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Re: Unused equipment to be donated to Kent heritage railway - Sep 2025
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [365344/30701/47]
Posted by grahame at 18:15, 8th September 2025
 
Old Miners railway wasn't it?

The East Kent Railway was a Colonel Stevens line - Like the WC&P - but survived in part much longer because is served the coal mine at Tilmanstone which it linked to the main line at Shepherd's Well.  It ran on to Eastry, from where branches ran to Wingham and to Sandwich Road.  I think an one time it went a bit further too [Edit - to Richborough Port]; I recall reading of it crossing the main Minster to Dover line on a bridge that was so perilous that passengers trains couldn't cross it

Edit to add from The Colonel Stevens Archive on the Wayback machine
   
Born in great optimism this railway was the only outcome of numerous plans for railways and collieries in the newly discovered Kent Coalfield. Conceived to carry coal it soon reverted to a truly rural railway with a heavy coal flow for a few miles at one end. Holman Stephens was engineer from inception, subsequently becoming director and manager. Running from Shepherdswell to Wingham with an intermittently operating branch to Richborough Port it opened in 1911 with a passenger service from 1916.

Services ebbed away with the final passenger trains in 1948 with progressive closures back to Tilmanstone Colliery over the next 3 years. The line shut with the colliery in the 1980's.

Re: Unused equipment to be donated to Kent heritage railway - Sep 2025
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [365343/30701/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:12, 8th September 2025
 
Yes, ChrisB, it was.

Details are their website, at https://eastkentrailway.co.uk/history/

I'll add the East Kent Railway to our 'abbreviations page' on the Coffee Shop forum.

CfN. 

Re: Unused equipment to be donated to Kent heritage railway - Sep 2025
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [365342/30701/47]
Posted by ChrisB at 17:53, 8th September 2025
 
Old Miners railway wasn't it?

Unused equipment to be donated to Kent heritage railway - Sep 2025
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [365341/30701/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:49, 8th September 2025
 
From the BBC:



Redundant railway equipment and materials from a mainline network are to be donated to a heritage railway.

The agreement between South Eastern Railway and volunteer-led East Kent Railway is aimed at working towards reestablishing freight trains on the heritage railway for the first time since 1987. It is the first scheme of its kind in Kent, according to Network Rail.

David Davidson, chief operating officer for the South Eastern Railway, said he was "excited about the possibilities" that the agreement could being, as well as the "potential to support economic growth in East Kent". He added: "Wherever we can, we will work with heritage railways across our network to forge a new partnership so that materials that would otherwise be recycled elsewhere to be re-used can find a new purpose."

East Kent Railway runs heritage trains on a four-mile (6.4km) round trip between Shepherdswell and Eythorne.

The donated railway materials will include rails and sleepers, as well as other items no longer needed for the mainline railway. In return, East Kent Railway will provide South Eastern Railway with the use of its facilities, such as for training. Under the agreement, both organisations will also work together to explore opportunities for the reestablishment of commercial freight traffic over the East Kent Railway.

Matthew Plews, general manager of the East Kent Railway Trust, said: "This agreement provides a framework for a deeper collaboration which will benefit us both, both in the short term and into the future."


Re: Weston-super-Mare - Birnbeck Pier plan 'in jeopardy' as RNLI pulls out - June 2025
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365339/30411/31]
Posted by grahame at 17:22, 8th September 2025
 
£5million short? (from the RNLI before they pulled out)

Crowdfunders can raise that sort of funds - worth a try, council?

A few things struck me reading the post that's quoted

"It is with genuine regret and disappointment" ... and my eyebrows raised at the word "genuine" - why did they have to add that word?  It almost reads as if they'r looking to boost a decision when it's not really genuine ... or that other things where they say they regret things are not genuine.

"committed to raising £5m towards the cost".   The current Town Council precept is WsM is £164 for a band D house which raises £4.5 million per year.    The Public Works Loan Board over a ten year period would charge 5% interest at current rates - total repayment £7.5 million, which equates to £25 per household per year for the next decade.  Inflation is your friend here - that £25 will be less significant by 2035.

"Grade II listed" and that means that the council has a legal heritage responsibility.

"This current project cannot go forward, but our ambition for the pier remains. We will continue looking for solutions and hope that at some point in the future an answer will be found" ... and I find myself wondering why the headline is "restoration scrapped" rather than than just reporting a hurdle.  Is there something of a PR exercise (or even a convenient excuse) for the council?  Are they [just] wording this in such a way that they replace a concrete scheme with wishful hopes and somewhat wriggle out of their duty of care?

Re: 16 dead after historic funicular railway derails in Lisbon - 3 September 2025
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [365337/30681/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:05, 8th September 2025
 
From the BBC:

Lisbon funicular crash victim was 'transport enthusiast'



The third British victim killed in the Lisbon funicular crash has been named by police.

David Young, 82, from Holyhead on Anglesey, was among 16 people who died last Wednesday when the Glória funicular derailed and crashed into a building in Portugal's capital. His family described him as a "lifelong transport enthusiast", saying it was a comfort that "his final moments were in pursuit of the hobby which gave him so much happiness".

Over the weekend Cheshire Police confirmed the other British victims were Kayleigh Smith, 36, and her partner Will Nelson, 44.

Known to most as Dave, he was raised in Auchterarder, Perthshire, but moved to Holyhead in 1980 where he had a "long career as a customs officer". "In retirement he enjoyed visiting heritage railways and tramways around the world," his family said.

Llinos Medi, MP for Ynys Môn, sent her condolences to Mr Young's family and "to those who have been affected".

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said he was "deeply saddened" by the incident. "His thoughts are with their families and those affected by this terrible incident," a spokesperson said. "We stand united with Portugal during this difficult time."

The city's funicular railways - Glória, Lavra, Bica and Graça - are a popular tourist attraction and known for their yellow tram-like vehicles.

Officials said a cable along the railway's route snapped, but the rest of the mechanism was functioning properly. The brakeman tried to apply emergency brakes but failed to prevent the derailment. The cause of the crash remains unknown.

Nationals of Portugal, South Korea, Switzerland, Canada, France, Britain, Ukraine and the US are among the dead, according to police.


Re: Three killed in Isle of Wight helicopter crash during flying lesson: 25 Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365336/30626/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:55, 8th September 2025
 
The last time I checked, they had raised over £16,000 for the Poles' funeral

Re: Three killed in Isle of Wight helicopter crash during flying lesson: 25 Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365335/30626/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:52, 8th September 2025
 
From the BBC:

Inquest opens into fatal helicopter crash

An inquest has opened into the deaths of three people killed in a helicopter crash on the Isle of Wight.

Justyna Czoska, 52, Wojciech Kowalkowski, 49 from Oxfordshire, and 54-year-old flying instructor Simon Hewitt from Lincolnshire were killed when the aircraft came down in a field near Shanklin on the morning of 25 August.

The coroner's officer said Dr Megan Jenkins, home office registered pathologist carried out the post-mortem examination at Southampton's St Mary's hospital mortuary on 27 August and the provisional cause of death was "multiple injuries".

The inquest at Isle Of Wight Coroner's Court has been adjourned until 5 March 2026 for all three victims.

The helicopter left Sandown Airport for a flying lesson on the Isle of Wight at 09:00 BST on Monday 25 August, with four people on board.


Ms Czoska and Mr Kowalkowski (left) and flying instructor Mr Hewitt (right) died in the crash

Witnesses reported the aircraft spiralling before crashing in a field alongside the A3020 at 09:20.

Mr Hewitt from Barton-upon-Humber in Lincolnshire, died in the crash alongside 52-year-old Ms Czoska and 49-year-old Mr Kowalkowski, who were both from Banbury, Oxfordshire.

A fourth person a man in his 30s was taken to hospital, where he remains in a stable condition.

The Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) said an investigation into the crash is likely to take 12 months.

The families of those involved were not in the court but have previously released statements with the family of Ms Czoska currently trying to raise money for the bodies of Ms Czoska and Mr Kowalkowski to be sent back to their native country, Poland, for burial.


Re: Weston-super-Mare - Birnbeck Pier plan 'in jeopardy' as RNLI pulls out - June 2025
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365334/30411/31]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:41, 8th September 2025
 
£5million short? (from the RNLI before they pulled out)

Crowdfunders can raise that sort of funds - worth a try, council?

Re: Weston-super-Mare - Birnbeck Pier plan 'in jeopardy' as RNLI pulls out - June 2025
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365333/30411/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:29, 8th September 2025
 
An update, from the BBC:

Crumbling pier's restoration could be scrapped



A council's flagship project to restore a crumbling Grade II listed pier could be scrapped months after a key backer pulled out.

North Somerset Council has been working to restore and reopen Birnbeck Pier, in Weston-super-Mare, for years after it was closed to the public since 1994 and left in disrepair.

In June the Royal National Lifeboat Institute (RNLI), which was a key partner, pulled out of a deal which would have started work to restore the pier because of viability concerns.

Councillors have been recommended by council officers to close the current restoration project "with genuine regret and disappointment" at a meeting on 16 September.

The council report said: "It is with genuine regret and disappointment that this report recommends to council the effective closure of the current Birnbeck Pier restoration project. This pier is a loved landmark, not just locally but nationally and internationally. Our social media posts have generated positive responses and happy memories from all across the world. Its restoration would bring people together in celebration of our past and future, enhancing pride in where we live and what we can achieve here. This current project cannot go forward, but our ambition for the pier remains. We will continue looking for solutions and hope that at some point in the future an answer will be found."

A council report said the pier was bought by the local authority in 2023 with the financial backing of the RNLI and Historic England.

However the RNLI abandoned the project in June while the council prepared steps to award a construction company the major contract to restore the pier. The RNLI initially proposed to establish a new base on the pier and had committed to raising £5m towards the cost.

The RNLI previously told the BBC it left the project after a viability review raised concerns about funding and plans paying ongoing maintenance costs. The RNLI has been approached for comment.

The council report said the "current funding gap is too large to be bridged by" the council and it has not received any offer of alternative funding.

The pier is among six Grade II listed piers in England and the only in the UK to connect the mainland to an island.

It played a significant role during World War Two as it was commissioned for weapon trials, including the famous Sir Barnes Wallis bouncing bomb.

The final decision will be made at a meeting of North Somerset's full council on September 16.


Re: Abbey Wood station
In "Transport for London" [365332/30700/46]
Posted by grahame at 16:08, 8th September 2025
 

That's [Woolwich] Abbey Wood, not Filton Abbey Wood 

On days like today with much of the underground on strike, passengers coming into London from North Kent will be changing there all the more ... for Liverpool Street, Bond Street, Paddington ...

Abbey Wood station
In "Transport for London" [365331/30700/46]
Posted by CyclingSid at 15:27, 8th September 2025
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Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365330/30696/51]
Posted by johnneyw at 15:02, 8th September 2025
 
I see the alerts as not just a means of potentially avoiding risk to myself but also of reducing the likelihood of having to put demands upon what could be hard pressed emergency services.... 'doing ones bit', if you like.

Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365329/30696/51]
Posted by broadgage at 14:46, 8th September 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
I didn't receive it as I was out of the country at the time so have no idea what it sounds like
Sounds awful, screeching sound. I switched it off before they did the first test a couple of years ago.

A bit like a seagull screeching ?

Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365328/30696/51]
Posted by bobm at 14:03, 8th September 2025
 
As I said before, I am not against the alerts just the way they are delivered.  If Apple allowed them to post a message and vibrate without the sound, I'd be happy.

As it is I've survived more than three score years without them so I am happy to take my chances going forward.

Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365326/30696/51]
Posted by JayMac at 13:29, 8th September 2025
Already liked by IndustryInsider, broadgage
 
Authoritarianism is bad enough, without inviting yet more of it from the government

The current government were not the architects of this 'authoritarianism'.

A system using modern technology that is designed to save lives is the sort of 'authoritarianism' I can get on board with. An infrequent test of said system is a mere trifle.

You are of course free to ignore the tests, and any real 'threats to life' warnings. Or block them completely. Were it really authoritarian you wouldn't have the choice to ignore or block.

Re: Bus Service 205
In "Transport for London" [365325/30357/46]
Posted by grahame at 13:18, 8th September 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Chris from Nailsea, Timmer
 
I had to travel from St Pancras to Paddington yesterday evening. No underground and Thameslink not crossing London. Staff at St Pancras were telling passengers to catch the 205 bus to Paddington despite the fact that it doesn't go there anymore. The buses were chaotic with many terminating short. the 27 which is the connecting service from the 205 showed a wait of 24 minutes. I ended up in a taxi for the last stage of the journey and just caught my train. Not good service.

Forgive me quoting you from another thread - but this illustrates the gap the TfL have chosen to leave for visitors crossing London, and how impractical the change between buses is.    Failure of public transport.  You should not end up needing a Taxi to cross between major terminals!

Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365324/30696/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:53, 8th September 2025
 
iPhone has a setting in Settings>Notifications.  Just scroll down to the bottom and there are a couple of toggles to silence the alarms.  Authoritarianism is bad enough, without inviting yet more of it from the government

Yup - that completely stops the iphone from receiving any alerts at all.

I don't however think there is a setting that allows you to receive the alert silently, with or without vibrate - and just get the message on screen silently

Re: London Underground - industrial action by RMT, early September 2025
In "Transport for London" [365323/30605/46]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:49, 8th September 2025
 
Elizabeth Line bow showing "Good service" stopping at all stations.

Thameslink stopping at Farringdon 0730 - 2230 today

Re: London Underground - industrial action by RMT, early September 2025
In "Transport for London" [365322/30605/46]
Posted by rogerw at 12:33, 8th September 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
I had to travel from St Pancras to Paddington yesterday evening. No underground and Thameslink not crossing London. Staff at St Pancras were telling passengers to catch the 205 bus to Paddington despite the fact that it doesn't go there anymore. The buses were chaotic with many terminating short. the 27 which is the connecting service from the 205 showed a wait of 24 minutes. I ended up in a taxi for the last stage of the journey and just caught my train. Not good service.

Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365321/30696/51]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:32, 8th September 2025
Already liked by JayMac, GBM
 
I'm quite happy to put up with a very occasional test for a system that has the potential to save lives on the very rare occasions it needs to be used.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [365320/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 12:28, 8th September 2025
 
Hereford is not having a good day:
09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:08/09/2025 12:19

13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:24 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:08/09/2025 12:19

Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365319/30696/51]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 12:18, 8th September 2025
 
iPhone has a setting in Settings>Notifications.  Just scroll down to the bottom and there are a couple of toggles to silence the alarms.  Authoritarianism is bad enough, without inviting yet more of it from the government

Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365318/30696/51]
Posted by Timmer at 11:47, 8th September 2025
 
I didn't receive it as I was out of the country at the time so have no idea what it sounds like
Sounds awful, screeching sound. I switched it off before they did the first test a couple of years ago.

Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365317/30696/51]
Posted by rogerw at 11:46, 8th September 2025
 
I didn't receive it as I was out of the country at the time so have no idea what it sounds like

Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365316/30696/51]
Posted by stuving at 11:27, 8th September 2025
 
On my (Samsung/Android) tablet, in the settings for emergency alerts, there is an option to "speak alert messages" using text-to-speech. This was set to off, so the tablet made a lot of noise but said nothing yesterday. I imagine this is present in of most, if not all, Android phones.

I also wonder whether a phone might allow you to answer an alert as if it was a call. That might not be standardised, but depend on the specific user interface.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [365315/29711/14]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:44, 8th September 2025
 
I heard it was signal failure at Ledbury

 
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