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« Reply #2265 on: December 03, 2017, 19:49:39 »

Had some friends booked on the 17.57 Penzance train. Sent them to Waterloo to get the 18.15

17:57 just left 61 minutes late.

With my daughter and son-in-law upgraded to First class, gratis.

No normal route. Line via Swindon closed due to engineering work. Won’t stop at Reading because of overload of train.

It did stop at Reading. The TM(resolve) announced that it would, as soon as they had left Paddington, but that they didn't say so at Paddington for fear of not getting longer-distance PAX on board.

It all now seems to be getting closer to organised. The train my daughter should have been on left Paddington 46 late. She's mildly irritated because it means she won't get a full refund, even though she will be back at EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) under 10 minutes later than she should have been, and is in first. Talk about coming out of the bucket smelling of roses.
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« Reply #2266 on: December 03, 2017, 20:08:37 »

Apparently the problem was caused by a broken down NR» (Network Rail - home page) track maintenance train.....oh the irony!
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« Reply #2267 on: December 03, 2017, 20:17:42 »

I'm sure everyone will feel better for knowing that French National Railways (SNCF (Societe Nationale des Chemins de fer Francais - French National Railways)) can do these things so much - er - better?

Paris Montparnasse has been closed since 01:30, aside from a very limited service using Paris Austerlitz. Service will restart tomorrow morning, or at least SNCF say it will. This is not due to old hardware that was damaged during an update, but the software equivalent - a major upgrade that has gone wrong. Oops. 

https://www.lci.fr/societe/en-direct-bug-informatique-a-montparnasse-la-sncf-annonce-un-retour-a-la-normale-lundi-matin-2072326.html

According to this news article, Patrick Jeantet, the president of French National Railways (SNCF) Reseau (the infrastructure owner), has been summoned to the office of Elisabeth Borne, the French Transport Minister, tomorrow morning at 0900 to explain what happened. So has Mark Carne has been called urgently to Chris Grayling's office? No, thought not...

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« Reply #2268 on: December 03, 2017, 20:20:18 »

She's mildly irritated because it means she won't get a full refund, even though she will be back at EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) under 10 minutes later than she should have been, and is in first.

Elle veut le beurre et l'argent du beurre, donc ?
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« Reply #2269 on: December 03, 2017, 20:33:58 »

She's mildly irritated because it means she won't get a full refund, even though she will be back at EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) under 10 minutes later than she should have been, and is in first.

Elle veut le beurre et l'argent du beurre, donc ?

Ha! Je me suis presque pissé en riant!

Oui, c'est vrai! Mais comment savais-tu qu'elle parle français, comme vous et son père?

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« Reply #2270 on: December 03, 2017, 20:39:38 »

I'm sure everyone will feel better for knowing that SNCF (Societe Nationale des Chemins de fer Francais - French National Railways) can do these things so much - er - better?

Paris Montparnasse has been closed since 01:30, aside from a very limited service using Paris Austerlitz. Service will restart tomorrow morning, or at least SNCF say it will. This is not due to old hardware that was damaged during an update, but the software equivalent - a major upgrade that has gone wrong. Oops. 

https://www.lci.fr/societe/en-direct-bug-informatique-a-montparnasse-la-sncf-annonce-un-retour-a-la-normale-lundi-matin-2072326.html

According to this news article, Patrick Jeantet, the president of SNCF Reseau (the infrastructure owner), has been summoned to the office of Elisabeth Borne, the French Transport Minister, tomorrow morning at 0900 to explain what happened. So has Mark Carne has been called urgently to Chris Grayling's office? No, thought not...

I expect he has been on the phone .................. trains disrupted to and from the PM' s constituency is bad karma   Grin
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« Reply #2271 on: December 03, 2017, 20:44:44 »

Paddington line incident being discussed on an alternative forum:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/major-disruption-at-paddington-3rd-dec-2017.157681/

The debate includes some comments reflecting a sense of inevitability that it's going to take three hours to remove a failed train, and others that refer to the modern-ish practice of a risk assessment.

What do readers think? Has the railway lost ability to recover from problems compared with 20th century rail? Can anything be done?

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« Reply #2272 on: December 03, 2017, 21:10:56 »

I expect he has been on the phone .................. trains disrupted to and from the PM' s constituency is bad karma   Grin

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« Reply #2273 on: December 03, 2017, 21:17:16 »

Paddington line incident being discussed on an alternative forum:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/major-disruption-at-paddington-3rd-dec-2017.157681/

The debate includes some comments reflecting a sense of inevitability that it's going to take three hours to remove a failed train, and others that refer to the modern-ish practice of a risk assessment.

What do readers think? Has the railway lost ability to recover from problems compared with 20th century rail? Can anything be done?



GWR (Great Western Railway) contingency plan = Cross fingers & hope for the best........if the worst happens, run away & hide.
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« Reply #2274 on: December 03, 2017, 22:16:14 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) contingency plan = Cross fingers & hope for the best........if the worst happens, run away & hide.

I know that you think that GWR is the embodiment of everything that is incompetent, but If I am not mistaken they do not operate frieght trains, nor do they run the infrastructure - so what are they supposed to do about it?

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« Reply #2275 on: December 03, 2017, 22:27:02 »

Agreed - in a situation like this, GWR (Great Western Railway) know little more than the throng in the station concourse. It looks as if as soon as there was space to run a train, they started with the longest distance journeys, which is sensible. How you can manage that sort of situation, with trains stranded where they shouldn't be and drivers running out of hours beats me, and I take my hat off to the back room staff who do it.

It was, according to another forum, probably a NR» (Network Rail - home page) maintenance train that will be spending tonight in the naughty siding. The irony!
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« Reply #2276 on: December 03, 2017, 22:59:17 »

At one point the plan was to split the train and take it in different directions to nearby loops.

In the end the whole train was moved at walking pace to Hayes loop.
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« Reply #2277 on: December 10, 2017, 10:29:07 »

Alterations to services between Oxford and Reading


Due to a fault with the signalling system between Oxford and Reading some lines are blocked.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed by up to 60 minutes or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:30 10/12.
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« Reply #2278 on: December 10, 2017, 10:57:30 »

Alterations to services between Oxford and Reading


Due to a fault with the signalling system between Oxford and Reading some lines are blocked.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed by up to 60 minutes or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:30 10/12.
Some seriously running late services into London right now.
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« Reply #2279 on: December 10, 2017, 11:00:52 »

Quite heavy snowfall affecting Didcot northwards, gets worse the further north towards Birmingham you go.
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