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« on: August 20, 2017, 15:58:50 »

The second such event, this time at Paddington. 1C81 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) to PNZ rear car derailed as train was leaving.

Notified by OTT (Open Train Times website) on twitter and shown by OpenTrainTimes  maphttp://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/d3_1#T_PADTON

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40991544
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 15:59:38 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40991544

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Train derails as it departs London Paddington station

Passengers had to be evacuated from a train after it derailed while leaving Paddington station in London.

The rear power car of the Great Western Railway train partially left the track as it departed for Penzance in Cornwall shortly before midday.

A spokesperson for the rail firm said it was "travelling at extremely low speed" and no injuries were reported.

Platforms one and two are currently out of use while Network Rail investigates what happened.

The passengers on board were transferred to another service and other trains leaving the station are running to their original timetables.

It is the second time a train has derailed at a major London station in a week.

On Tuesday, a South West train left tracks after it hit a barrier train at Waterloo station causing major disruption for commuters.

On the same day, a Great Northern train crashed into buffers as it arrived at King's Cross.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2017, 16:42:30 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40991544

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Train derails as it departs London Paddington station

Passengers had to be evacuated from a train after it derailed while leaving Paddington station in London.

The rear power car of the Great Western Railway train partially left the track as it departed for Penzance in Cornwall shortly before midday.

A spokesperson for the rail firm said it was "travelling at extremely low speed" and no injuries were reported.

Platforms one and two are currently out of use while Network Rail investigates what happened.

The passengers on board were transferred to another service and other trains leaving the station are running to their original timetables.

It is the second time a train has derailed at a major London station in a week.

On Tuesday, a South West train left tracks after it hit a barrier train at Waterloo station causing major disruption for commuters.

On the same day, a Great Northern train crashed into buffers as it arrived at King's Cross.

Well, they say these things come in threes.......Waterloo, Kings X and now Paddington.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2017, 17:02:31 »

Seems an odd place to derail
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2017, 17:05:21 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40991544

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Train derails as it departs London Paddington station

Passengers had to be evacuated from a train after it derailed while leaving Paddington station in London.

The rear power car of the Great Western Railway train partially left the track as it departed for Penzance in Cornwall shortly before midday.

A spokesperson for the rail firm said it was "travelling at extremely low speed" and no injuries were reported.

Platforms one and two are currently out of use while Network Rail investigates what happened.

The passengers on board were transferred to another service and other trains leaving the station are running to their original timetables.

It is the second time a train has derailed at a major London station in a week.

On Tuesday, a South West train left tracks after it hit a barrier train at Waterloo station causing major disruption for commuters.

On the same day, a Great Northern train crashed into buffers as it arrived at King's Cross.

Well, they say these things come in threes.......Waterloo, Kings X and now Paddington.

Three plus derailments at Ely, Daventry and Neville Hill
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2017, 17:06:17 »

Not the first derailment of this type in the platforms.  Probably caused by road-spread.  Look at the number of tie-bars holding the rails to gauge Roll Eyes Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2017, 17:14:46 »

Not the first derailment of this type in the platforms.  Probably caused by road-spread.  Look at the number of tie-bars holding the rails to gauge Roll Eyes Tongue

Or, in this case, not.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 17:41:58 »

Oops.

Hopefully track defect and not power car. Any axle/wheelset issues could see fleet checks needed.
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 17:52:53 »

I know that road spread has been mooted as the probable cause, but it’s interesting that the photo of 43188 on WNXX (Stored Unserviceable, Mainline Locos HQ All Classes) shows the non-platform side wheel of axle 4 (the only derailed axle) outside the running rail. 

Maybe the platform side wheel dropped down because of the road spread, and then as the axle travelled forwards towards undamaged (ie correct gauge) track the platform side wheel, wedged inside the rail, forced the axle over causing the non-platform side wheel to climb over the rail. This takes a fair bit of force - which is why trains usually stay on the track of course.

Interesting that axle 3 stayed on the rails.  We’ll see what the investigation reveals in due course.

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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2017, 19:38:04 »

Bit of moderator intervention required as we are already discussing this derailment here: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=14689.2115 and here: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=18610.0   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2017, 19:42:37 »

Bit of moderator intervention required as we are already discussing this derailment here: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=14689.2115 and here: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=18610.0   Roll Eyes

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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 08:34:47 »

A couple of photos from Twitter user frazzle.





The leading power car and eight coaches were removed early evening and 43188 was re-railed and taken back to Old Oak Common about 23:00.  Platform 2 remains closed but Platform 1 is open barring the occasional closure if work on the track in Platform 2 requires it.

43188 in happier times at Carmarthen earlier this month.



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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2017, 08:54:42 »

The guy on the platform with the backpack wearing the blue safety helmet doesn't look to me if he is wearing safety boots.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2017, 09:28:14 »

The guy on the platform with the backpack wearing the blue safety helmet doesn't look to me if he is wearing safety boots.
Network Rail photographer?
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2017, 09:30:09 »

The guy on the platform with the backpack wearing the blue safety helmet doesn't look to me if he is wearing safety boots.
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