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« on: January 24, 2018, 22:40:35 »

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Rail-News/new-longer-train-numbers-to-come-into-effect-this-year

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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2018, 23:26:55 »

Hark, yonder little englander rail enthusiast:

*mumble mumble* bloody EU» (European Union - about) *mumble mumble* brexit will stop this Brussels meddling with our British† trains. *mumble mumble*



† Built in Japan, Spain, Germany, Italy.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2018, 09:20:30 »

There is an explanation of all this here: https://www.rssb.co.uk/Pages/improving-industry-performance/rail-vehicle-numbering-explained.aspx and the relevant Railway Industry Standard is here: https://www.rssb.co.uk/rgs/standards/RIS-2453-RST%20Iss%201.pdf

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2018, 09:42:56 »

This is redolent of the romance of rail travel.

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Taking a geeky topic into pedantic side alleys, if 70 indicates Great Britain, are we to understand that trains in Northern Ireland have a different number? (I'm guessing it would be sensible if they did, seeing as they're on a separate island and – I think – a different rail gauge.)
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2018, 10:10:45 »

There is an explanation of all this here: https://www.rssb.co.uk/Pages/improving-industry-performance/rail-vehicle-numbering-explained.aspx and the relevant Railway Industry Standard is here: https://www.rssb.co.uk/rgs/standards/RIS-2453-RST%20Iss%201.pdf

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I had some trouble finding the algorithm for the check digit.
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Check digit [one digit] In accordance with NVR Appendix 6 Part '3'

Further delving points me to the Luhn algorithm - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhn_algorithm - which I need to revise / revisit when I have time ...
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2018, 10:33:02 »

Hark, yonder little englander rail enthusiast:

*mumble mumble* bloody EU» (European Union - about) *mumble mumble* brexit will stop this Brussels meddling with our British† trains. *mumble mumble*



† Built in Japan, Spain, Germany, Italy.

Reading Today's Railways Europe it is interesting to see how many continental locos don't  prominently display the the full ENV number or even the class number. This is particularly true of independent freight operators/loco lessors who seem to have their own numbering schemes. To confuse things further locos are often renumbered when changing owners.  It makes train spotting interesting trying to keep up with these changes.

The ENV number is I believe supposed to be for life, so the loco can be tracked throughout its life

Some of the more interesting signage on locos is the country matrix with the country codes in which the loco/unit is authorised to run. It gets quite interesting on 4 voltage locos.

I also believe that CIE» (Coras Iompair Eireann - Holding company for Irish transport companies - about) uses ENV codes even if there is no chance of interoperability with Europe.

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