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As I understand it, there are signalling issues with PPM‡ vehicles sharing lines with conventional trains, as they would have to running into Plymouth. Not so much signalling issues, but PPMs require a possession to operate in normal service AFAIK▸ due to their very light weight and the consequences that could occur with whamming into say, a HST▸ ... Tom I was also told that there could be a problem with PPM's and track circuits. |
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As I understand it, there are signalling issues with PPM‡ vehicles sharing lines with conventional trains, as they would have to running into Plymouth. Not so much signalling issues, but PPMs require a possession to operate in normal service AFAIK▸ due to their very light weight and the consequences that could occur with whamming into say, a HST▸ ... Tom I was also told that there could be a problem with PPM's and track circuits. Good luck with finding a track circuit between Bere Alston and Gunnislake  The line at Bere Alston could be kept totally separate from the Plymouth to Tavistock line as there are in theory three platforms that could be used... |
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As I understand it, there are signalling issues with PPM‡ vehicles sharing lines with conventional trains, as they would have to running into Plymouth. Not so much signalling issues, but PPMs require a possession to operate in normal service AFAIK▸ due to their very light weight and the consequences that could occur with whamming into say, a HST▸ ... Tom I was also told that there could be a problem with PPM's and track circuits. Good luck with finding a track circuit between Bere Alston and Gunnislake The line at Bere Alston could be kept totally separate from the Plymouth to Tavistock line as there are in theory three platforms that could be used... You misunderstand me, oooooo. I was talking about the general question of PPM's sharing the line with conventional trains, and wanted clarification on what someone had told me. If you look back, you will see that I am fully aware of the Bere Alston-Gunnislake situation : Page 3 of Plymouth City Council's Plymrail strategy contains a section on Tavistock (link below.) http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/plymrail.pdfParry People Movers are known to want to run a Bere Alston-Gunnislake shuttle service in the event of Bere Alston-Tavistock re-opening. |
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« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2008, 18:15:10 » |
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As I understand it, there are signalling issues with PPM‡ vehicles sharing lines with conventional trains, as they would have to running into Plymouth. Not so much signalling issues, but PPMs require a possession to operate in normal service AFAIK▸ due to their very light weight and the consequences that could occur with whamming into say, a HST▸ ... Tom I was also told that there could be a problem with PPM's and track circuits. Not really an issue - it can be sorted with the use of track circuit actuators, IIRC▸ most of the Sprinter fleet have these... |
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« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2008, 11:18:23 » |
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« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2008, 11:31:28 » |
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Interesting that the media has picked up specifically on the railway issue, given that the planning roadshows mentioned in the article seem to cover a wide range of issues.
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« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2008, 11:39:57 » |
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Yes - and I also noted the expansion proposals for Okehampton...
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« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2008, 11:59:06 » |
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Interesting that the media has picked up specifically on the railway issue, given that the planning roadshows mentioned in the article seem to cover a wide range of issues.
Isn't it? If and when I get the chance, I'll get an online petition running, and possibly a page on my website too. As has been mentioned already, I'm deeply into researching and writing my next book, but once that's signed, sealed, and delivered (hopefully by June), I'll be able to commit more fully to a concerted go at the Tavistock line. Meanwhile, if anyone wants to get things moving sooner, I'll be happy to offer my services... Andy |
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« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2008, 15:12:11 » |
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Devon County Council have informed me that they are negotiating to buy the trackbed. |
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« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2008, 16:51:33 » |
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Really does sound promising, ashamed to say I'm not brilliant with the geography of Tavistock, only been there once. Think a look on Google Maps is necessary.
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« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2008, 18:26:24 » |
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Devon County Council have informed me that they are negotiating to buy the trackbed. Buying it for what? railway or cycleway? |
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« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2008, 18:42:49 » |
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Devon County Council have informed me that they are negotiating to buy the trackbed. Buying it for what? railway or cycleway? Well as Devon County Council was very interested in Re-opening to Tavi back in the early 1990's we can only hope in it being for Rail use, or at worse Joint Rail/Cycle route! |
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« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2008, 09:58:02 » |
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Devon County Council have informed me that they are negotiating to buy the trackbed. Buying it for what? railway or cycleway? I dont know. To coin a phrase, "enquiries are continuing." |
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« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2008, 17:16:43 » |
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Hi all, Well, it looks as if there's a groundswell of support on the forum for a concerted effort on the Tavvy line, so, does anyone fancy a go? As Smokey mentioned a while back, I'm a little tied up writing my next book, but I think we need to get something off the ground sooner rather than later. So, if anyone's got the time and inclination to help do some digging, establish some contacts and write letters, do let me know: you can contact me via my website ( www.andrewroden.com). Lee, thanks ever so much for all the digging you've done already - it looks pretty darned positive from where I'm sitting... all we have to do is establish a rapport with Sustrans, win the confidence of local authorities and communities, generate a business case, get plenty of media coverage, and come up with (or persuade the DEpartment for Transport to do so) around ^10 million: easy! That doesn't mean we shouldn't give it a bloody good go though - you never know... Andy |
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« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2008, 17:23:39 » |
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Hi all, Well, it looks as if there's a groundswell of support on the forum for a concerted effort on the Tavvy line, so, does anyone fancy a go? As Smokey mentioned a while back, I'm a little tied up writing my next book, but I think we need to get something off the ground sooner rather than later. So, if anyone's got the time and inclination to help do some digging, establish some contacts and write letters, do let me know: you can contact me via my website ( www.andrewroden.com). Lee, thanks ever so much for all the digging you've done already - it looks pretty darned positive from where I'm sitting... all we have to do is establish a rapport with Sustrans, win the confidence of local authorities and communities, generate a business case, get plenty of media coverage, and come up with (or persuade the DEpartment for Transport to do so) around ^10 million: easy! That doesn't mean we shouldn't give it a bloody good go though - you never know... Andy You have my full support, and I will continue to help in any way I can. |
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