16
09:35 Swindon to Westbury due 10:16 is being delayed at Swindon.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 13:39, 14th January 2023 | |
13:05 Swindon to Westbury due 13:48
13:05 Swindon to Westbury due 13:48 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
13:05 Swindon to Westbury due 13:48 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
14:05 Westbury to Swindon due 14:54
15:06 Westbury to Swindon due 15:50
15:10 Swindon to Westbury due 15:56
16:05 Swindon to Westbury due 16:46
16:36 Westbury to Swindon due 17:25
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:17
15:06 Westbury to Swindon due 15:50
15:10 Swindon to Westbury due 15:56
16:05 Swindon to Westbury due 16:46
16:36 Westbury to Swindon due 17:25
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:17
All of the above flagged up as short runs ...gotta dash all see how later!
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:17 will be terminated at Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Melksham, Trowbridge and Westbury.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
It will no longer call at Melksham, Trowbridge and Westbury.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 17:22, 14th January 2023 | |
18:35 Westbury to Swindon due 19:24
19:35 Swindon to Westbury due 20:15
21:07 Swindon to Westbury due 21:49
21:07 Swindon to Westbury due 21:49 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway earlier today.
19:35 Swindon to Westbury due 20:15
21:07 Swindon to Westbury due 21:49
21:07 Swindon to Westbury due 21:49 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway earlier today.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by Trowres at 17:27, 14th January 2023 | |
The 16:36 Westbury-Swindon (2M21) is now running as timetabled; somewhere between Chippenham and Wootton Bassett Jn as I type this
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by Trowres at 17:45, 14th January 2023 | |
It has reached Swindon and is now forming 2M30, the 17:35 Swindon-Westbury. I wish I knew what the train describers and announcements at Swindon said - the TIGER feed for Swindon didn't show this train as reinstated until the last moment.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 07:59, 16th January 2023 | |
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 was terminated at Salisbury.
It will no longer call at Romsey and Southampton Central.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 was terminated at Salisbury.
It will no longer call at Romsey and Southampton Central.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 16:45, 16th January 2023 | |
Was the Penalty Fares poster up to date with new Penalty though?
It was current - I have just established that penalty fares go up on 23rd according to LNWR
From 23/01, Penalty Fares in England are increasing to £100, plus the price of the full single fare applicable to the intended destination.
Buy tickets via our website, ticket offices, ticket vending machines, or our app.
Buy tickets via our website, ticket offices, ticket vending machines, or our app.
A specific date in January that I had not previously been aware of - just knew the month.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 17:21, 16th January 2023 | |
Yep - you beat me to it - I saw a warning poster at the weekend that had that date, so it's next Monday.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 18:41, 18th January 2023 | |
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 20:17, 18th January 2023 | |
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:05
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:05 will be started from Swindon.
It will no longer call at Westbury, Trowbridge, Melksham and Chippenham.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:05 will be started from Swindon.
It will no longer call at Westbury, Trowbridge, Melksham and Chippenham.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 07:40, 20th January 2023 | |
06:35 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:03
06:35 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:03 is being delayed at Melksham and is now expected to be 13 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
06:35 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:03 is being delayed at Melksham and is now expected to be 13 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 09:16, 21st January 2023 | |
08:34 Westbury to Swindon due 09:23
09:35 Swindon to Westbury due 10:16
09:35 Swindon to Westbury due 10:16 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to a fault on this train.
09:35 Swindon to Westbury due 10:16
09:35 Swindon to Westbury due 10:16 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to a fault on this train.
The 08:34 from Westbury left 32 minutes late ... so the train hasn't got the time to get to Swindon and back ... connection will arrive Swindon at 10:10 (as opposed to 09:23)
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 10:18, 21st January 2023 | |
10:07 Westbury to Swindon due 10:54
10:07 Westbury to Swindon due 10:54 will be terminated at Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
It is being delayed at Westbury.
This is due to a fault on this train.
10:07 Westbury to Swindon due 10:54 will be terminated at Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
It is being delayed at Westbury.
This is due to a fault on this train.
11:05 Swindon to Westbury due 11:48
11:05 Swindon to Westbury due 11:48 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to a fault on this train.
11:05 Swindon to Westbury due 11:48 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to a fault on this train.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 06:52, 22nd January 2023 | |
14:21 Frome to Swindon due 15:23
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38
16:43 Frome to Swindon due 17:35
17:44 Swindon to Westbury due 18:24
Facilities on the 17:44 Swindon to Westbury due 18:24.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38
16:43 Frome to Swindon due 17:35
17:44 Swindon to Westbury due 18:24
Facilities on the 17:44 Swindon to Westbury due 18:24.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 10:46, 22nd January 2023 | |
10:44 Westbury to Swindon due 11:28
11:41 Swindon to Westbury due 12:21
11:41 Swindon to Westbury due 12:21 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
11:41 Swindon to Westbury due 12:21
11:41 Swindon to Westbury due 12:21 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
18th, 20th, 21st, 22nd ... cancellations or short runs almost every day due to rolling stock problems. On a service that's every few minutes line London to Reading, perhaps that's not unreasonable. But on a service that's only every 2 hours in the first place ...
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 05:13, 23rd January 2023 | |
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
Facilities on the 17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06.
Toilet facilities are not available. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.
Facilities on the 17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06.
Toilet facilities are not available. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:57, 23rd January 2023 | |
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
Facilities on the 17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06.
Toilet facilities are not available. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.
Facilities on the 17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06.
Toilet facilities are not available. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.
A long trip with crossed legs on a cold night!
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 07:14, 23rd January 2023 | |
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
Facilities on the 17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06.
Toilet facilities are not available. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.
Facilities on the 17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06.
Toilet facilities are not available. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.
A long trip with crossed legs on a cold night!
The train pauses for 18 minutes in Swindon where (one hopes) the toilet facilities will be open, and that the train manager will advise customers of their availability.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 07:45, 23rd January 2023 | |
Careful what you wish for. This morning the gents toilets on the island platform at Swindon are closed with a large pool of, one hopes, water outside.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 08:16, 23rd January 2023 | |
06:35 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:03
06:35 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:03 has been delayed at Salisbury and is now 20 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
06:35 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:03 has been delayed at Salisbury and is now 20 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 14:56, 31st January 2023 | |
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 has been previously delayed, has been further delayed at Melksham and is now 11 minutes late.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 has been previously delayed, has been further delayed at Melksham and is now 11 minutes late.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be starting late from Swindon.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be starting late from Swindon.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 09:07, 5th February 2023 | |
Not exactly an immediate cancellation, but it may as well be for two people who went to catch the "train".
Can you post something for melksham train users today.
As you know it bus replacement and the driver is a [deleted].
Left two passengers behind at melksham as they had no tickets as the machine is not accepting card or cash. They wil need to have tickets on the phone
thanks
As you know it bus replacement and the driver is a [deleted].
Left two passengers behind at melksham as they had no tickets as the machine is not accepting card or cash. They wil need to have tickets on the phone
thanks
I have posted a warning on the Melksham site, and asked @GWRHelp about this. With the penalty fare changes a fortnight ago, is leaving passengers unable to purchase tickets behind the new way of things, or is this a bus driver who is not aligned with how things should be done in these circumstances?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 10:31, 5th February 2023 | |
Ongoing exchanges with GWR on the problem of the rail replacement bus refusing to pick up passengers without tickets, even though there are no ticket purchase facilities at Melksham this morning.
As I understand it, ticket machine out of action (so even pre-purchased tickets cannot be collected) and no way to purchase on a card as there normally would be. No way to pay in cash (normally pay the train manager), and no-one there to ask for help - station itself unmanned and cafe with CRP staff does not open on Sundays anyway.
A note from another driver who sometimes runs Rail Replacement Services that he's instructed not to check tickets, which seems sensible as the complex ticketing system of the railways is not something many bus drivers would understand, and they don't have rail ticket machines on the buses anyway. So as reported, this appears to be a driver taking an authority and action outside the normal remit.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:36, 5th February 2023 | |
Yes, there should be no ticket checks made by RRB drivers as they are not trained. I would perhaps say a “You need a ticket, mate” to any passengers who looks a bit dubious would be acceptable, but no more than that. If tickets need to be checked then it’s up to the TOC to provide a member of their staff to do the check.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 11:52, 5th February 2023 | |
I visited Melksham Station. I arrived at the station actually just after the bus arrived and was surprised to see people headed from the bus stop onto the platform the use the TVM (which contrary to earlier suggestions IS working for cards) before coming back to join the bus. I spoke with the driver of the bus (11:30 to Westbury) and told him about the limitations of ticket purchase at Melksham. He explained that he could only wait so long when people had been sent to the machine, as others on the bus have connections to make. I suspect there will be no further issues during his shift.
From 2 hours back, @GWRHelp don't seem to have got a message through to him (and he is a First employee) - wonderful what people in the local friends group (such as myself) can do to sort out a little local difficulty even when the TOC can't!
Edit to clarify a couple of words (make it read better)
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by Mark A at 13:08, 5th February 2023 | |
Ongoing exchanges with GWR on the problem of the rail replacement bus refusing to pick up passengers without tickets, even though there are no ticket purchase facilities at Melksham this morning....
So as reported, this appears to be a driver taking an authority and action outside the normal remit.
So as reported, this appears to be a driver taking an authority and action outside the normal remit.
Wondering if this might be a product of the new stance on penalty fares from certain TOCs. Not sure if it helps front-line staff, and will encourage some to over-reach.
Cardiff Central the other day, two people who spoke very little english had managed to turn up at the barriers from London - and were heading for one of the welsh valleys station. They seemed to think they'd paid for the London to Cardiff stretch using Oyster but the barrier mechanism wasn't so sure - they were wanting to know from the TfW staff outside the barrier how to purchase onward tickets to the valleys destination. I'm hoping the excess ticket window handled *that* gracefully. A tale that sort of indicates that no matter how complicated one might think ticketing is, real world examples manage to throw out something even more complicated and hitherto not imagined.
Mark
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 13:16, 5th February 2023 | |
Are RRS drivers actually *instructed* not to check tickets and/or check whether they have a ticket (any ticket)? or just not instructed at all about ticket checking? There is a big difference.
If it's a rogue driver ignoring their instructions, there is very little (read: nothing) and TOC can do om a Sunday morning - there would be no one within the bus control able to get a message to the driver within a couple of hours at least (remember that drivers are *instructed* not to check their phones while working)
Using Oyster to travel long distances....is a known problem. That'd hurt their pockets trying to sort that out, even i no penalty fare issued (which I doubt it was). That is exactly why on-train checks are necessary so that errors like that are caught early. I wonder why they thought Oyster might get them to Cardiff but not on up the valleys? Hmm, that raises me a flag that would be investigated. I can understand those with a language difficulty thinking Oyster might be a uk product across all rail, but then to want to buy a separate ticket up the valleys doesn't compute easily.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 13:34, 5th February 2023 | |
Are RRS drivers actually *instructed* not to check tickets and/or check whether they have a ticket (any ticket)? or just not instructed at all about ticket checking? There is a big difference.
He waved papers at me saying there was nothing in his instructions about checking tickets or not.
If it's a rogue driver ignoring their instructions, there is very little (read: nothing) and TOC can do on a Sunday morning.
(remember that drivers are *instructed* not to check their phones while working)
(remember that drivers are *instructed* not to check their phones while working)
Does "nothing the TOC could do" include asking a member of Chippenham or Westbury station staff to pop down to the RRB when it's there and inform or remind the driver of the situation with tickets?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 14:09, 5th February 2023 | |
To catch every RRS & its driver, probably. Which RRS and which driver? Station staff won't have the roster, and nor would GWR control.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 14:25, 5th February 2023 | |
To catch every RRS & its driver, probably. Which RRS and which driver? Station staff won't have the roster, and nor would GWR control.
It's one bus, Chris. Shuttling up and down today between Westbury and Chippenham. The ONLY Rail Replacement bus all day at Westbury (where staff could have a word) and Trowbridge (more difficult as staff are in ticket office and bus call is brief). There was no suggestion that this is an endemic problem across all GWR rail replacement services. But, I grant you, far easier when the problem is identified for @GWRHelp to pass it on internally and be secure in the knowledge the problem will go away at the end of the day - at least for the time being.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 14:27, 5th February 2023 | |
Drivers can still be swapped over, depending on their hours & shift.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 14:31, 5th February 2023 | |
Drivers can still be swapped over, depending on their hours & shift.
Yep ... a brief chat with the current driver is not guaranteed to fix the issue, but it has a darned good chance and would have been a darned site better chance than just excuse/smokescreen mode. Would have worked too, because there wasn't a swap / shift change.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by IndustryInsider at 16:28, 5th February 2023 | |
Well said, Graham. Sadly ChrisB’s ‘computer says no’ arguments seem to be endemic in the post-Covid government controlled railway.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 16:32, 5th February 2023 | |
Indeed - Problems can be increased with centralisation. Area Manager as was would have sorted that quickly wghere there was more local management.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 05:13, 6th February 2023 | |
05:17 Westbury to Swindon due 06:01
05:17 Westbury to Swindon due 06:01 will be terminated at Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
It will be starting late from Westbury.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
05:17 Westbury to Swindon due 06:01 will be terminated at Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
It will be starting late from Westbury.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:31, 8th February 2023 | |
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 is being delayed at Westbury.
This is due to a broken down train.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 08:11, 8th February 2023 | |
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 is being delayed at Westbury.
This is due to a broken down train.
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 is being delayed at Westbury.
This is due to a broken down train.
and now terminating at Salisbury. It is (when it runs) the extra school train south of Salisbury to there many be some children late to school this morning. Not a huge deal as it would be further north - gap of 15 minutes before the next Salisbury to Southampton train, and most passenger on the train change as Salisbury so relatively few Warminster to Romsey or Southampton passengers.
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 will be terminated at Salisbury.
It will no longer call at Romsey and Southampton Central.
It has been delayed at Westbury and is now 36 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train.
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 will be terminated at Salisbury.
It will no longer call at Romsey and Southampton Central.
It has been delayed at Westbury and is now 36 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by GBM at 12:10, 8th February 2023 | |
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 will be terminated at Salisbury.
It will no longer call at Romsey and Southampton Central.
It has been delayed at Westbury and is now 36 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train.
Wonder if this was tied in with 1F01 failure at Romsey, and the subsequent knock on delays.
http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=27173.msg330624#msg330624
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 07:16, 10th February 2023 | |
05:17 Westbury to Swindon due 05:59
05:17 Westbury to Swindon due 05:59 has been previously delayed, is being further delayed at Wootton Bassett Jn and is now expected to be 85 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
05:17 Westbury to Swindon due 05:59 has been previously delayed, is being further delayed at Wootton Bassett Jn and is now expected to be 85 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 is being delayed at Swindon and is now expected to be 80 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:07 is being delayed at Swindon and is now expected to be 80 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 09:00, 10th February 2023 | |
06:35 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:03
06:35 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:03 has been delayed at Westbury and is now 29 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
06:35 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:03 has been delayed at Westbury and is now 29 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 09:51, 12th February 2023 | |
09:14 Swindon to Westbury due 09:56
09:14 Swindon to Westbury due 09:56 will be starting late from Swindon.
This is due to the train departing late to maintain customer connections.
Further Information
09:14 Swindon to Westbury due 09:56 will be starting late from Swindon.
This is due to the train departing late to maintain customer connections.
Further Information
Potentially, a good call. Connections are more important than being bang on time. Slight caution flag on TransWilts that a delay at Swindon to maintain connections from London could impact connections at Trowbridge for Bristol and at Westbury for Taunton and beyond, for Salisbury and beyond, and for the line to Weymouth.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 10:41, 12th February 2023 | |
Service arrived at Westbury eight minutes late. As it happened the service to Penzance was also delayed so no problem there nor to Weymouth. However the connection to Salisbury was lost.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 10:56, 12th February 2023 | |
Service arrived at Westbury eight minutes late. As it happened the service to Penzance was also delayed so no problem there nor to Weymouth. However the connection to Salisbury was lost.
Thanks for that, Bob - really good example of the complexities. I would not like to even suggest which was the more important connection to maintain - the one at Swindon or the one at Westbury.
Westbury "missed" by 4 minutes ... the Salisbury train left on time, and was 2 minutes early terminating there. That left 12 minutes there for people to connect to the next departure which was a bus to Southampton. Wonderful hindsight suggest that a hold of the Salisbury train at Westbury like the Westbury one was held at Swindon would have created a delay which worked its way out of the system very quickly, but hindsight is marvellous stuff that always comes too late.
No miss at Trowbridge - there wasn't a connection there in the first place, with a Cardiff train timetabled to leave there a minute before the train from Swindon arrived.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:21, 15th February 2023 | |
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Chippenham via Melksham
Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident near the railway between Westbury and Trowbridge all lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until 15:00 15/02.
Train services between Westbury and Chippenham via Melksham may be cancelled or delayed.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 15:00, 15th February 2023 | |
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 will be terminated at Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
It has been previously delayed, has been further delayed between Trowbridge and Melksham and is now 23 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
14:16 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 will be terminated at Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
It has been previously delayed, has been further delayed between Trowbridge and Melksham and is now 23 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 15:10, 15th February 2023 | |
Problems caused by an incident at a bridge just north of Trowbridge Station
https://www.wiltshire999s.co.uk/999-crews-scrambled-trowbridge-found-bridge/
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 15:38, 15th February 2023 | |
Problems caused by an incident at a bridge just north of Trowbridge Station
https://www.wiltshire999s.co.uk/999-crews-scrambled-trowbridge-found-bridge/
https://www.wiltshire999s.co.uk/999-crews-scrambled-trowbridge-found-bridge/
For record
12:17 Westbury to Swindon cancelled
13:15 Swindon to Westbury cancelled
Reason code XA - "trespass" which I suppose is as accurate as they have available if you read the article.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:14, 15th February 2023 | |
16:25 Westbury to Swindon due 17:08
16:25 Westbury to Swindon due 17:08 has been cancelled.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20
17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:20 will be cancelled.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 10:08, 18th February 2023 | |
09:45 Swindon to Salisbury due 11:06
09:45 Swindon to Salisbury due 11:06 will be diverted between Chippenham and Trowbridge.
It will no longer call at Melksham.
This is due to congestion.
09:45 Swindon to Salisbury due 11:06 will be diverted between Chippenham and Trowbridge.
It will no longer call at Melksham.
This is due to congestion.
Short term - if it's congested - why not stop something that's causing the congestion there??
Long term - if it's congested - why not put in an extra loop and signals - it was originally double track broad gauge after all!
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by ChrisB at 11:18, 18th February 2023 | |
Broken down train causing the congestion?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 11:28, 18th February 2023 | |
Broken down train causing the congestion?
Maybe - except that the Berks and Hants is closed through Newbury and Pewsey today with oodles of diverted trains passing through Melksham, and the ONLY train that Journeycheck flagged up as being "congested" off the line was the local one, nothing else delayed, short run or cancelled. Circumstantial evidence suggests to me that it's not a broken down train - rather trying to fit a quart into a pint pot, and the casualty of that failing, as usual, is a cancellation of service(s) at Melksham.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 12:21, 18th February 2023 | |
The 08:44 from London Paddington to Plymouth was booked to operate via Melksham due to the engineering works on the Berks & Hants. However it left London 17 minutes late due to crew issues. That meant it was going to conflict with the TW service on the single line.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 12:30, 18th February 2023 | |
The 08:44 from London Paddington to Plymouth was booked to operate via Melksham due to the engineering works on the Berks & Hants. However it left London 17 minutes late due to crew issues. That meant it was going to conflict with the TW service on the single line.
Thank you, Bob. It would have been really nice if they had put a stop order in for Melksham, wouldn't it? Not even an offer to source rail replacement road transport as far as I saw. What's the speed limit for an IET through Melksham?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by GBM at 12:38, 18th February 2023 | |
Just curious.
Would a 5 car IET be able to run perhaps Weymouth to Gloucester or Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff?
I believe there were bogie issues for HST? so guess the same could apply for IET's.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 12:51, 18th February 2023 | |
The 08:44 from London Paddington to Plymouth was booked to operate via Melksham due to the engineering works on the Berks & Hants. However it left London 17 minutes late due to crew issues. That meant it was going to conflict with the TW service on the single line.
Thank you, Bob. It would have been really nice if they had put a stop order in for Melksham, wouldn't it? Not even an offer to source rail replacement road transport as far as I saw. What's the speed limit for an IET through Melksham?
There was an updated journeycheck message about taxis.
70 towards Trowbridge, 40 towards Chippenham.
We have discussed this ad infinitum before. The Plymouth service was a nine car. Two five cars would certainly have created an issue as it does at places like Hayle and Hungerford where people end up in the wrong half of the train even on regular services that call at short platforms.
However the decision was taken pretty late to re-route the TW service - possibly to see how much time the Plymouth could make up between London and Swindon. Even if stopping at Melksham was possible (I am still not sure that is programmed in) how much more of a delay would be incurred by transferring passengers from platform 2 to 4? Station platforms were at a premium at that point with two trains to Paddington, one each to Swansea, Plymouth and Salisbury and a steam charter all in 15 minutes,
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by stuving at 12:56, 18th February 2023 | |
Just curious.
Would a 5 car IET be able to run perhaps Weymouth to Gloucester or Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff?
I believe there were bogie issues for HST? so guess the same could apply for IET's.
Would a 5 car IET be able to run perhaps Weymouth to Gloucester or Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff?
I believe there were bogie issues for HST? so guess the same could apply for IET's.
The "IEP Network" as originally defined goes into SWR territory for just two diversionary routes:
1. Castle Cary - Yeovil - Exeter, and
2. Reading - Waterloo (including via Kew Bridge).
I think that's all been proved, not that I've ever seen one passing through Wokingham. Some more bits could have been added, though I can't think why those would have been.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 12:59, 18th February 2023 | |
We have discussed this ad infinitum before. ...
Indeed. It remains an issue that is not yet solved though!
How are the plans for an intermediate loop (which would also allow 2 trains to follow each other closer) coming along?
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 13:14, 18th February 2023 | |
There is a lot of work going on looking at Westbury and its environs.
A station at Devizes Parkway needs a service - which could possibly be an extension of what used to be the London to Bedwyn service.
That once again raises the question of the fourth platform at Westbury.
Looking further afield more freight and a desire to have an hourly service on all directions in and out of Westbury puts pressure to improve the single line. A lot of talk going on but nothing concrete to show as yet.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 17:44, 18th February 2023 | |
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:28
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 17:50, 18th February 2023 | |
The incoming service (16:36 from Westbury) was delayed and then cancelled at Melksham.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by grahame at 20:40, 18th February 2023 | |
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:28
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
16:44 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:27
16:44 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:27 will call additionally at Trowbridge.
It has been delayed between Swindon and Trowbridge and is now 20 minutes late.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
16:44 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:27 will call additionally at Trowbridge.
It has been delayed between Swindon and Trowbridge and is now 20 minutes late.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
Good. Called at Chippenham (say there quarter of an hour), One added (Trowbridge) just Melksham to go to a proper solution to the cancellation of the key Swindon to Westbury service of the day.
| Re: 2023 - Train update and amendment log - Swindon <-> Westbury Posted by bobm at 20:50, 18th February 2023 | |
