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1.5.2025 (Thursday) 08:47 - All running AOK
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Steam excursion - except there's much more diesel than steam!
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [361093/30223/47]
Posted by grahame at 08:34, 1st May 2025
 
https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2025/05/steam-locomotive-34046-braunton-to-pass-through-dawlish-this-saturday.html

The tour starts with a diesel locomotive at Poole, where it will depart at 06:34. The train will then pass through Bournemouth (06:47), Brockenhurst (07:17), Southampton Central (07:40), Eastleigh (07:56), Salisbury (08:50), Warminster (09:16), Westbury (09:25) and Taunton at 10:23, where 34046 Braunton is attached.

With 34046 now on the front of the train, 34046 Braunton will pass through Tiverton Parkway (11:15), Dawlish Warren (11:52), Dawlish (12:10), Newton Abbot (12:16), Paignton (12:34) and Kingswear at 13:15.

[personal opinion piece] So that's about 4 hours behind a diesel, half an hour for a loco change, an hour and a quarter behind a steam engine on the main line, then a final section on a heritage line where you could travel behind a steam engine anyway.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [361091/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 07:20, 1st May 2025
 
Hold it!

06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47

Facilities on the 06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47.
Toilet facilities are not available. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.

Opportunities if the train is running to time, you have ...
1 minute (no chance!) at Westbury
7 minutes at Swindon (*)
9 minutes at Gloucester (*)
17 minutes at Worcester Shrub Hill
* - Train calls at platform away from station building

Re: Collision between two trains at Llanbrynmair, in Powys, Wales - 21 October 2024
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361090/29345/51]
Posted by stuving at 21:59, 30th April 2025
 
RAIB have published an interim report on this accident. It provides a lot more detail than the initial press statement, but is mostly about the same topics. As an interim report, there is no attempt to draw conclusions.

Re: Cash payments for transport services
In "Fare's Fair" [361089/30218/4]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 21:08, 30th April 2025
Already liked by Timmer
 
As a now ex bus driver, most of us hated cash!
Have to pay in the exact amount every night when your shift ends.
A large queue at the paying in machine many times.
On some very popular summer routes, a driver could easily pay in upwards of £500, frequently £750 plus.
Drivers didn't get paid overtime for paying in such amounts.
A few of us claimed!

They do where I am now, we can claim to the time printed on our paying in receipt. I only bother if it’s over a certain number of minutes late. It isn’t worth messing around for 1-2 minutes, especially as another day I could have a quick escape and get home a few minutes early. I run a tally in my head and know I roughly break even over a month if I didn’t claim until I hit my figure of lateness.

We can go days without seeing any cash on the main service I drive, then have a shift with loads of cash. Funny old world. Unpredictable.

Re: Station car parks full.
In "Across the West" [361088/30220/26]
Posted by Timmer at 20:04, 30th April 2025
 
Okehampton stn car park (about 70 spaces) is regularly full, with people parking nearby and for free.
That used to happen in Westbury. Not anymore since the double yellow lines appeared for quite a wide radius away from the station.

Re: Brighton Belle - merged topics
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [361087/20826/47]
Posted by grahame at 19:55, 30th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Nearly 3 years since anything posted on this thread - I understand that we are getting near(er) to having a 4BEL unit running - all be it really the old passenger accommodation of the generation of trains that the 5BEL belonged to with railway equipment from the following generation.  I still look forward to a ride some time.

Re: Cash payments for transport services
In "Fare's Fair" [361085/30218/4]
Posted by grahame at 19:26, 30th April 2025
 
Isn’t this about whether the Government should compel businesses to accept cash?

[snip]

As GBM points out, handling cash is inconvenient and expensive.

I started this as a poll to get a wide range of views.   Undoubtedly cash is messy to handle and yet where I see businesses and their staff grumbling about it, part of me feel "yes - but services should be about what the service user - the customers - wants and needs, and not about the convenience to the staff".  The other part of me sees those extra delay seconds on buses (especially) where the customer joining does a slower cash-and-change transaction and other customer sit patiently waiting.

Question - did I see that on the Valley lines in South Wales, the corner stores near to some (smaller?) stations will sell you a ticket for cash, but it won't be accepted on the tram/train or with machines at the station?

A parallel - for user group(s) - (MTUG, WWRUG, TWSW, etc) should we accept that some members are not online and correspond with them in print rather than through email?  How about people who want to join and can't because of some personal limitation?  How about people who have chosen not to be online? How about people who are taking a principled stand against everything being done through a computer?

No answer from me, here ... I have voted that cash should be accepted though with some exceptions.  And what are those suggestions?   I would suggest journeys that require formal ID - such as Eurostar, and journeys that are made for purely leisure purposes outside the normal transportation needs.   So heritage railways, coach excursions, the runaway mine train at Alton Towers, mail rail, and Great Britain XVII are exempt from accepting cash. 

Re: Warmest day of year as UK temperature hits 24.9C - April 2025
In "Across the West" [361084/30215/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:20, 30th April 2025
 
Easy for you to say. 

Re: Cash payments for transport services
In "Fare's Fair" [361083/30218/4]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 18:53, 30th April 2025
 
Isn’t this about whether the Government should compel businesses to accept cash? It’s not the Government that’s killing cash, it’s businesses and their customers.

As GBM points out, handling cash is inconvenient and expensive. The Government may try to protect it, but it may well be a losing battle.

Re: Station car parks full.
In "Across the West" [361082/30220/26]
Posted by grahame at 18:18, 30th April 2025
 
Resurfacing or a storage compound for other works reducing the number of spaces?  Last time I was there Tiverton Parkway had several large car parks and it's hard to imagine them all full, though Google maps shows one as "Permanently Closed" which may explain things.

Weren't there planning problems at Tiverton Parkway - extra car parks laid when the sea wall was closed, and well used, but they were only temporary and had to be closed once the sea wall was open again.   Or was I dreaming when I heard that one?

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [361081/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:47, 30th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
........for future reference, a warm (26°) sunny Spring day now apparently constitutes "severe weather" for the purposes of the railway.

Customers on platform/concourse utterly incredulous (especially those from genuinely hot countries struggling to get to Heathrow) when the announcement was made.

Kudos to rail staff who were advising people of this dramatic meteorological phenomenon and managed to keep a straight face.

Re: Station car parks full.
In "Across the West" [361080/30220/26]
Posted by AMLAG at 17:47, 30th April 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 

Okehampton stn car park (about 70 spaces) is regularly full, with people parking nearby and for free.
But this is good and is what was hoped for and gives further justification for the new Okehampton Parkway, sorry Interchange, station.

Re: Station car parks full.
In "Across the West" [361079/30220/26]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 15:57, 30th April 2025
 
Resurfacing or a storage compound for other works reducing the number of spaces?  Last time I was there Tiverton Parkway had several large car parks and it's hard to imagine them all full, though Google maps shows one as "Permanently Closed" which may explain things.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361077/29711/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 15:44, 30th April 2025
 
14:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:04 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Pershore and Worcestershire Parkway Hl.
This is due to a speed restriction because of high track temperatures


Re: Station car parks full.
In "Across the West" [361076/30220/26]
Posted by Timmer at 15:34, 30th April 2025
 
Westbury not surprised as on local groups the car park being full comes up as an issue from time to time despite its major extension a few years back.

But yes, a good thing to have on JourneyCheck if this is a new feature to highlight when station car parks are full.

Station car parks full.
In "Across the West" [361075/30220/26]
Posted by grahame at 15:26, 30th April 2025
 
Seasonal - or just something I haven't notice on JourneyCheck before?

Tiverton Parkway: Tiverton Parkway Car Park has been reported as Full. We apologise for the incon...

Westbury: Westbury Station Car Park is now full. We apologise for the inconvenience caused.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [361074/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:11, 30th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
First warm day of the year so of course the railway melts down........

Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to a speed restriction because of high track temperatures between London Paddington and Reading fewer trains are able to run.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 17:00 30/04.

Re: Delays because of a points failure between Bristol Parkway and Yate 30/04/2025
In "Cross Country services" [361073/30219/43]
Posted by ChrisB at 13:54, 30th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
"Hottest day of the year"

Delays because of a points failure between Bristol Parkway and Yate 30/04/2025
In "Cross Country services" [361072/30219/43]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 12:53, 30th April 2025
Already liked by trainbuff
 
Cancellations to services between Bristol Parkway and Yate
Due to a points failure between Bristol Parkway and Yate the line towards Gloucester is closed.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 14:00 30/04.
Customer Advice
We're sorry for any disruption this brings to your travel plans today.
Additional Information
Points allow trains to switch between different tracks. When points fail, some parts of the railway can become congested or even blocked. Points can fail due to many reasons, such as debris, cold weather, or even due to the fail-safe system activating.

Last Updated:30/04/2025 12:48

I guess this one will be disruptive.  I doubt it's happened because of "cold weather" though


Re: Cash payments for transport services
In "Fare's Fair" [361071/30218/4]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 11:19, 30th April 2025
Already liked by Mark A, broadgage, Timmer
 
Cash is important

Whatever your politics, everyone needs to be wary of those who seek to rule.  Maybe you're okay with the present government.  But it needs to be remembered that those we elect, if they were so minded, could introduce digital ID and/or a central bank digital currency.  It would be only a small step from there for a malign government to decide that, for example, you cant travel for more than 15 minutes from your home, or that your carbon allowance has already been used this month and you can't travel at all.

Fanciful?  Conspiracy theorist stuff?  Well, who would have foreseen that, just because Boris Johnson's government (and he one who purported to lean towards individual freedoms) told the nation to stay indoors for months except for "permitted purposes", there was almost universal meek compliance

Cash is important

The government has no right to decide how you should legally spend your legally gained earnings.  Giving up cash yields too much power to authority.


Re: Explanations - beginner's guides of why trains are not running to timetable
In "Introductions and chat" [361070/30217/1]
Posted by Mark A at 11:13, 30th April 2025
 
That made me laugh, thanks! I fear that what we'll get though is interminable repeats of an explanation that includes phrases like 'Track stones' - Network Rail's curious need to provide an expansion for the word 'Ballast'.

Mark

Re: Cash payments for transport services
In "Fare's Fair" [361069/30218/4]
Posted by Mark A at 11:08, 30th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, GBM
 
Driving the bus, managing the other traffic on the road, managing the public, dealing with cash transactions, handling a float, balancing the books and putting the takings into the system - and all that with little opportunity for physical exercise. One of society's more taxing jobs, and underappreciated too.

Mark

Re: Explanations - beginner's guides of why trains are not running to timetable
In "Introductions and chat" [361068/30217/1]
Posted by grahame at 11:07, 30th April 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Journeycheck's signal to noise ratio isn't good. It feels as though that approach risks boosting the noise.

Mark

I'm not suggesting it for every delay / change. No explanation needed - IMHO - as to what "train crew" are, and the explanations for why there aren't enough of them is a well played and worn record which would increase that ratio.

11:48 London Paddington to Carmarthen due 15:28 will be terminated at Swansea.

It will no longer call at Llanelli, Pembrey & Burry Port and Carmarthen.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: Longer distance canal walks - public transport for one way section returns
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [361067/30213/50]
Posted by Mark A at 10:56, 30th April 2025
 
It's the piers for the useful but closed rail line, part of the shortest route between London and the West Country, and which had at least one bridge of an uncommon design, not sure if the canal crossing's bridge was another, but the piers certainly got beefed up at some stage.

Mark

Re: Longer distance canal walks - public transport for one way section returns
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [361066/30213/50]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 10:41, 30th April 2025
 
I'm intrigued by the 3rd photo, which reminds me slightly of the intimidating anti-terrorist barriers we sadly see a lot of nowadays, here apparently intended to stop a large warship ramming the lock in the distance.  I'm guessing they are just some old and hard-to-remove bridge supports, though if the bridge was as substantial as the supports look then why is it no longer needed?

Re: Cash payments for transport services
In "Fare's Fair" [361065/30218/4]
Posted by GBM at 10:37, 30th April 2025
 
As a now ex bus driver, most of us hated cash!
Have to pay in the exact amount every night when your shift ends.
A large queue at the paying in machine many times.
On some very popular summer routes, a driver could easily pay in upwards of £500, frequently £750 plus.
Drivers didn't get paid overtime for paying in such amounts.
A few of us claimed!

Re: Cash payments for transport services
In "Fare's Fair" [361064/30218/4]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 10:31, 30th April 2025
 
Those that refuse cash shouldn't then be allowed to accept it during power outages - either you do or you don't, 100%. No changing to suit....but I voted that everyone should accept cash 100%
I suspect that other than very small outlets they would probably throw in the towel and shut up shop anyway.  Their stock control systems and tills would rely on that same power supply, few staff members would be able to add up prices in their head or even on paper, and they probably wouldn't have the capacity to store/bank large volumes of cash.  Then there's the lights and heating/cooling not working and so on.

 
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