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23.8.2025 (Saturday) 05:04 - All running AOK
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Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021
In "Across the West" [364577/24934/26]
Posted by stuving at 23:37, 22nd August 2025
 
Reminded me of the 23-car lash up through Tonbridge :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jta4c9FMmCA

Is there a theoretical maximum of IETs that can be coupled together?

Yes, as specified for passenger operation it's two units and 312 m - twelve vehicles. Given the unit lengths in existence that means only trains that actually operate now.

For ECS and rescue modes, twice that is allowed. That means any train operating now can rescue any other, but it does no have to haul anything longer than it is. Thus some theoretical possibilities such as 5+5+5+9 might be allowed as ECS, but not for rescue (i.e. with passengers on board the rescued train).

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364576/30593/26]
Posted by matth1j at 23:19, 22nd August 2025
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
Over on the YouTube channel GWR have released footage from the entire six and a bit hours of the record-breaking journey
https://youtu.be/wVdbl-tE8CA?si=1reOGALFSlAeYIA8

Re: Double-decker bus gets wedged under railway bridge - Chelmsford, 20 August 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [364575/30606/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:05, 22nd August 2025
 
... and that, M'Lud, concludes the case for the defence ...

 

Re: British Airways attendant found naked and on drugs in onboard toilet
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364574/30607/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:59, 22nd August 2025
 
How high can you go? 

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364573/30593/26]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 22:54, 22nd August 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
 Over on the YouTube channel GWR have released footage from the entire six and a bit hours of the record-breaking journey, haven't watched all of it as I do have a life but it's interesting in parts.

Re: Double-decker bus gets wedged under railway bridge - Chelmsford, 20 August 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [364572/30606/51]
Posted by froome at 22:49, 22nd August 2025
 
I have no local knowledge, but the bus appears to be in the middle of the carriageway, and as such, the driver would have assumed they were in the correct positioning for the arch. The pavement on the right appears to be much wider than that on the left, but the photo angle distorts the difference, so it may not be that great a difference, but presumably enough to lead to this outcome. In which case, I'm surprised that double deckers are allowed to go under the bridge.

Re: British Airways attendant found naked and on drugs in onboard toilet
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364571/30607/5]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 22:41, 22nd August 2025
 
So much for the High Life !.

Re: Bristol Airport - proposals for expansion and bus services - merged posts
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364570/22894/5]
Posted by TonyK at 22:24, 22nd August 2025
 
*Awaits thread drift into Caledonian Sleeper territory, and whether their arrangements for carrying firearms are still appropriate/fit for purpose.*

Mark

Not from me. If you can afford to go shooting with your royal cousins, and Lord Ivar was a cousin on both sides, you can at the very least afford a taxi from Uffculme to Dunkeswell for your matched Purdys, and a local pilot will be happy to fly them to Aberdeen in his PA28 or Cessna 172 for cost plus a few beers.

Although his Lordship no longer owns Bridwell Park, it remains a very pleasant place to visit, with the Orangery providing suitable refreshment.



Lord Ivar (left) with husband James in an apparent photoshop job, in front of the house at Bridwell Park.

Re: Twenty thousand - and counting ... Chris from Nailsea
In "Introductions and chat" [364568/30612/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:52, 22nd August 2025
 
Thanks, grahame. 

That is, if anything, even more embarrassing. 

CfN. 

Re: Twenty thousand - and counting ... Chris from Nailsea
In "Introductions and chat" [364566/30612/1]
Posted by grahame at 21:34, 22nd August 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
It's not a competition, and indeed it's rather inadvertent - but I have now apparently posted over 20,000 items here on this Coffee Shop forum. 

May I offer my thanks to all of my readers for your continuing support and encouragement.

Chris. 

If the Coffee Shop were not virtual but a physical station, we would be in to be winners in the "World Cup of Stations" based on the positive difference it has brought to many of our lives.

P.S. - You have also started over 2,600 threads!

Twenty thousand - and counting ... Chris from Nailsea
In "Introductions and chat" [364565/30612/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:25, 22nd August 2025
Already liked by Timmer, Ollie
 
It's not a competition, and indeed it's rather inadvertent - but I have now apparently posted over 20,000 items here on this Coffee Shop forum. 

May I offer my thanks to all of my readers for your continuing support and encouragement.

Chris. 

Re: Double-decker bus gets wedged under railway bridge - Chelmsford, 20 August 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [364564/30606/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:58, 22nd August 2025
 
His / Her line manager will no doubt be having that discussion. 

Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021
In "Across the West" [364562/24934/26]
Posted by Fourbee at 20:21, 22nd August 2025
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Reminded me of the 23-car lash up through Tonbridge :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jta4c9FMmCA

Is there a theoretical maximum of IETs that can be coupled together?

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [364561/28982/26]
Posted by Mark A at 19:45, 22nd August 2025
 
It's a funny old argument from the railway, that. Is the practice of operating trains on a system with high fixed costs and then, as your trains are leased, you need to pitch provision at a level that on a daily basis is capacity constrained... is that an an approach that's laced with unintended consequences?

Mark

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [364560/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 19:39, 22nd August 2025
 
OK, it's a long time ago, but I visited Torbay a lot from 1999 to 2005 and services to Exmouth were notorious for being overcrowded, especially during term-time.

Back then there was mainly an hourly service from Paignton to Exmouth. The half hour service to Exmouth by a Barnstaple- Exmouth train. There were extra trains in the rush hour. Oddly the Torre return school traffic was served by a Paignton-London HST stopping there

The big change for Paignton was when an additional shuttle was added between Paignton and Newton Abbot funded by the European Union and marked as such in the timetable to make a half hour service between peak.

These trains were taken over by GWR as passenger numbers increased to make a half hour Paignton-Exmouth service viable by stopping the Barnstaple train at Exeter St James then running to the reversing siding. This didn't last long (3 months?) as it was not a safe to terminate a train there and Exeter Central became the tipping out point, then empty to Exmouth Junction siding (now called East siding).

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [364557/28982/26]
Posted by grahame at 19:10, 22nd August 2025
 
...  I remember back at about the time this forum started, an FGW manager who had transferred from Wessex Trains explained to me the very high cost of adding a carriage to a peak train for just a single morning journey when declining for FGW to do anything to alleviate the problem.  Bad old days, perhaps ...

HISTORIC - but thinking back and to inform discussion, this was the logic:

If it costs £100,000 to hire a carriage for a year and it's only needed (was the case in 2006) for the 12 minutes from Keynsham into Temple Meads on 240 days per annum, it has to generete an extra income of £416 per day. At the fares of the time that worked out as over 100 extra fares to be collected from people who would not otherwise have travelled. FGW as it was believed that whilst they would lose some passengers due to overcrowding, it was far short of 100 every day.

Re: Travellers warned of bank holiday road and rail delays - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364556/30598/26]
Posted by grahame at 18:54, 22nd August 2025
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The Leamington to Coventry line... I'm trying to recall if it went out of use completely before being brought into use for crosscountry services needing Birmingham International.

Wikipedia (the Kenilworth Station page) tells us:

Passenger services were withdrawn from the line on 18 January 1965 as a result of the Reshaping of British Railways report, and the station was closed, although the line remained open for goods traffic. The cut-off line to Berkswell was closed in 1969, and much of the remaining line was singled during 1972, although some double track was retained through Kenilworth to form a passing loop a short distance north of the station site. Passenger services over the line were restarted in 1977, but as these were long distance, and not local services the station was not reopened[at that time]

The Coventry to Nuneaton section also has its passenger services withdrawn and later re-instated - again, WikiPedia, this time on Bedworth

On 18 January 1965 British Railways (BR) withdrew passenger services from the line and closed Bedworth station, along with all of the other intermediate stations on the line. BR resumed passenger services on the line in 1987 and reopened Bedworth station in 1988.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364555/30593/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:36, 22nd August 2025
 

Readers of Harry Potter will know this would have been Dementors

200 miles on a rattly old D-set at 30 mph would have been enough to suck the soul out of anyone


Thank you for posting that - it made my day! 

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [364554/28982/26]
Posted by John D at 18:34, 22nd August 2025
 

I recall commenting that a 2-carriage train full to bursting with angry passengers is more profitable/sustainable than a three carriage train with everyone having a seat.

 

Does that still apply, as nowadays if can't get on, can claim delay repay if delayed (or do they not take the cost of delays into account).

I have seen 2coach 158s on Portsmouth-Cardiff lose 20 minutes by Bath or Bristol, due to extended dwell at stations, and as most of the local tickets wouldn't be advances (with auto delay repay) that is an awful lot of manual accounting needed to reallocate the delay repay cost back into that short formation.

I suspect it is based on selective inclusion of costs

Re: Travellers warned of bank holiday road and rail delays - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364553/30598/26]
Posted by Mark A at 18:32, 22nd August 2025
 
Yes, looking at Streetview, possibly from the station car park approach road at Berkswell - that's the second track of the double track WCML spur to Birmingham sort of making itself not very obvious, behind the train.

Other stand-out features of Berkswell Station: beside it, a 7 foot headroom road bridge.

Nearby to be seen - a great length of HS2 construction a more advanced stage is now covered on Google satellite view.

The Leamington to Coventry line... I'm trying to recall if it went out of use completely before being brought into use for crosscountry services needing Birmingham International.

Mark

Re: Travellers warned of bank holiday road and rail delays - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364552/30598/26]
Posted by grahame at 17:11, 22nd August 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
On a slightly more serious note: where was this picture (as used in the BBC News item) originally taken?

Cross Country, single track. I really don't know. 

And, I see, electrified too. Must be somewhere to our north. Do we have *any* electrified single lines in the South West yet??

[edit] - from a reverse image search:

Contributor:PA Images
File size:30.8 MB (1.6 MB Compressed download)

Releases:Model - no | Property - noDo I need a release?
Dimensions:4096 x 2631 px | 34.7 x 22.3 cm | 13.7 x 8.8 inches | 300dpi
Date taken:4 June 2015
Photographer:Joe Giddens
More information:
This image could have imperfections as it’s either historical or reportage.
A Cross Country train approaches Berkswell train station in Solihull

Re: First Bus passengers warned of potential strike action - August 2025
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364551/30551/5]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:06, 22nd August 2025
 
Looks like it's going to happen.......

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bus-strikes-bristol-cause-chaos-10447277

Re: Travellers warned of bank holiday road and rail delays - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364550/30598/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:50, 22nd August 2025
 
Newquay, of old journeys?

Re: World Cup of Stations, 2025
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [364549/30596/49]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:49, 22nd August 2025
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
You can nominate Taunton right now if you wish!

Voting starts in October half-term week

Re: Travellers warned of bank holiday road and rail delays - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364548/30598/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:49, 22nd August 2025
 
On a slightly more serious note: where was this picture (as used in the BBC News item) originally taken?



Cross Country, single track. I really don't know. 


 
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