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Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
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Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:50, 13th May 2010
 
From the BBC:

The driver of school bus which had its roof ripped off when he drove under a railway bridge has been suspended.
The 49-year-old was held on suspicion of drink-driving and dangerous driving after the incident in Station Road, Langley, Slough, on Wednesday.
It led to rail delays between London and Reading.
The driver, who was travelling from Iver in Buckinghamshire, has been bailed by police and suspended by Buckinghamshire County Council.
In a statement, the authority said: "We can confirm the driver has been suspended from his duties pending further investigations. The driver was arrested and this has now become a police matter on which we cannot comment further."
The driver was the only person on board and was not injured.
Police said there was no structural damage to the bridge and the road was reopened after several hours.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Electric train at 20:34, 13th May 2010
 
Delayed the journey home yesterday 

If the drive was over the limit I think as a PSV holder even with an empty bus the drive is looking at a custodial sentence

Suppose there is now another open top bus available for tours this summer 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:39, 13th May 2010
 
Jenny Mulholland, landlady of the nearby Willow Tree pub, said: "I just happened to look out the window and saw a bus with no roof and thought, 'that's a sight you don't see very often'."

 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 02:45, 13th July 2010
 
From the BBC (12/07/2010):


Drink-driving charge for Slough bridge crash bus driver

The driver of a school bus which had its roof ripped off when it hit a railway bridge has been charged with drink-driving and dangerous driving. Gurdeep Sagoo was travelling from Chalfont in Buckinghamshire when the bus hit the bridge in Station Road, Langley, Slough, on 12 May.

The 49-year-old, from Southwell, Middlesex, was bailed to appear before magistrates in Maidenhead on 26 July.

He was suspended by Buckinghamshire County Council pending the case.

Mr Sagoo was the only person on board and was not hurt.


Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:15, 18th September 2010
 
From the Daily Mail:

Drunk school bus driver who sliced roof off double-decker avoids jail

A school bus driver who sliced off the roof of his double-decker as he tried to squeeze under a railway bridge while drunk has narrowly avoided going to jail. Gurdeep Singh Sagoo was three times over the drink-drive limit when he 'forgot' he was driving a double-decker. He had earlier dropped off 46 college students.

The accident in Langley, Berkshire, led to the main rail line between London and the West being closed and a bill of ^250,000 being handed to the coach company by Network Rail for 180 cancelled services.
 
At Reading Crown Court, a judge criticised him as 'thoughtless' and the college principal said it was a miracle that nobody had been hurt.

Sagoo, 49, had earlier admitted dangerous driving and driving while over the legal alcohol limit.
 
Joanne Belsey, prosecuting, told the hearing that on May 12 he collected the students from Chalfonts Community College in Gerrards Cross and drove the normal route. After dropping off all his passengers, he approached the bridge.
 
'The bridge was 12ft 9in high, and this was clearly signposted along with a number of yellow and black chevrons around it,' she said. 'The defendant drove through the bridge and the collision took place, removing the top section of the bus.'
 
Sagoo called police, who breathalysed him and found he had 97mg of alcohol in his breath, nearly three times the limit. He told police he had forgotten he was driving the double-decker as he usually drove a single-decker along the route. He also said that he had been drinking the night before with friends who were visiting from Canada, which he admitted was an 'error'.

Rachel Adams, defending, said her client was now jobless and cared for his elderly mother.

Sentencing, Judge Gordon Risius said Sagoo's driving was 'thoughtless' rather than reckless. He gave Sagoo, of Southall, west London, an eight- month jail term suspended for two years. He also ordered him to carry out 200 hours of unpaid work and banned him from driving for two years.

A spokesman for Sagoo's former employer, Imperial coaches, said: 'It was a complete shock. Mr Sagoo had been working for us since January and was a good employee.'

Sue Tanner, headteacher of the college, said: 'All I could think was that it is a miracle that no children were hurt. Parents expect to have confidence in drivers who are taking responsibility for their children.'


My highlighting. CfN. 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:26, 18th November 2010
 
From the BBC:

A double decker bus has had its roof ripped off after crashing into a railway bridge in Edinburgh.

The driver of the Club Class bus is understood to have misjudged the height of the bridge in Roseburn Street, Murrayfield, at about 1420 GMT.

One passenger on the top deck was thrown downstairs when the bus hit the bridge. There were also three passengers sitting downstairs.

Lothian and Borders Police said the road would be closed until 1700 GMT.

The passenger who was sitting upstairs only received minor injuries.

Erm ... "The driver of the Club Class bus is understood to have misjudged the height of the bridge ..."?

It's 12' 9", according to the sign.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by inspector_blakey at 21:43, 18th November 2010
 
No kidding! Doesn't look like he was even close to clearing that bridge.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 23:47, 18th November 2010
 
did the driver think he was driving a single decker, whats the height of a double decker!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by readytostart at 01:35, 19th November 2010
 
From recolection of my ScotRail days Club Class buses are like mobile nightclubs, all double deckers, taking revellers between different venues. My guess is that the driver was trying to get to or from Murrayfield stadium.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:38, 19th November 2010
 
... in this case, all four revellers, at 14:20 - one upstairs, and three downstairs. 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:06, 26th March 2011
 
From the BBC:

The roof of a double decker bus which was carrying passengers was ripped off after it went under a low level railway bridge in Cheshire.



Ambulance crews attended but police said no-one was seriously injured in the crash which took place on Silk Road, Macclesfield, at about 1730 GMT.

The road was closed between Buxton Road and Sunderland Street and rail services through the area have been disrupted.

An investigation is under way into why the bus was travelling on the route.

See also the Manchester Evening News:

Video: Roof torn off double decker bus as it crashes under 11ft high railway bridge in Macclesfield

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by inspector_blakey at 20:44, 26th March 2011
 
 

Looks like a very fortunate escape for all concerned. Seems a bit strange to me that the bridge made such a neat job of slicing the roof off that bus though - has it been tidied up, is there some kind of structural weakness that results in this happening, or is it intentional?

I don't know if there are still any in traffic with First Bristol, but the Volvo/Alexander double deckers that used to operate Badgerline country services to/from W-s-M and were later cascaded to Portishead/Clevedon etc used to have a prominent sticker above the driving position advising that because of their height they could not pass under Bitton or Stapleton Road railway bridges, thus precluding their use on the 332 and possibly other services as well.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:19, 26th March 2011
 
A similarly near-professional finish was achieved in Glasgow, just over six months ago: See http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=7427.0

... a prominent sticker above the driving position ...

Ah, but were those stickers in Polish, too? See http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=3670.msg28533#msg28533 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 18:49, 24th October 2011
 
From the BBC:

A double-decker bus struck a tree and lost its roof in Bristol injuring 18 people, seven of whom were taken to hospital.

Crews were called to Fishponds Road following the accident involving the 342 service just after 07:40 BST.

Great Western Ambulance Service said those injured mainly had head injuries, but none was seriously hurt.

The busy road was closed for several hours but reopened just before 12:00 BST.

Operator First Bus confirmed one of its fleet had been involved in the incident.



'Loud bang'

"The top of the double-decker bus was in collision with some tree branches which were hanging over the road," a First Bus spokeswoman said. "The bus was in service at the time, with a number of passengers on board. Our teams are on the scene and are working with the relevant authorities to determine exactly what has happened. Our thoughts are currently with those people who were on the bus at the time of the incident and their friends and family."

Jonathan Pomeyie, who lives nearby, said he had been at the back of his house making a cup of tea when he heard a loud bang.

"It was a very deep impact type of sound, like an explosion. At first I wasn't too sure what it was. I [later] got a phone call from one of my friends who said there had been a bus accident so I looked out of a window to see if there were any delays to the traffic. I saw police, paramedics and firemen everywhere. It was a horrid and unbelievable sight to wake up to."


Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by inspector_blakey at 19:13, 24th October 2011
 
Not that I just Googled this and found a Daily Mail Article or anything, but their photo caption reads as follows...

"The 342 bus had all of its roof torn off, after colluding with a low-hanging branch" 

Damn those conspiratorial tree branches, good thing no-one was seriously hurt.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2052765/Bristol-bus-accident-6-injured-double-decker-roof-ripped-branch.html#ixzz1bixBvlUj

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by fatcontroller at 20:45, 24th October 2011
 
The irony being that First do not actually own this bus.
It was on loan from Volvo to cover for warranty work on the existing Volvo's!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 16:00, 25th October 2011
 
The irony being that First do not actually own this bus.
It was on loan from Volvo to cover for warranty work on the existing Volvo's!

Surprised they use such an old vehicle as a loan vehicle! the bus involved was 1 1998 S registration!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by fatcontroller at 10:16, 27th October 2011
 
It was actually V registration - V124LGC if my memory serves me correctly.
It first entered service in 1999 with Go-Ahead London and has recently been replaced by newer vehicles.

A lot of similar vehicles have recently been rendered surplus from London and several dealers  / finance houses are struggling to shift them to other operators.

Makes sense for Volvo to use a couple.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Ollie at 10:19, 27th October 2011
 
Ah well it's an extra double decker to do sightseeing tours now

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 21:29, 27th October 2011
 
It was actually V registration - V124LGC if my memory serves me correctly.
It first entered service in 1999 with Go-Ahead London and has recently been replaced by newer vehicles.

Yes thats right, i had it recorded as S124LGC, but it is V124LGC

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by grahame at 09:43, 7th September 2012
 
http://travel.aol.co.uk/2012/09/06/double-decker-bus-roof-ripped-off-railway-bridge-crash-hampshire/?

A spokesman from First Bus told the paper: "The exact cause of the incident is not yet known. ...


Seems all too common an incident ...

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by lordgoata at 11:37, 7th September 2012
 
It's been happening for years - happened on our bus on a school trip to somewhere (Birdworld I think!) 25+ years ago. The driver knew full well he wouldn't make it, stopped and checked, then decided to try anyway and caved the front of the top deck in

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 12:17, 7th September 2012
 
This incident thee driver has done quite a good job of taking it off cleanly!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by smokey at 14:04, 7th September 2012
 
This incident thee driver has done quite a good job of taking it off cleanly!

Knowing First Bus the EX-driver!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Andrew1939 from West Oxon at 16:17, 7th September 2012
 
The bus looks amazingly similar to a scene in a James Bond film from many years. In the film the bus had been prepared by weakening the posts connecting the top deck to the lower deck. That bus must have been going at a good rate to remove the top deck completely.

Oxford railway bridge was always being hit by buses until it was rebuilt with a raised clearance some years ago.. Now that is rare and there is a warning light and sound flashed up if something too high approaches the bridge but a few commercial vehicles still seem to get caught.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Gordon the Blue Engine at 18:36, 7th September 2012
 
The fast lines railway overbridge (which is a deck bridge, in contrast to the RL bridge which is a masonry arch) over the A329 just south of Pangbourne station had a VERY substantiable collison beam installed a few years ago, presumably after a risk asssesment by NR.  It's paid off on at least one occasion - here's what happened when a lorry hit it.  The bridge itself, and the train service, were unaffected.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by broadgage at 10:24, 17th September 2012
 
I never use the upper deck of a double deck bus, if not on a bus route that regularly uses double deckers.
Regular doubler deck service, no problem ! if it went safely under the bridges yesterday, then it should still fit today.

Double decker bus on a rail replacement service, or a "one of" excursion, or scheduled route diverted for some reason, then downstairs only for me.

For similar reasons I avoid the end vehicles of trains under emergency or abnormal conditions.
Rail is normally a very safe mode of transport and normally I sit wherever convienient without regard to the minute risks.


If however single line working is in use, or engineering work taking place, or the weather is truly extreme, then I avoid the end vehicles.
A study of past railway accidents seems to suggest that accident is more likely when conditions are already abnormal as regards weather or other circumstances.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by bobm at 17:10, 17th September 2012
 
The irony is in at least two relatively recent accidents - Hatfield and Ufton Nervet - the most serious injuries have been in the buffet car. (And possibly Great Heck too.)  While at Southall and Ladbroke Grove it was Coach H - so I wouldn't be sure where to sit.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 08:17, 28th September 2012
 
Another conversion has occurred, this time in South Gloucestershire. What looks like a double decker owned by Wessex Connect has hit the railway bridge across Gypsy Patch Lane in Patchway. Interestingly this bridge is right next to a large bus depot and one would have thought that all drivers based there would be well aware that this bridge is too low for double deckers. I understand this happened yesterday evening. I've just seen this reported on BBC Breakfast this morning and have yet to find an online report.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:32, 9th December 2012
 
A variation on this theme, from the BBC:

Colne Community School pupils tell of bus crash scare

An Essex schoolgirl has told how she heard a "big crash" and "scraping of metal" as the roof of her school bus was ripped open by a passing tractor.



Georgia Cowie was one of 45 pupils from Colne Community School who were on the double decker bus when it was hit by a tree trimmer in Wivenhoe on Thursday. Four children were treated for minor injuries following the crash.

Georgia said: "It took me until I got back to school until I realised that everything was OK."

Paramedics compared the cut to the bus to that of a "can opener".

Connah Dykes, who was sitting at the back of the bus, said he called the paramedics. "My dad's a fireman so I instantly thought that if someone was hurt we're going to need help," he said. "I'm quite proud but it's something anyone would do in those circumstances."

Judy Wakeling, vice principal of the school in Brightlingsea, said the crash was her "absolute worst nightmare". "We are truly thankful there weren't any more serious injuries," she said.

The Essex County Council-contracted bus was on its way to the Brightlingsea school when the accident happened. It is thought the tractor had its trimmer facing forwards and was moving towards the road when the accident happened. Essex Police said it was not investigating the accident.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 17:31, 28th January 2013
 
Yet another one:

From BBC News (28/01/2013):

Bus has roof torn off in Hampshire railway bridge crash

The roof of a double-decker bus was ripped off when the bus got stuck under a railway bridge in Hampshire. The out-of-service bus hit the railway bridge in Station Road in Portchester at about 09:40 GMT. Fire crews said the bus and its roof were left on opposite sides of the bridge. The bus driver, a 45-year-old man, was treated at the scene for shock.



Another bus run by operator First Group was involved in a similar crash at the same spot almost five months ago.

Police and about 15 firefighters were called to the scene.

A crane is to be used to remove the top of the bus from the bridge, where it had become stuck.

'Severe shock'

Paul Coates, Fareham station manager, said: "The top of the double-decker bus stayed there and the rest of it went through. We closed the road and made the scene safe, and gave first aid to the driver until the ambulance arrived. We gave him oxygen because he was quite in shock when we arrived."

A spokeswoman for Hampshire Constabulary said: "Nobody was on the bus but the driver - it was out of service at the time. The driver was in severe shock and was treated by ambulance crews at the scene."



Experts from Network Rail were called to assess the scene and the road was shut for about three hours.

Operator First Group said it was investigating the incident.

A spokeswoman said: "We are as concerned by this incident as we suspect other local people will be. The exact cause of it is being investigated and the appropriate action will be taken as a result. It is too early to speculate as to what the outcome of the investigation will be. In relation to the previous incident, the cause of that was determined to be human error and the appropriate action was taken as a result."

A Network Rail spokesperson said: "When road vehicles strike railway bridges, it can cause damage, delay and cost to the railway. Thankfully, owing to sturdy engineering by the Victorians, rarely is the damage significant but we have to send an engineer to site to inspect and often we have to delay or even stop trains until this has been done."

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 17:34, 28th January 2013
 
This one BNM is an exact copy of one a few months back, I initially thought you'd posted an old article!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 17:50, 28th January 2013
 
Same make of bus as last time as well - Volvo Olympian - although slightly different body style.

News item from the Daily Mail about previous 'conversion' at the same location: http://tinyurl.com/cnehg8v

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 17:55, 28th January 2013
 
Same make of bus as last time as well - Volvo Olympian - although slightly different body style.

News item from the Daily Mail about previous 'conversion' at the same location: http://tinyurl.com/cnehg8v

Whats the difference in body style other than one has a clean opentop conversion and the other has a front upright!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 18:01, 28th January 2013
 
I've just done some Googling and Olympians seem to be the ones that most commonly strike bridges.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 18:15, 28th January 2013
 
Both incidents involved Volvo Olympians with Northern Counties Palatine bodies, although the first one had dual doors. Both buses are from the same First in Hampshire & Dorset depot - Hoeford.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Network SouthEast at 18:20, 28th January 2013
 
Both incidents involved Volvo Olympians with Northern Counties Palatine bodies, although the first one had dual doors. Both buses are from the same First in Hampshire & Dorset depot - Hilsea.
Taking this thread off topic - BUT - I didn't think Hilsea depot had any double deckers, they are more likely to be from Hoeford depot.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 18:26, 28th January 2013
 
Apologies for the depot error. I was reading the fleet lists and got confused. I edited my post just before Network SouthEast replied.

The two roofless Olympians do indeed belong to Hoeford depot near Fareham.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by anthony215 at 18:29, 28th January 2013
 
Well if its repaired first cymru need a new open topper to replace Bristol VR MOD571P which is now in preservation and so wont be operating the Swansea open top bus service this summer.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 19:01, 28th January 2013
 
Well if its repaired first cymru need a new open topper to replace Bristol VR MOD571P which is now in preservation and so wont be operating the Swansea open top bus service this summer.

Not much repair needed for that, just maybe a screen at the front and a rail all round from other conversions!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by TonyK at 19:11, 28th January 2013
 
Bus has roof torn off in Hampshire railway bridge crash


A spokeswoman said: "... The exact cause of it is being investigated "

I reckon the driver tried to get under a bridge that was too low...



Edited to fix quote. bignosemac

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by paul7575 at 11:46, 29th January 2013
 
Maybe they've all been watching Roger Moore in 'Live and Let Die'?   

Paul

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by GBM at 09:51, 30th January 2013
 
When the pressure is on a driver, mistakes happen.  They are only human,
That said, they have an enormous responsibility at all times when in the cab.
Driving single and double deckers all day long, different routes, different busses, daily varied shifts.
Sudden changes of routes & diversions all add up to a very demanding job.
I can see why this happens.
The hours drivers spend in the cab per week (39+), incidents are bound to happen.
Doesn't excuse it, as the basic fault is always "lack of attention"

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:04, 30th January 2013
 
Thanks for posting, GBM - and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum. 

Do you offer those comments as a bus driver yourself?

I'm interested as to what reminders bus drivers may be given about 'low bridges on your new route' if their duties are changed at such short notice?

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 21:18, 30th January 2013
 
I can now understand the used to single deck comments having seen a friends reaction earlier this evening. Not quite the same but I was passenger with a friend who was driving a high top transit, normally he uses a standard lower top transit. He took out the height restrictor bar at a fast food drive thru that his normal transit goes through daily. It took him a few seconds to realise what he'd just done and remember it was a high top transit. Can only imagine if someone is driving a single decker day in day out they would forget they are in a double decker if it isnt their normal bus

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by bobm at 23:24, 30th January 2013
 
I'm interested as to what reminders bus drivers may be given about 'low bridges on your new route' if their duties are changed at such short notice?

For years there has been a sign telling bus drivers to avoid one of the notorious low bridges in Wokingham.  Although not that clear in this lift from Street View, this "hi-tech" sign and its red post have outlived the bus company which erected them by a good few years!


Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by trainer at 09:31, 31st January 2013
 
As Chris from Nailsea will know well, we have had a double-decker conversion under the low bridge at Nailsea and Backwell Station and that was with a driver 'off route' coming from/to the depot (can't remember which the other bus driver told me), so no specific warning would have been given. I think this is what usually happens in these cases unless a lax inspector (do they still have such things?) sends out the wrong vehicle for the route. In the end, I'm afraid, as with lorries, the driver needs to know his/her vehicle.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by GBM at 10:17, 31st January 2013
 
Drivers know which routes low bridges are on, and the route taken ensures a collision doesn't happen. Routes are generally planned to avoid low bridges with any vehicle.
However, a single decker will be swapped for a double, and control should inform the driver to change route because of a low bridge.
No radio's fitted to any of our vehicles, so everything is by your own mobile.
Company rules state these should be left in your locker before commencing work,  This then leaves you without communication in case of a problem...............
Control can be swamped on occasions, so they forget; the driver doesn't think ahead - errors occur.
Thank you Chris & richerwarwick. Yes, I am a driver, but forgot on one occasion (towards the end of a day) about a low bridge enroute as I had a decker.  Control advised me at a half way stop, so that village was bypassed, and the main road used.
Have heard of that happening to other drivers - either the driver reminded control, or they reminded the driver.
Diversion routes are always planned by the managers going out before and checking for vehicle suitability.  We are then supposed to be route trained to gain route familiarity.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by trainer at 13:12, 31st January 2013
 
That's a really interesting contribution, GBM and two points leap out at me.  Firstly, unlike the railways where vehicles are restricted to specific routes, a bus company can swap a saloon (single decker) for a (double) decker on a route that has low bridges.  This cannot be a good idea when (my second point) communication with drivers is not only not provided but seems to be forbidden.  In terms of Risk Assessment, both these items seem to count negatively.  I can quite imagine driving a familiar route on service and forgetting in the stress of everyday events that the roof is several metres above where it has been for months past.  Perhaps on reflection, to my comment about the driver knowing the vehicle I must add that Control and above them, Management must bare some responsibility as well for the systems in place which may cause confusion and therefore add to risk.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by GBM at 13:19, 31st January 2013
 
Slight clarification, perhaps required.
Yes, vehicles are regularly changed (single for double & v.v), and a double can end up on a low bridge route.  But it needs to be divered (or changed to a single) at the depot stop midway.
Agreed, not entirely the drivers fault, but the subsequent inquiry will blame the driver who will invariably be changing companies in the very near future!
Also we have several different height double deckers, something a driver needs to be aware of as well.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:33, 31st January 2013
 
As Chris from Nailsea will know well, we have had a double-decker conversion under the low bridge at Nailsea and Backwell Station and that was with a driver 'off route' coming from/to the depot (can't remember which the other bus driver told me), so no specific warning would have been given.

Indeed - we discussed it here, and The Post (Bristol) provided some pictures.

A couple of points, though: the driver involved in that particular incident was apparently Polish, so maybe he didn't understand the signs, and his attempt was relatively amateurish - superficial damage to the front of the bus, rather than a complete removal of the roof!   

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by trainer at 13:06, 1st February 2013
 
I see what you mean, Chris.  You need a really good run at it to do the job properly and the bend in the road is a bit unhelpful in this respect.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by TonyK at 21:52, 8th February 2013
 
At an airfield I knew, there were only two recorded accidents. In the first, a pilot who had recently qualified to fly twin-engined aircraft with retractable gear forgot to put the gear down. Having scraped the belly on the runway, he realised his mistake, applied full power, took off, flew the circuit and came back to a flawless landing, with unfortunately for him, too much damage to hide, but not fatal to pilot nor aircraft.

The second accident occurred a few weeks later, when the same pilot, on a check flight accompanied by an instructor, set off to prove he could manage it. On the downwind leg, he went through the checklist - Brakes Off, Undercarriage Down, Mixture Rich etc - then touched down without having lowered the undercarriage. The blame that time was placed upon the instructor, who watched him sing the song without doing the actions.

The point being that there is no way in the world that you can ever guarantee that someone will never drive a double decker under a single decker bridge unless you put in place foolproof infrastructure. Which some fool will ignore.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:10, 8th February 2013
 
It is impossible to make anything fool-proof because fools are so ingenious. 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:49, 9th March 2013
 
From the Dover Express:

Investigation launched after double-decker railway smash

Bus bosses are investigating after a double-decker smashed into a railway bridge last week.

A dog-walker who was half a mile away said he heard an "almighty crash" as the top deck crumpled outside Kearsney railway station.


DECKED: A bus has its top knocked off after crashing into a rail bridge Picture by Stephen Davies

Police were called to deal with the ensuing traffic chaos as the Alkham Valley Road was closed during Thursday morning rush hour.

Stephen Davies was walking his lurcher, Gracie, in Kearsney Abbey at around 8.45am when they were both startled by "a big, loud, metallic bang".

The owner of The Accommodation Shop, in Dover, said: "I thought 'Oh, that doesn't sound good'."

The road was blocked by the wreckage when Mr Davies tried to drive back to Dover. He said: "I got out of the car and had a stroll up. He'd taken half the roof off. Someone would have been seriously injured if there were punters on board."

A spokesman for Kent Police said the "shaken" bus driver was breathalysed but recorded a negative result.

The driver of the number 15 bus had taken a wrong turning on the way to the start of the day's service on February 28. He took the 15b single-decker route, which passes under the rail bridge. The 15 should remain on London Road rather than turning off at Crabble Road on the way to Deal or Canterbury.

A spokesman for Stagecoach described the damage to the bus as "significant" and said: "Safety is our top priority and we have launched an investigation into the incident."

Stagecoach refused to comment on whether any disciplinary action was being taken against the driver.

The Southeastern rail service to London Victoria returned to normal speed at 10.20am after inspectors found no faults or structural damage to the bridge at Kearsney.

A spokesman for Network Rail said: "The low headroom sign needs to be replaced."

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 21:53, 9th March 2013
 
From that picture doesnt look like he was only marginally too tall. Has the road been resurfaced lately, as that often catches drivers out of marginal vehicles, although signs legally have to show the maximum height as 6 inches less that the actual available.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 22:44, 9th March 2013
 
The facts that the driver took a wrong turn and that the bus route under the bridge is operated by single deckers is enough evidence, as far as I'm concerned, that double deckers are too tall for that bridge.

I note that it is another Volvo Olympian with Northern Counties Palatine body that has been scalped. It's probably their ubiquity, but this bus type is over represented in the bridge bash statistics, if this thread is any indicator.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:56, 16th May 2013
 
From the BBC:

Chelmsford bus has roof shorn off under bridge


The crash affected rail services which use the bridge

A double-decker bus had its roof completely shorn off when it hit a railway bridge in Essex.

The Regal Busways bus struck the bridge in Duke Street, Chelmsford, at 16:30 BST on Thursday.

Essex Police said officers attended, along with an ambulance, but nobody was injured. The road was closed for a time but opened shortly after.

Essex Fire and Rescue said its firefighters attended the scene but took no action.

Greater Anglia train services were disrupted for a short time but have since returned to normal.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 01:21, 17th May 2013
 
Nice to see an Alexander ALX400 Dennis Trident having been scalped for a change.

Makes a change from a Northern Counties Palatine Volvo Olympian. 

Can't quite fathom why the picture that accompanies the article has had the operator name/logo pixelated though. The BBC tell us it is Regal Busways. Why censor the image?

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by devon_metro at 12:23, 17th May 2013
 
Nice to see an Alexander ALX400 Dennis Trident having been scalped for a change.

Makes a change from a Northern Counties Palatine Volvo Olympian. 

Can't quite fathom why the picture that accompanies the article has had the operator name/logo pixelated though. The BBC tell us it is Regal Busways. Why censor the image?

The image comes from the fire service, perhaps the bus company asked them to pixelate their logo?

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:50, 17th May 2013
 
... or the fire service didn't want to show any commercial logo in their photo? 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Brucey at 17:30, 27th July 2013
 
Another open top bus conversion, this time in Stockport: http://news.sky.com/story/1121181/bus-roof-ripped-off-after-hitting-railway-bridge

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:21, 24th August 2013
 
Details of two more incidents ... 

From the BBC:

Rail bridge rips top off school bus near Dalry


No children were on board when the incident took place

A school bus has had its roof ripped off after passing under a railway bridge in North Ayrshire. No school children were on board the double-decker when the incident took place on the A737, near Dalry, at about 07:35 on Thursday.

A spokeswoman for Police Scotland said the driver of the bus was not injured. She said the road was closed until 09:20 to allow for the damaged bus to be removed and a clean-up operation to be completed.

Also from the BBC:

Westbourne mechanic gets bus wedged under bridge


Yellow Buses said the vehicle was not using one of its usual routes

A mechanic has been suspended after taking a double-decker bus for a test drive and getting it wedged under a railway bridge.

Traffic had to be diverted for more than an hour while the tyres were deflated and the bus recovered, in Prince of Wales Road, Westbourne.

No passengers were on board and the driver was unhurt.

Yellow Buses said the vehicle was on a road test on Thursday and was not using one of its usual routes.

Jenni Wilkinson, head of marketing, said: "The bus involved was not in service. An engineer has been suspended while an internal investigation is carried out."

A structural engineer assessed the bridge but rail services were unaffected.

Michael Waylett, from Westbourne, spotted the bus as he walked past the scene. He said: "It's obviously a bit of a silly thing to do. It doesn't make any sense to bring it down there. It's not a bus route so I don't know what it was doing, so it now makes sense that it was on a road test."

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:02, 21st October 2013
 
Another fairly neat job - this time from the St Albans & Harpenden Review:

Investigation underway into Harpenden railway bus crash



An investigation is underway after a double-decker bus crashed into a railway bridge in Harpenden this morning.

A spokesman for Uno confirmed they would be speaking to the driver as to why he was covering the wrong route, which caused the roof of the bus to be ripped off after it smashed into the railway bridge in Station Road at 8.30am this morning.

The bus has now been removed and the road has been reopened. There were no injuries as a result of the incident and the bus was empty at the time

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Brucey at 16:07, 23rd December 2013
 
A London United bus will be finding it's way into tourist service rather soon.  From the BBC.
: BBC News
A bus has been damaged after taking a wrong turn and hitting a railway bridge in south-west London.

The 131 double-decker bus was out of service when the collision happened at 13:00 GMT on Coombe Road in Kingston.

Transport for London (TfL) said there were no passengers on board the bus and no reported injuries.

Alex Whitman, who saw the aftermath of the crash, said: "I was quite shocked. It's one of those things you don't expect to see."

Mike Weston, TfL's Director of Buses, said: "The bridge was not damaged and rail services are unaffected.

"There were no injuries and the incident will be fully investigated."

The road has been closed in both directions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25496956

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 17:16, 23rd December 2013
 
Accompanying picture from the BBC article:



That's a pretty comprehensive de-roofing.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 03:30, 24th December 2013
 
I'd give that a seven out of ten.

This latest one just doesn't have the pure artistry of a complete removal of the roof in one piece: nor does it have the result of the upper floor seats all being left apparently unscathed.

For my favourite contender, to date, see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6748.msg132997#msg132997 


Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 10:54, 24th December 2013
 
I'd give that a seven out of ten.

This latest one just doesn't have the pure artistry of a complete removal of the roof in one piece: nor does it have the result of the upper floor seats all being left apparently unscathed.

For my favourite contender, to date, see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6748.msg132997#msg132997 



The link is going to a post in the middle of the Kearsney and Chelmsford posts, I'm assuming Chelmsford though as that looks pretty impressive and a tidy job done!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by bobm at 08:27, 17th March 2014
 
Another one - this time near Cheltenham.

From the Gloucestershire Echo



A double decker bus has collided with a bridge in Hyde Lane, Cheltenham, this morning.
 
The road is blocked in both directions and police are on the scene.
 
The bridge is close to the junction with Wymans Lane and Church Road.
 
Philip Green, who lives in Hyde Lane, was walking his dog and was under the bridge when the accident happened.
 
The Swanbrook bus was driving from Swindon Village towards Bishop's Cleeve and it hit the brudge,
 
The top of the bus was sliced off in the crash.
 
Mr Greensaid: "It showered me with debris. It could have killed me. I've never walked so close to death. I escaped death by inches."
 
Mr Green was taken to hospital by paramedics.
 
There are two ambulance, two police cars at the scene and the road remains closed.
 
A shaken Harriet Tweddle, said: "I was standing waiting for the bus. I saw the bus come down and I thought he's not going to make it. There was a hell of a noise and I ran over to see if anyone was hurt.
 
"It was only the driver. He was shaken and rather embarrassed and I stayed with Philip."
 
Richard Webb, 23, said: "The bus driver said he forgot it was a single-decker."


Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by GBM at 08:39, 17th March 2014
 
Another one - this time near Cheltenham.

From the Gloucestershire Echo

Sympathy to all involved, but especially to the driver.
So easily done (especially in our part of the world), so many things to think about all the time, with constant distractions.
 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by stuving at 10:00, 17th March 2014
 
Isn't it odd how a short item like that can contain a whole miniature detective puzzle.

Take the final quote - "The bus driver said he forgot it was a single-decker." Of course that may be wrong, especially as it is a second-hand quote. But assuming the quote is right, "it" can't be the bus he was driving. If he was in the right bus but on the wrong road, he would not have said that. So, logically, he must have been in the wrong bus - "it" being the single-decker he should have driven. If the wrong bus was scheduled by someone else, again his words are inappropriate. So either he scheduled the buses as well as driving this one (not impossible in a small company like this) or he took the wrong one out of the yard!

Then consider the other quote - "I was standing waiting for the bus. I saw the bus come down and I thought he's not going to make it." Was she waiting for this bus, or another one? Her words are only natural as given if it was this bus, though they may have been "tidied up". There does not seem to be a Swanbrook route here, nor a bus stop just after the bridge - though, again, the on-line data on this could be wrong (e.g. out of date). But, excepting such errors, she was waiting for this contract bus (a school bus, probably) just after the bridge. But why was the bus empty? If it had already called at Swindon Village and was going to Bishop's Cleeve that makes no sense. So it must have really been going somewhere else, or for some other purpose. Or, if she was waiting for another bus but before the bridge, and saw it "come down" the road towards her, would she have said that?

Raises more questions than it answers, really.


Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 10:04, 17th March 2014
 
Also, what's a 'brudge'? 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by bobm at 10:10, 17th March 2014
 
..and I was going to commend the Gloucestershire Echo for getting the story on line, with a picture, within an hour of it happening.   Perhaps I won't now.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Red Squirrel at 10:44, 17th March 2014
 
Also, what's a 'brudge'? 

I'm not one to gear one, as the Speverant Rooner once said.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by stuving at 11:16, 17th March 2014
 
..and I was going to commend the Gloucestershire Echo for getting the story on line, with a picture, within an hour of it happening.   Perhaps I won't now.

In case you think I'm celebrating "let's be mean to local journalists week", I do realise that these operations work with pretty low staff levels, so they are expected not only to be quick but to churn out lots of the stuff. So if I say they obviously don't read what they have written, that's no more than a mild criticism. And it's nothing new, after all.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by bobm at 12:23, 17th March 2014
 
Not at all stuving.  As a journalist (although never in local newspapers), I'm one of the first to criticise poor writing.  I was once chastised for putting out a story about an accident involving "a concrete lorry" when it should have been "a lorry carrying concrete". 

Meanwhile my monthly favourite is when journalists write "Inflation has gone up this month"... well yes it always will.  It is the rate of inflation we should be talking about.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 13:37, 17th March 2014
 
I was once chastised for putting out a story about an accident involving "a concrete lorry" when it should have been "a lorry carrying concrete".

Not one of these then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bison_concrete_armoured_lorry

 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by chuffed at 14:13, 17th March 2014
 
The windows on the rear trailer are the correction position for eyes, while the blue bit of camouflage  reminds me of a prominent protuberant proboscis......

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 17:46, 17th March 2014
 
Isn't it odd how a short item like that can contain a whole miniature detective puzzle.

Take the final quote - "The bus driver said he forgot it was a single-decker."


I assume they missed the word "not"

However now it is a single decker!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 18:53, 17th March 2014
 
Not at all stuving.  As a journalist (although never in local newspapers), I'm one of the first to criticise poor writing.  I was once chastised for putting out a story about an accident involving "a concrete lorry" when it should have been "a lorry carrying concrete". 
Likewise, you shouldn't talk about "bus shelters" - they are of course "bus passenger shelters".

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by grahame at 19:11, 17th March 2014
 
Likewise, you shouldn't talk about "bus shelters" - they are of course "bus passenger shelters".

Yes, this is a bus shelter (with a bus or two in it!) ...



Thanks to Matthew Black from London, UK - Reproduced under Creative Commons license.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:London_General_buses_in_Stockwell_bus_garage,_July_2003.jpg

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:27, 17th March 2014
 
Further pictures of the latest incident, from the BBC:

Cheltenham bus roof ripped off in bridge crash


The crash on Hyde Lane happened at 07:10 GMT

A double-decker bus has had its roof completely ripped off after being driven under a bridge in Cheltenham.

No passengers were on board the vehicle and the driver escaped uninjured from the crash which happened at 07:10 GMT.

As a result, Hyde Lane has been shut in both directions and will remain closed until debris has been cleared away.

The bus operator Swanbrook runs several services throughout the county, including commercial ventures and special services for schools.


There were no passengers on board the Swanbrook bus

On the Chris from Nailsea scale of points awarded for neatness and completeness, I think this merits an eight out of ten: the rear panel being left attached has unfortunately rather spoiled the artistic impression of the work. 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by stuving at 19:58, 17th March 2014
 
I assume they missed the word "not"

Apparently so - or maybe the middle got left out of the sentence in haste. There's now an expanded version of the Gloucester Echo piece (same link). The bus was running empty to Bishop Cleeve for a school run, and Ms T was waiting for another bus.

Credit is due at least for choosing a time when there were no passengers on board.

I rather liked this bit of the new text:

Residents in the area said that it was quite a common experience to hear vehicles strike the bridge.

Jane Smith, who lives right next door to the bridge said: "I heard the bang this morning, but I didn't look out. I hear something hitting the bridge all the time, and I just think "there's another one." It's not a rare occurrence at all."^


Are you paying enough attention, CfN?


(Edit by FT,N! to correct punctuation only)

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by grahame at 20:29, 28th April 2014
 
And another one out of gauge ... this time colliding with a railway station

http://metro.co.uk/2014/04/28/ukip-campaign-bus-collides-with-portsmouth-station-as-party-begins-election-campaign-4711694/?

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by trainer at 22:01, 28th April 2014
 
And another one out of gauge ... this time colliding with a railway station

http://metro.co.uk/2014/04/28/ukip-campaign-bus-collides-with-portsmouth-station-as-party-begins-election-campaign-4711694/?

I believe there are EU regs concerning double-decker buses.  I wonder if any of the hirers had access to them?

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by bobm at 22:05, 28th April 2014
 
And another one out of gauge ... this time colliding with a railway station

http://metro.co.uk/2014/04/28/ukip-campaign-bus-collides-with-portsmouth-station-as-party-begins-election-campaign-4711694/?

Not the first time UKIP have had problems with modes of transport.  Remember Election Day 2010?  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/northamptonshire/8664260.stm

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:07, 28th April 2014
 
I believe there are EU regs concerning double-decker buses.  I wonder if any of the hirers had access to them?

Ooh, mischievous! 

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 16:08, 2nd February 2015
 
From the BBC:

The bus was on Kingsway when it hit the overhanging branches

The roof of a bus has been ripped off after it hit overhanging trees in central London.

The number 91 bus hit the trees on Kingsway, near the London School of Economics (LSE) building, in Holborn.

London Ambulance Service said two people were taken to hospital with facial injuries. Two others were treated for minor injuries.

Kingsway has been closed between the Great Queen Street and A4 Aldwych junctions.


At the scene, London Fire Brigade station manager, Gary Squires, said: "Those involved were very lucky to escape serious injury."

LSE student Ethan Meade said he turned around when he heard a crash.

"I saw the roof fall down off the side of the bus and the glass shatter everywhere.

"The passengers seemed to be sitting there pretty stunned, as you'd expect. Police seemed to handle it very well."

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by chrisr_75 at 16:59, 2nd February 2015
 
Very good job of cleanly slicing the roof off and also very lucky no-one was seriously hurt.

The road sign in the first photo clearly states 'overhanging trees 2.5m'. I suspect the bus driver will be looking for a new job...

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by JayMac at 17:25, 2nd February 2015
 
From the Somerset County Gazette:

A BUS got stuck under the bridge near Taunton Railway Station this morning.



Mike Hollin took this picture of the stricken Buses of Somerset number 21 bus shortly before 7am.

According to reports from passers-by, the driver managed to free the vehicle a short time later.

Believe it or not, it^s not the first time this has happened ^ see here.

Most types of double decker will clear this bridge in Taunton, but not this particular Plaxton President bodied Dennis Trident. Which is a little strange as there are plenty of pictures online of similar Plaxton President buses on route 21. Here's the exact same bus on the same route earlier this year:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/93223521@N04/15157478146/

Riding too high on the adjustable air suspension perhaps?

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 18:41, 2nd February 2015
 
High on the suspension, or even over inflated tyres.

The clearance sign says 13'9. A standard height Plaxton President is 14'6, A Low height is 13'9 apparently so a low height should scrape through

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by broadgage at 19:24, 2nd February 2015
 
Indeed, and IIRC there are a number of similar signs on each side of the road. Before moving from London I frequently used buses along that road. I never went upstairs having observed numerous very near misses and several busses striking trees, though with less dramatic consequences than this time.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Brucey at 20:11, 2nd February 2015
 
Another conversion, this time in Central London.
London bus roof torn off after it hits trees

The roof of a bus has been ripped off after it hit overhanging trees in central London.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31097083

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by grahame at 21:41, 14th March 2015
 
next!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-doubledecker-bus-has-entire-roof-ripped-off-by-railway-bridge-10108592.html

Noting that it's hardly obvious from the bridge (in the background of the photos) that it's low  !!

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 22:42, 14th March 2015
 
next!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-doubledecker-bus-has-entire-roof-ripped-off-by-railway-bridge-10108592.html

Noting that it's hardly obvious from the bridge (in the background of the photos) that it's low  !!

It looks like it may be tight for a single decker.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by GBM at 07:07, 15th March 2015
 
My thoughts with the driver, and the subsequent inquiry. There but for the grace...........

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:18, 27th March 2015
 
From the BBC:

Roof ripped off Thorpe Park-bound school trip bus


The double-decker had been carrying 76 pupils on an end-of-term theme park trip

Eleven passengers have been taken to hospital after the top deck of a school bus was ripped off when it hit a railway bridge.

The double-decker had been carrying 76 pupils on an end-of-term theme park trip when it reportedly took a wrong turn in Staines, Surrey. It had been due to take the children to Thorpe Park, in Chertsey, when it crashed about two miles away.

None of the children on board the bus were seriously injured. However, South East Coast Ambulance Service reported one person with a suspected back injury and a further 10 with minor injuries were taken to local hospitals. A further 58 passengers were assessed and treated at the scene.

The bus had been carrying pupils from St John's School in Epping, Essex. A statement on the school's website said the trip had been a reward for pupils awarded a high number of house points.


The roof of the bus was left on the road behind the bridge

"We have spoken to a number of staff and we are able to confirm that there are no serious injuries although some students may have suffered some cuts and bruises," it said.

Reports of the crash, at the junction of Riverside Drive and Chertsey Lane, were first received just after 10:00 GMT, The road is expected to remain closed for a significant period of time and motorists have been advised to avoid the area if possible.

Bus owner Galleon Travel said it was arranging for return travel to the school for some children, while some parents had already collected pupils.


Surrey Police said the road was expected to be closed for some time


Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by TonyK at 23:12, 27th March 2015
 

Not the first time UKIP have had problems with modes of transport.  Remember Election Day 2010?  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/northamptonshire/8664260.stm

The report suggests, to me, pilot error as the primary cause. There is no reason to think that the type of aircraft was at fault - Polish Wilgas are robust and simple. The irony doesn't escape me.

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by LiskeardRich at 20:26, 19th April 2015
 
From the BBC:

A double-decker bus struck a tree and lost its roof in Bristol injuring 18 people, seven of whom were taken to hospital.

Crews were called to Fishponds Road following the accident involving the 342 service just after 07:40 BST.

Great Western Ambulance Service said those injured mainly had head injuries, but none was seriously hurt.

The busy road was closed for several hours but reopened just before 12:00 BST.

Operator First Bus confirmed one of its fleet had been involved in the incident.



'Loud bang'

"The top of the double-decker bus was in collision with some tree branches which were hanging over the road," a First Bus spokeswoman said. "The bus was in service at the time, with a number of passengers on board. Our teams are on the scene and are working with the relevant authorities to determine exactly what has happened. Our thoughts are currently with those people who were on the bus at the time of the incident and their friends and family."

Jonathan Pomeyie, who lives nearby, said he had been at the back of his house making a cup of tea when he heard a loud bang.

"It was a very deep impact type of sound, like an explosion. At first I wasn't too sure what it was. I [later] got a phone call from one of my friends who said there had been a bus accident so I looked out of a window to see if there were any delays to the traffic. I saw police, paramedics and firemen everywhere. It was a horrid and unbelievable sight to wake up to."



In the interests of continuity, this one now looks like this, and lives in Cornwall. It is intended for the new Falmouth Open Top service. Seen at Penzance running day.

V124LGC by Rich.W., on Flickr

Re: Various 'open-top bus conversion' incidents, usually involving railway bridges
Posted by Palfers at 20:36, 19th April 2015
 
From the BBC:

A double-decker bus struck a tree and lost its roof in Bristol injuring 18 people, seven of whom were taken to hospital.

Crews were called to Fishponds Road following the accident involving the 342 service just after 07:40 BST.

Great Western Ambulance Service said those injured mainly had head injuries, but none was seriously hurt.

The busy road was closed for several hours but reopened just before 12:00 BST.

Operator First Bus confirmed one of its fleet had been involved in the incident.



'Loud bang'

"The top of the double-decker bus was in collision with some tree branches which were hanging over the road," a First Bus spokeswoman said. "The bus was in service at the time, with a number of passengers on board. Our teams are on the scene and are working with the relevant authorities to determine exactly what has happened. Our thoughts are currently with those people who were on the bus at the time of the incident and their friends and family."

Jonathan Pomeyie, who lives nearby, said he had been at the back of his house making a cup of tea when he heard a loud bang.

"It was a very deep impact type of sound, like an explosion. At first I wasn't too sure what it was. I [later] got a phone call from one of my friends who said there had been a bus accident so I looked out of a window to see if there were any delays to the traffic. I saw police, paramedics and firemen everywhere. It was a horrid and unbelievable sight to wake up to."



In the interests of continuity, this one now looks like this, and lives in Cornwall. It is intended for the new Falmouth Open Top service. Seen at Penzance running day.

V124LGC by Rich.W., on Flickr


We had that bus back to Camborne this evening oh why oh why did I sit up top lol I'm still trying to warm up now!

 
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Although we are planning ahead, we don't know what the future will bring here in the Coffee Shop. We have domains "firstgreatwestern.info" for w-a-y back and also "greatwesternrailway.info"; we can also answer to "greatbritishrailways.info" too. For the future, information about Great Brisish Railways, by customers and for customers.
 
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