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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2008, 22:11:30 »

4,500 litres (am NOT a ned)  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2008, 22:12:51 »

4,500 litres (am NOT a ned)  Roll Eyes

whats a DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit)'s (say a 158) fuel tank size then?  Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2008, 22:14:15 »

You know the nozzle in a Petrol Station Diesel fuel Pump that goes in the car fuel tank is about 1 inch, 25.4mm to those converted types well the filler on Diesel trains is about 6inches, and you don't get sprayed with fuel you get bowled over.

Let's get over it Fueling doesn't get done in Stations.

Even the Ffestiniog railway Refuel away from Public areas.
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2008, 22:50:16 »

You know the nozzle in a Petrol Station Diesel fuel Pump that goes in the car fuel tank is about 1 inch, 25.4mm to those converted types well the filler on Diesel trains is about 6inches, and you don't get sprayed with fuel you get bowled over.

Let's get over it Fueling doesn't get done in Stations.

Even the Ffestiniog railway Refuel away from Public areas.

Well I make the point of using the HGV pumps which are oft 3 inches - but then I do drive a pick up truck with a commercial tank!

As I said - I can understand why modern H&S (Health and Safety) don't refuel in stations - just don't agree with it.

The same way I don't agree with pharmacists having to give long spiel about what you can take with paracetamol - if you don't understand the risk of what you are doing - I hope you die before you pass your genes onto the next generation
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2008, 06:08:50 »

4500 litres per power car as oooo states.....think you will find filliing up the tanks forms part of a nightly fuel point exam, where various items are checked/tested/replaced.... folks there is a lot more to it than taking your HST (High Speed Train)/Unit to a train filling station so to speak, also each set is then subject to a vigorus Train prep exam and passed fit to enter service.....bit like a car Mot but done every day.
So when you see the words train fault appear just think for a while
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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2008, 13:26:28 »

4500 litres per power car as oooo states.....think you will find filliing up the tanks forms part of a nightly fuel point exam, where various items are checked/tested/replaced.... folks there is a lot more to it than taking your HST (High Speed Train)/Unit to a train filling station so to speak, also each set is then subject to a vigorus Train prep exam and passed fit to enter service.....bit like a car Mot but done every day.
So when you see the words train fault appear just think for a while
Back in the good old days of Canton doing FPX's the unit's came off depot with more faults than when thay got there!
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2008, 15:11:49 »

I think we should also remember how big any trains fuel tank is, would take a few jerry cans to fill one up!

How big is a tank on a HST (High Speed Train)?



couple of hundred gallons I think? maybe more? you'll know Jim!! Wink

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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2008, 17:01:46 »

1000 gallons per power car
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2008, 12:22:21 »

Slightly curious, but what stations/deopts nearby that FGW (First Great Western) have services to have refueling facilities?

old oak defiently has one, also reading depot does as well, bristol ( SPM (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot)) ) has one, oxford has one, penzance, westbury, exeter
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2008, 09:39:31 »

There is not only the safety issue to think about when considering refueling at stations.  Many platforms are already at capacity, do you want them to be tied up further with something that could be done better at a depot?  In the old days when trains were fuels with coal, there was presumably no safety issue, but I don't think many trains were refueled at platforms.

You might be able to think of a few remote stations where refueling at a station from a road tanker might make sense but in general the practice does not make either safety or operational sense.
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