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« on: November 24, 2023, 15:43:18 »

It was previously suggested that H&W were considering to build 3 new ships to run a competing service using the levelling up fund that the IOSSP declined, H&W now appear to be trying to take control of the IOSSP....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-67518645
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2023, 09:08:03 »

Didn't see that coming!
Not enough trade for two companies to run all year.
H&W seemed to offer the best option for all year round services.
The helicopter service from Penzance is nothing to do with the Isles of Scilly Steamship Company either.

Will be interesting to see this play out.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2023, 11:25:35 »

...H&W seemed to offer the best option for all year round services. ...

The Harland & Wolff 'brand' is apparently now owned by a company called InfraStrata who run a number of small ship building and repair yards in the UK (United Kingdom) (including Appledore in North Devon).

The only late autumn>winter>early spring public transport services are the separate Penzance<>IOS helicopter service (£150 one way) and the IOS Skybus (£130 one way) from Land's End Airport. Given the weather during this part of the year I would have grave doubts that anybody could run a reliable year-round maritime service. InfraStrata have absolutely no history of providing public transport services so I would be very suspicious of their motives in this case. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2023, 12:38:07 »


The only late autumn>winter>early spring public transport services are the separate Penzance<>IOS helicopter service (£150 one way) and the IOS Skybus (£130 one way) from Land's End Airport. Given the weather during this part of the year I would have grave doubts that anybody could run a reliable year-round maritime service.  
Prior to our current H&S (Health and Safety), the Scillonian ran regardless of the weather, and it was fairly common for them to have to either anchor off or hove to at either end awaiting weather abating.
Likewise the GryMaritha (the current winter service freight and 8 (or 12?) passengers.

If H&W can provide a good winter service (plus a good less weather dependent summer service), then well done that man.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2023, 13:42:15 »

H&W no longer interested in taking over IOSSC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-67785067
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2023, 18:10:45 »

H&W no longer interested in taking over IOSSC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-67785067

But they are still building their own ships to run in opposition (earlier than the Steamship ones)
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2023, 17:02:17 »

H & W proposing new ferry for next year. I wonder if the ISSC will regret their decision regarding talks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-67800783

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A new ferry is set to take passengers between Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly in faster journey times from next summer, its operator says.
Shipbuilder Harland and Wolff (H&W) has chartered a ship it says will come into service from May, with 90-minute trips.
Last month H&W made an approach to buy the existing operators, the Isles of Scilly Steamship Company (ISSC), but was "unequivocally rejected".
The ISSC ferry, the Scillonian III, is scheduled to sail from March.
H&W is calling its new arm Scilly Ferries, and said the new vessel was a catamaran that would take up to 400 passengers between Penzance and St Mary's in about one hour and 30 minutes.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2023, 18:20:26 »

H & W proposing new ferry for next year. I wonder if the ISSC will regret their decision regarding takks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-67800783

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A new ferry is set to take passengers between Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly in faster journey times from next summer, its operator says.
Shipbuilder Harland and Wolff (H&W) has chartered a ship it says will come into service from May, with 90-minute trips.
Last month H&W made an approach to buy the existing operators, the Isles of Scilly Steamship Company (ISSC), but was "unequivocally rejected".
The ISSC ferry, the Scillonian III, is scheduled to sail from March.
H&W is calling its new arm Scilly Ferries, and said the new vessel was a catamaran that would take up to 400 passengers between Penzance and St Mary's in about one hour and 30 minutes.

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2023, 21:11:45 »

The plot thickens….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-67806640

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Urgent food deliveries have been set up for the Isles of Scilly in time for Christmas after a freight ship carrying chilled foods broke down.
The Isles of Scilly Steamship Company (ISSC) said the Gry Maritha returned to Penzance shortly after departure.
It said the repair was not likely to be completed until Boxing Day at the earliest.
The firm apologised for the disruption, as rival firm Harland and Wolff (H&W) stepped in to make the delivery.
H&W said it had set up a free freight service to St Mary's on Saturday.

John Wood, H&W's chief executive, said on Facebook the service was "for any emergency items and food required for Christmas".
He said only one run was possible, because of the forecasted weather conditions.
He added: "It is an unfortunate situation and difficult to deal with at this late stage with everyone shutting down for Christmas, but we are looking at all options."
ISSC said in a travel update it was "exploring all options" for the transportation of urgent chilled food to the Scilly Isles.
"Please accept our apologies for the obvious inconvenience that this has caused, and be assured we are doing all that we can to minimise further disruption to the freight service," it said. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2023, 21:29:17 »

Hmm. It'll be a while since many people on Scilly have had to resort to sea-beef.

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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2023, 07:50:17 »

A local inter-island launch, Lyonesse Lady will make a return trip today, already a third of the way to Penzance, but she's not capable of speed! 8 knots.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2023, 09:46:32 »

And there she is: a shipping map.

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https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-5.7/centery:50.0/zoom:10
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2023, 11:16:25 »

"Oh no she's not!" (panto season).
As at time of writing, she's alongside in Penzance.
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2023, 11:21:33 »

H & W proposing new ferry for next year. I wonder if the ISSC will regret their decision regarding takks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-67800783

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A new ferry is set to take passengers between Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly in faster journey times from next summer, its operator says.
Shipbuilder Harland and Wolff (H&W) has chartered a ship it says will come into service from May, with 90-minute trips.
Last month H&W made an approach to buy the existing operators, the Isles of Scilly Steamship Company (ISSC), but was "unequivocally rejected".
The ISSC ferry, the Scillonian III, is scheduled to sail from March.
H&W is calling its new arm Scilly Ferries, and said the new vessel was a catamaran that would take up to 400 passengers between Penzance and St Mary's in about one hour and 30 minutes.

game on

Aremiti 5 appears to be the vessel in question. Recently advertised for sale, and is an Austal 56m meeting all of the other specification mentioned
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2023, 21:31:19 »

"Oh no she's not!" (panto season).
As at time of writing, she's alongside in Penzance.

And now returned to Scilly.

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