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Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367538/30990/28]
Posted by TonyN at 21:15, 28th October 2025
 
18, Newquay Harbour tramway

Re: Car headlights to be reviewed after drivers complain of being 'blinded' at night
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [367537/30992/31]
Posted by Marlburian at 20:34, 28th October 2025
 
My modest Vauxhall Corsa and my last car, an equally modest Ford Fiesta, both had switches to adjust the level of the headlights depending on the load, such as passengers in the rear seats.  (Quite how they would fit into them I don't know but ...) I suspect  that most drivers don't bother.

And that doesn't help when oncoming cars go over speed bumps.  On Sunday I drove up one hill with eight such bumps in daytime and was still conscious of the running lights of oncoming cars "jumping up".

Re: Ad for... would it be table 51 ... 1970s
In "Cross Country services" [367536/30936/43]
Posted by Clan Line at 20:01, 28th October 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Table 51 !! That brings back memories from the 70s. The 10:00 from Glasgow to Euston (always second sitting for lunch) and the Sleeper from Glasgow to Bristol are the ones that stick in my memory.

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367535/30990/28]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 19:54, 28th October 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
If it *is* Coryton, isn't it a singular example as the onward line at its extremity is in the 'Built but the junction to its destination never brought into use?

Cardiff Railway, and I believe only one train ever made the connection to the Taff Valley?, but in only one direction. The huge iron viaduct was scrapped during the War.

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367534/30990/28]
Posted by grahame at 19:37, 28th October 2025
 
Lots of good, correct answers:

1. Hayling Island branch
CyclingSid, and with a fascinating insight
confirmed by eightonedee

2. Foxhangers on the Devizes line
Chris from Nailsea (K&A, line not identified)

3. Weymouth to Portland Line at Wyke Regis
eightonedee

4. Yarmouth IOW
Ray951

5. Yatton on the Strawberry Line
ChrisfN

6. Cortyon
MarkA - with an interesting example of a line buit and not used (my understanding is that it was used by a single train)

10. Hamble
Ray951
Interestimg further data from CyclingSid

11. Seend Cleeve, tramway to Seend Iron Works
bradshaw

12. Tramway - Caen Hill, Devizes
bradshaw - also noting tramway
Identified as Prison Bridge by Chris from Nailsea

13. Mangotsfield
chuffed

14. Near Midford, Somerset and Dorset
johnneyw, and yes it could make a useful part of the network

15. Ventnor
PhilWakely

16. Oxford - LNWR Station
ChrisB

20. Midland and South West Juntion towards Ludgershall
Kennet and Avon, yes CfN - but what line

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367533/30990/28]
Posted by bradshaw at 19:32, 28th October 2025
 
11 Seend Cleeve, tramway to Seend Iron Works

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367532/30990/28]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:11, 28th October 2025
 
20. Kennet and Avon Canal, again.

Re: Car headlights to be reviewed after drivers complain of being 'blinded' at night
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [367531/30992/31]
Posted by CyclingSid at 18:52, 28th October 2025
 
Interestingly there is a German standard for bicycle lamps:
StVZO bike lights are designed to conform to German Road Traffic Licensing Regulations, with a beam shaped to avoid dazzling other road users, but the safety standard may have benefits elsewhere in the world, too.

StVZO-compliant bike lights differ from other lights on the market in that they have a cut-off, which keeps the beam focused directly on the road ahead and, in theory, out of the eyes of other road users when cycling at night.

To which I would add maybe it would be a benefit for application to other road vehicles. Bicycle lamps in this country seem to sold on how many lux, doesn't seem to matter if is being wasted illumination to trees, walls, roofs or sky etc.

Re: Inline expansion of abbreviations and acronyms
In "News, Help and Assistance" [367530/24784/29]
Posted by Mark A at 18:51, 28th October 2025
 
Thanks for this, a really good explainer.

Mark

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367529/30990/28]
Posted by CyclingSid at 18:42, 28th October 2025
 
Hamble (No.10) was a freight only line. Built for the Hamble-le-Rice oil terminal. The oil terminal was fed from Fawley and Wytch Farm oil field (near Poole Harbour). There was also a connection to the Government Pipeline System. Distribution is now done by road tanker.

Hamble station on the Southampton to Fareham line is still open for passenger traffic, allowing for the fact that it not near the centre of population.

Re: Inline expansion of abbreviations and acronyms
In "News, Help and Assistance" [367528/24784/29]
Posted by stuving at 18:35, 28th October 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Ah, finding these now in a UK rail forum thread: in this context ATS turns out to be 'Auto Transformer Site'

SATS is 'Sectioning Auto Transformer Site'

Another: MPATS? AKA 'Mid Point Auto Transformer Site' ...

Not found ATFS yet...

Mark
There's always Wikipedia - which has Autotransformer feeder station.

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367527/30990/28]
Posted by johnneyw at 18:31, 28th October 2025
 
14 reminds me of near Midford Station on the Two Tunnels path from Bath to Wellow.  The line could have been a useful contribution to our national rail network today had it survived.

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367526/30990/28]
Posted by eightonedee at 18:15, 28th October 2025
 
1 looks like the Hayling Island branch, and 3 looks like the Portland branch in Weymouth, coming up to Nothe Fort. 

(Sorry Sid - just seen you "got" Hayling already! I recall that there was a pub called "the Hayling Billy" on the island that had a Stroudley Terrier locomotive outside as an outsized pub sign for some years)

Re: Inline expansion of abbreviations and acronyms
In "News, Help and Assistance" [367525/24784/29]
Posted by Mark A at 18:08, 28th October 2025
 
Ah, finding these now in a UK rail forum thread: in this context ATS turns out to be 'Auto Transformer Site'

SATS is 'Sectioning Auto Transformer Site'

Another: MPATS? AKA 'Mid Point Auto Transformer Site' ...

Not found ATFS yet...

Mark

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [367524/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 18:03, 28th October 2025
 
15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Great Malvern.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:28/10/2025 14:35

15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 16 minutes late.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:28/10/2025 17:49
Departed +16, arrived Evesham +18, held there (+33).

18:02 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 20:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:28/10/2025 17:49
- and may well be late.


Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367523/30990/28]
Posted by Mark A at 17:53, 28th October 2025
 
If it *is* Coryton, isn't it a singular example as the onward line at its extremity is in the 'Built but the junction to its destination never brought into use?

Mark

Letter from our MP to GWR's MD
In "TransWilts line" [367522/30993/18]
Posted by grahame at 17:49, 28th October 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Oxonhutch, Timmer, Western Pathfinder, wiltshirebloke
 
Shared from Brian Mathew's Facebook post.





IMHO - a request that is very welcome, but which should not have been necessary.  It only asks GWR to provide what they should be providing as standard. 

We are very grateful to Brian for this letter. The ultimate objective has to be a usable train service to, from and through Melksham, and I hope that the letter can be shared both downward from the MD of GWR to ask his team to level up the playing field, and upwards to his masters at First Group and at the Department for Transport to provide him with any more tools and support the they need to help him make it happen.   

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367521/30990/28]
Posted by Mark A at 17:46, 28th October 2025
 
6 makes me think Coryton.

Mark

Re: Inline expansion of abbreviations and acronyms
In "News, Help and Assistance" [367520/24784/29]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:42, 28th October 2025
 
Not yet found a glossary for railway electrification terms. ATFS, SATS, ATS, TSS, anyone? (These all relating to lineside electrical installations for OHLE...)

With my thanks for your raising the issue, Mark, I have now reviewed and updated our Coffee Shop forum 'acronyms' page.

There was one I haven't added yet - simply because I couldn't find any independent source for it: 'ATFS'.

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367519/30990/28]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:23, 28th October 2025
 
I - intentionally - did not specify that, Chris ... these are much more difficult in the most part than the pictures of infrastructure still in use and if someone identified multiple ones, good luck to them.

Fair enough, grahame - I'll fire off another couple here, then:

5.  The Strawberry Line - now a cycle path - looking back towards Yatton station.

12.  Kennet and Avon Canal, Prison Bridge, Devizes (near Caen Hill, Seend and all that).

CfN.

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367518/30990/28]
Posted by chuffed at 17:15, 28th October 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
13. Mangotsfield ?

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367517/30990/28]
Posted by grahame at 17:03, 28th October 2025
 
Erm ... are we still working to the 'one suggestion only, for the first 24 hours, please' convention here?

CfN.



I - intentionally - did not specify that, Chris ... these are much more difficult in the most part than the pictures of infrastructure still in use and if someone identified multiple ones, good luck to them.

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367516/30990/28]
Posted by bradshaw at 17:03, 28th October 2025
 
12 old tramway route at Caen Flight, Devizes

Re: "Dear Sarah" - asking the agony aunt
In "Fare's Fair" [367515/30986/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:47, 28th October 2025
 
He gained money-wise when moving out to Swindon while still taking a London salary....now he faces at least a salary renegotiation in return for wfh/flexible working. Or as the Metro rightly says, finding a job nearer to home. Which is what we generally did not many years ago. Can't have it both ways. London salaries have always accepted that they need to be higher than the same position elsewhere owing o travel costs etc.

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367514/30990/28]
Posted by CyclingSid at 16:21, 28th October 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Much as many people would like it the bridge to Hayling Island (No.1) is unlikely to be ever rebuilt for a railway. I grew up on the island and we rarely used the railway. It was on "the wrong side of the island". There was a good local Southdown bus route on our side. Now 60 years on there is no railway, and no bus service on what was our side of the island. The roads are crammed, and beyond that on summer weekends. Mind you we could never really understand why people spent two or three hours queueing to get on the island, a couple of hours sitting on an oil polluted beach (local shops did a roaring trade selling bottles of oil remover). And then two or three hours queueing to get off the island, followed by the drive home to Reading or somewhere.

Car headlights to be reviewed after drivers complain of being 'blinded' at night
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [367513/30992/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:17, 28th October 2025
 
From the BBC:



Criticism from drivers over the dazzle from oncoming headlights has prompted the government to take a closer look at the design of cars and headlamps on UK roads.

Drivers say LED headlamps, which are increasingly common in new vehicles, are causing them problems and making it harder to drive at night.

Research into the issue on behalf of the Department for Transport (DfT) has still not been published, but the BBC has learned that the government now plans to launch a new assessment of the causes and remedies.

New measures will be included in the government's upcoming Road Safety Strategy, reflecting what is becoming an increasingly fraught issue for road users.

Both Ruth Goldsworthy and Sally Burt say bright headlights make it harder for them to get to their weekly SO Sound choir meetings in Totton, in Hampshire.

"Some of the lights are so bright you are blinded by them, for seconds," says Ruth.

The beam from LED headlights is whiter, more focused and brighter than the more diffuse light from halogen lamps fitted in older cars.

"I'm not sure where to look, I look into the gutter," says Sally. They are both relieved if someone else offers to drive.

Night driving becomes a bigger problem as the winter evenings draw in, and especially after the clocks change, which means more people are driving in the dark.

(BBC article continues)


Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367512/30990/28]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:01, 28th October 2025
 
Erm ... are we still working to the 'one suggestion only, for the first 24 hours, please' convention here?

CfN.


Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367511/30990/28]
Posted by ray951 at 15:33, 28th October 2025
 
10. Hamble.

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367510/30990/28]
Posted by ray951 at 15:32, 28th October 2025
 
4. Yarmouth, IOW

Re: Mostly the South West. Disused Railways. Which should still be here today?
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [367509/30990/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 15:28, 28th October 2025
 
16. Oxford Swing Bridge

 
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