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3556  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: 2018 cancellation and amendment log on: November 08, 2018, 09:52:58
I'm surprised that in these days one sophisticated systems, there's nothing in the signalling that check train lengths into the Swindon bay ... it's not the first time ...

One of the few times I had any professional dealing with railways was investigating the use of a transponder system to detect and measure exactly where trains are. There are obviously ways to do that, but for a really reliable system the ideal is multiple senors based on different principles. What interest we got for the idea was to detect and count vehicles, both within the train and from fixed equipment. I was told then that the top of the wish list for better detection was train length - traditional signalling can't measure it directly. That came from someone doing metro systems, but I'm sure the same is true of heavy rail. Of course an axle counter does this too, but AFAIK (as far as I know) the actual counts never get sent onwards to the signalling system.
3557  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Great Western Main Line electrification - ongoing discussion on: November 07, 2018, 23:55:52
There was a report on BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) South local news tonight about a report for Network Rail on the vexed topic of he OLE (Overhead Line Equipment, more often "OHLE") at Goring Gap. I can't find that online with the BBC, nor Network Rail, but there is this from the Henley Standard (Goring page):
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METAL gantries installed along the railway line in the Goring area should be made more attractive, according to a report commissioned by Network Rail.

Engineering firm Balfour Beatty has recommended a number of measures to reduce the visual impact of the gantries, which were put up in March 2015 as part of the electrification of the Great Western main line to Oxford.

These include:
•Replacing the gantries with slimmer or shorter designs.
• Painting them in more natural colours.
• Bringing some of the overhead equipment down to ground level.
• Planting more trees, shrubs and hedging at the edge of the line.

Network Rail says none of this can be done unless the Government is willing to fund it

There is even more detail on some of those, though in part that shows the HS (High Speed (short for HSS (High Speed Services) High Speed Services)) have misundestood some terms:
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The report says the simplest solution is to move the bulky electrical transformers from the top of each pillar to ground level, reducing their height by about 1ft. The horizontal booms could be made thinner and solid or the entire gantry could be replaced with a slimmer goalpost shape, as happened with the Grade II listed Gatehampton railway bridge to improve its appearance.

They could also be replaced with a T-shaped structure which was used at Moulsford viaduct to conserve views.

Replacing the solid spans with metal wires has been ruled out as this design is considered unreliable and dangerous to repair.

The report says the landscape is mostly yellow with hints of green and red while the gantries are grey and the accompanying fencing is dark green, which clashes.

It suggests painting five gantries in slightly different shades and asking the public which they prefer.

More planting could be carried out, although some would be on private land so would require the owners’ permission.

Balfour Beatty says each measure alone would have a small impact but combined they would have a bigger effect and the benefit would be substantial and worthwhile.

The Goring RAG (Radstock Action Group) report similar proposals from a meeting with NR» (Network Rail - home page) in September, which is cryptic but explains the bit about ATFs better:

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    Series 1 Amended:
        Solid beam modification
        ATF options (all assume cropping masts to boom level)
            Vertical insulators
            Low-Level ATF
            Ground-level ATF
    Viaduct Portal as replacement for standard portal
    Viaduct Twin T as replacement for standard portal (review possible locations)
    Landscape-based Mitigations
    Colour (painting)
    Fencing
    Offsetting (Biodiversity/Landscape/Visual)
3558  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Stations with ... photo booths on: November 07, 2018, 22:35:43
I tried that for my latest passport. I took several photos and had to reject all of them because the lighting in my home with or without flash was not good enough. Every photo against a white-ish background had a shadow which the passport office will not accept. Eventually I ended up popping to Boots and using one of the new digital photo booths that gives you a code to transmit your photos to the passport office with your renewal application. I think it cost £6

I did manage to do my passport picture at home and send it digitally, despite the only white background available being the inside of the bathroom door. I did have a lamp trained on that to eliminate the shadows, and I was also controlling the camera, which was on a tripod, remotely from a tablet. With all that set up, the big problem is how to stop doing retakes to get the result just so! Then, after all that, when the passport came back the picture was printed with the colour very washed out - technical issues, no doubt.
3559  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Evesham incident and possible follow-up strike action on: November 07, 2018, 17:55:52
Reading the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) site, one question, why do they keep referring to the guy as "Brother"?
Surely 'Comrade' is non-gender already?
Either term is redolent of the kind of socialism that looks like a damp breeze block and smells of stale wee. Why do they feel the need to use any kind of title?

Why do they use Brother like that?

Historically, brother would have been common in several kinds of groups that the unions either grew out of or felt some commonality with - guilds, secret societies and fraternities, and nonconformists during the revival of the early 1800s. While unions may not have been religious, those primitive methodists, brethren, etc. were clearly anti-establishment, and their habit of squabbling about rules and procedures and forming splinter groups pre-echoes left-wing politics (I'm thinking of the 70s). So brother was an obvious choice as an egalitarian greeting and title, even if some of those precursors had hierarchical titles like master too.

In Britain, the prior use in religious orders wasn't a problem, given the lack of monks. In France it was, as the left was universally anti-clerical and the church was powerful, so camarade was adopted from military and revolutionary usage. That was reinforced when the Russian communists took over the various internationals, and camarade became the standard translation of tovarishch. In Germany, Kamerad was not acceptable as it was used in right-wing militaristic societies, and presumably Bruder wasn't accepted over much of Germany either, so I think Genosse got adopted instead. Kamerad of course was and is much better known to non-Germans, no doubt largely due to WWI (and II).

But why do they still use it (and comrade)? On one level we don't use titles, or this kind of greeting, much today, so they probably could drop it if they really wanted to not look like they are living in a parallel but slower-moving universe. But similar terms are used by some sub-groups, or self-conscious minorities. Unions might justifiably feel they have been persecuted, and have become more of a minority, but surely not to the extent of preparing to go underground*.

Incidentally, is Bro' in the RMT's text just a written abbreviation, or do they say "bro" and risk being attacked for cultural appropriate or suchlike?

*Though the RMT of course already are Underground.
3560  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: Dawlish closures - November 2018 on: November 07, 2018, 10:33:00
Met office yellow warnings seem to be of little relevance outside of the railway.
A yellow warning in effect means "expect seasonal weather"  and "expect disruption to rail services" whilst most of the non railway world carries on near normally during seasonal weather.

Fair weather only railway.

Amber and red warnings are of more relevance and can portend serious conditions.

This morning's Met Office yellow warning for the South West was for rain only - no wind (the next one, for Thursday/Friday, is for both.) Both events have similar forecast winds patterns at Dawlish, east of south, then turning via south (with the peak wind strength) to south-west - normal for a depression passing to the north. The highest wind forecast was higher for this morning (30 mph) that Friday, which looks a bit odd.

The inshore forecast did mention gales, but not the main (land) ones - again as normal, the presence of land reduces the wind strength even when you are still at sea (e.g. at a pier head, or a little further out). Of course the sea is more important at Dawlish, and the waves are formed by winds acting well out to sea and some time earlier, hence they are hard to forecast and the causes are not obvious to a land-based observer. Network rail have their own hydro- and meteoro-logical forcasts. This came up back you-know-when; the service was/had been provided by Mouchel (see this post); I have no information on the current situation, but I'm sure NR» (Network Rail - home page) were relying on that (or a development of it) and other specialist forecasting.
3561  Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion on: November 07, 2018, 00:48:00
Has the 4 track blockade between Temple Meads and Parkway been extended by a further week ? NRE(resolve) are telling me it will be a bus between those two points up to Sunday 25th November !
Yeah i've been wondering the same.  On the National Rail website current engineering works it now says;

"Buses replace trains between Bristol Temple Meads and Bristol Parkway / Severn Beach from Saturday 27 October until Sunday 25 November"

That line from National Rail is the only place that suggests a full week of closures after 18th November - all the other sources (the timetable, GWR (Great Western Railway), and Network Rail) say it's only the weekend. So I guess it's just carelessness - the head of that item gives:  Start date 27/10/2018, End date 25/11/2018; arguably that's correct. But as the closure and RRB (Rail Replacement Bus) aren't continuous, it's probably a mistake to put them in one item, especially as that set of data is meant to be looked up by date.
3562  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Planning? What planning? on: November 06, 2018, 21:03:11
I did find its planning documents (application 180410), which don't say (that I can find) who owns the site - so perhaps it is the council and they are not proud of themselves. There is a heritage statement from the applicants, and an assessment from the planners which sees no adverse issues. But then "heritage" consists only of what's got a listing, so the Three Guineas and a few things further away. However, the five public comments (one from the owners of Thames Tower) and the Conservation Area Appraisal Committee are all agin' it, the CAAC quite vehemently so.

The bit of the heritage statement that refers to visual impact in general, rather than listed stuff, reads:
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4.10 While it is recognised that the proposed digital screen will be noticeable in views of the listed former Station building, its location has been well considered in this context. In this regard, the proposed screen will be positioned so that it reads against the backdrop of the circa 2014 footbridge addition at the western end of the station. This will ensure that the proposed screen will not impede the key views of the heritage asset from the western end of Blagrave Street looking northwest, in particular (Plate 1 and Plate 2). It is also important to note that the screen will be obscured in other views, such as that from the northern end of Station Road, given the presence of Thames House (Plate 3). To the southwest of the station the terrain falls away beyond the entrance to the 2014 footbridge addition (i.e. Station Hill), which combined with the orientation of the screen (facing southeast), will lessen its prominence when read against the listed former Station building.

That bit about "it reads against the backdrop of the circa 2014 footbridge addition at the western end of the station" is a bit cheeky, isn't it? Certainly if you look back at the council's plans for the "public realm", and some councillors' aspirations for a station building of quality, the thing just looks all wrong.

But what did the plans say it would look like? This is Maxx Media's picture in the planning statement that's closest to mine. From there, of course you can't see the station - I went forward to the corner of Thames Tower, where you first can, so the lamp post is in my picture.
3563  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Planning? What planning? on: November 06, 2018, 18:03:47
They don't bring in the money!

But to whom? Who owns that bit of land? (And it would still need planing permission, wouldn't it?)
3564  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: November 06, 2018, 18:01:58
I've put this here because of my suspicious nature about these new trains...
From the train running info it states the 2003 Pad Ply is cancelled due to severe weather but the 2103 will run normally.  Now I know high tide at Dawlish is about 1730 so that's can't be the issue, so what is?

Now reads:
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20:03 London Paddington to Plymouth due 23:36 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Exeter St Davids.
It will no longer call at London Paddington, Reading, Newbury, Pewsey, Westbury, Castle Cary, Taunton and Tiverton Parkway.
This is due to forecasted severe weather.
Will be formed of 4 coaches instead of 10.
Additional Information
GWR (Great Western Railway) apologies for the cancellation of this service between London Paddington and Exeter St Davids due to forecast severe weather in Devon & Cornwall overnight Tuesday and Wednesday morning. The 21:03 London Paddington to Plymouth service will run as scheduled and customers are advised to board this service.

Somehow that doesn't look like the whole story, does it?
3565  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Planning? What planning? on: November 06, 2018, 17:52:17
You have to feel sorry for all those creative types at Grimshaw, who beaver away for years to make your new station look pretty, only to find one of these gets plonked down in front of it (this is your first view of the station from the end of Station Road).
3566  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture Overseas / Re: Train travels 57 miles without driver on: November 06, 2018, 17:27:53
Clearly it was going a lot faster than you'd like to see something that big do - and given that there's little gradient approaching Turner Siding it can't have been just gravity what done it. l.

I'll take that back - I think gravity might well have done it all alone.

It's not a familiar train or railway to us: very heavy (about 40,000 tons), almost straight after the first bit out of the hills, and a steady fall at about 1 in 300. It may be steeper at the start - though you do wonder why a stopping place wasn't level. At nearly 3 km long, it's a long run from near the back if you need to get to the front in a hurry - so it need not have accelerated from a stand very fast.

If it did average 110 km/hr, it must have gone a a lot faster in places, even if it did reach a balancing speed. So the first statement stands.
3567  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Evesham incident and possible follow-up strike action on: November 06, 2018, 10:35:47
Have I read this correct then

Passenger spits at guard
Passenger strikes guard with mobile phone (odd choice of weapon)
ALLEGED Guard then strikes back at passenger

All you have seen is from the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers). Obviously there is another side to it. It is just possible that the RMT's statement contained less than 100% of the known facts (including what is alleged and disputed), and it may even not have been perfectly objective in what it did say.
3568  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture Overseas / Re: Train travels 57 miles without driver on: November 06, 2018, 10:31:24
The Guardian's story originally included that quote from the ATSB, which came across the wires from Reuters. I guess someone else also thought the maths were a bit iffy and went back to the ATSB for clarification. The original quote is slowly disappearing from t'web. Its no longer on the ATSB website either.

The new timings are better but, as you say, it's still hard to believe such an average speed being attained. Being average, the train would have to have attained a significantly higher top speed than 70mph. Four locos and 268 loaded wagons don't, from a standing start, go like the proverbial excrement off a manual hole creating implement. Even if the falling gradient was at the top end of what such trains can manage.

The reports now agree on those figures, more or less. Of course that just means they all used the same source, not that they necessarily checked further. But this is a local report, from The West Australian:
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BHP says it expects it will take a week to clear the track and resume rail operations at its Pilbara iron ore operations after a massive train derailment that has raised serious safety concerns.

The mining giant was forced to deliberately derail a fully-laden 2.6km-long iron ore train early on Monday morning after the driver alighted to inspect a carriage and the train carried on unattended.

The train — with four locomotives and 268 wagons — careered for 92km at average speeds of 110km/h before it was derailed near Turner, about 120km south of Port Hedland.

BHP said it derailed the train from its remote operations centre about 50 minutes later by switching a set of points on the track.

No-one was injured but the company this morning estimated that about 1.5km of track had been damaged in the incident.

“At this stage we anticipate the recovery process to take about one week,” a spokeswoman said.
...

Clearly it was going a lot faster than you'd like to see something that big do - and given that there's little gradient approaching Turner Siding it can't have been just gravity what done it. That report has a picture of the mangled train, which supports the description; I couldn't get it the video to download at all.

3569  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: Hydrogen Trains on: November 05, 2018, 17:54:18
It is interesting to see that we import from France and the Netherlands whilst simultaneously export to Ireland.

How else do the Irish import from France, or indeed anywhere else? They are currently looking into a direct "Celtic Interconnector", for which some EU» (European Union - about) money would be forthcoming.
3570  Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion on: November 05, 2018, 17:24:07
The document refers to apertures and aspects, so we could call it a two-aperture, 4-aspect signal.

There's at least one place in the Handbook where an aperture is called an aspect (a diagram, so proof reading may not have been at fault). After so many years when aspect could be used for either sense with no ambiguities, it's going to take a long time for habits to change.
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