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« on: December 23, 2023, 08:26:22 »

Northern have cancelled all services on the following routes tomorrow due to staff shortage and are warning against attempting to travel - no rail replacement transport being arranged.

They are trying to get their journey planners updated as some are still showing normal service.

Morecambe/Heysham – Lancaster
Blackpool South – Colne
Wigan – Stalybridge
Clitheroe – Manchester Victoria
Manchester Victoria – Chester
Manchester Piccadilly – Chester (Via Altrincham)
Manchester Piccadilly - Crewe


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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2023, 10:07:41 »

Is this was privatisation was about?
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2023, 10:32:15 »

Is this was privatisation was about?

Northern was taken into public ownership in 2020.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2023, 10:48:25 »

Is this was privatisation was about?

There was a Service Level Commitment which provided a description of services to be provided on Monday to Friday, Saturday and Sunday - now sure what it said about Bank Holidays and "Holiday Shoulders", with the franchise holders doing their best to maximise their net receipts after running expenses were taken off.  I don't know what detail was in them about replacement transport.

The SLC (Service Level Commitment) for Swindon to Westbury over a decade ago was notorious ... "2 trains a day shall run each way from Swindon to Westbury on Monday to Saturdays. On Monday to Friday one service must arrive in Swindon before 08:30 and one must leave after 17:30.    Some bright spark in the old First Great Western Intercity team that won the right to operate the line, previously Wessex Trains, noted that an arrival into Swindon at 07:45 and a departure at 18:45 was allowed, and that if a train ran from Swindon at 06:15 it could effectively form the 07:45 arrival, using a unit off the Stroud Valley line that wasn't needed there until around 07:50 from Swindon,  and that with a train as late as 18:45, it had done its day on the Stround Valley and could run back into Swindon at around 20:20.   I don't think they ever expected the 06:15 departure and 20:20 arrival to do much business, but they were save the cost of hiring a train for the line.

The Sunday SLC was worse - it said "2 trains shall run from Westbury to Swindon" and we were treated to a couple of years of a northbound service only, with an empty train running the other way.  One of the early victories for common sense put that train into passenger service.

We have come a very, very long way since those days.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2023, 16:19:14 »

Not sure how that all fits in with this scenario however in the case of Northern Rail's services tomorrow, apparently managers were warned by the Trade Unions weeks ago that they wouldn't have enough staff volunteering to work tomorrow given it's not only a Sunday but Christmas Eve too so they should consider an incentive - but they ignored this and it was only midweek that they realised how dire things were looking and offered an additional £100, which was only taken up by about half a dozen people.

Hence tomorrow a lot of people are going to have a very difficult journey home for Christmas.

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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2023, 23:21:35 »

Tomorrow will be quiet.  Most folk will have travelled yesterday or today.
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2023, 08:42:05 »

Northern are warning that those services which do run are expected to be "extremely busy" and have now expanded their earlier warning to include;

DO NOT TRAVEL ON ALL ROUTES FROM 16:00 Sunday 24th December

Currently 374 cancellations listed.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2023, 09:10:33 »

Northern have cancelled all services on the following routes tomorrow due to staff shortage and are warning against attempting to travel - no rail replacement transport being arranged.

They are trying to get their journey planners updated as some are still showing normal service.

Morecambe/Heysham – Lancaster
Blackpool South – Colne
Wigan – Stalybridge
Clitheroe – Manchester Victoria
Manchester Victoria – Chester
Manchester Piccadilly – Chester (Via Altrincham)
Manchester Piccadilly - Crewe




That presumably means that anyone from northern England heading towards Chester or north Wales will need to travel via Liverpool and the slow crawl down the Wirral.

We were due to be heading to north Wales today (though not from the north) and I'm fairly glad not to be doing it, given the general uncertainty, though sad to miss out on the festivities once we got there. Unfortunately my partner has gone down with a winter bug and we won't be travelling anywhere.
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