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« on: October 21, 2018, 12:56:33 »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45932991

Very sad. No details about the cause as yet. Many vehicles derailed, but they look largely intact suggesting a relatively modest speed.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2018, 13:56:28 »
It's noticeable that the leading vehicle has overturned on the outside of a curve.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2018, 14:11:38 »
Quote from: bignosemac on October 21, 2018, 13:56:28
It's noticeable that the leading vehicle has overturned on the outside of a curve.

True, though that tells us nothing about why it came off, only that it was on a curve at the time. Any derailment at speed on a curve, whatever the cause, is almost certain to produce that effect.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2018, 15:15:04 »
Now reported that excess speed was a factor in the derailment.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2018, 17:07:55 »
Quote from: bignosemac on October 23, 2018, 15:15:04
Now reported that excess speed was a factor in the derailment.

AIUI▸ (as I understand it), there was a c40mph curve on a c90mph route. The local equivalent of ATC▸ (Automatic Train Control)/TPWS▸ (Train Protection and Warning System) had been switched out as faulty, without failing the train. There may not have been effective approach control signalling, as would apply in the UK▸ (United Kingdom).

Sometimes I think that NR» (Network Rail - home page)/DfT» (Department for Transport - about)/GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) etc are wonderful.....

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2018, 17:58:10 »
...err.  where in the UK▸ (United Kingdom) do we have approach control signalling for a curve in plain line?
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2018, 18:42:01 »

I thought that we had it at Reading before the rebuild on the down main (125) into 4 (50). We were never slowed when it was 80.

Apologies if I'm mistaken.

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