1952
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Minehead Rail Link Group
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on: August 23, 2020, 16:48:08
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For the Butlins traffic, I feel that the longer term aim should be to build a Butlins station within the holiday camp site. The walk from train to holiday accommodation would then be no longer than from a car.
IMHO▸ , this should be partly funded by Butlins, and partly funded from the public purse in order to encourage sustainable transport choices.
This new station could be either on a loop from the existing line in order that trains could still run to/from Minehead via Butlins, or a single ended branch terminating within the camp. This would require portion working to still serve Minehead.
"This train is for Butlins and Minehead town. This train divides en route. Join the front 8 coaches for Butlins. Join the rear 4 coaches for Minehead town"
In the reverse direction, that portion of the train starting from Butlins could be at the new station in plenty of time without delaying anything else. Ample time for boarding with luggage, children, cycles, dogs etc.
Portion working is easy with DMUs▸ or new battery trains, and entirely achievable with steam locomotives, though more trouble. Steam haulage right into the holiday camp could be an attraction in its own right. A modern battery train could be attractive for environmental reasons.
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1953
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Minehead Rail Link Group
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on: August 23, 2020, 16:24:51
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As regards fares, one possible solution might be to charger higher fares (similar to the present fares) for peak season heritage trains, and lower fares (similar to those elsewhere on network rail) for the of season trains.
To avoid disadvantaging local residents who travel regularly including during the heritage season, offer monthly season tickets all year around but based on the off season fares.
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1954
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Minehead Rail Link Group
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on: August 22, 2020, 14:11:07
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This is IMHO▸ another example of the regrettably fragmented nature of the West Somerset Railway. Getting all the groups that make up the WSR to agree is bad enough, without considering the challenges presented by network rail and GWR▸ .
I can think of various possibilities as to what type of train to use, but in my view the important factor is to get an ALL YEAR round service operating at least between Taunton and Minehead. Steam would be expected in the holiday season, but at other times almost anything that is safe, reliable, comfortable and of sufficient capacity would serve.
Most passengers would be satisfied by any of the following. Class 159 or similar. Preserved HST▸ . Heritage DMU▸ . Preserved diesel loco and coaches. A new battery loco hauling heritage coaches. A newly built battery train. A battery train converted from existing stock. Steam, too expensive for regular use in the off season, but a possibility if needed.
More important than rolling stock is persuading TPTB▸ to allow 40/45 MPH running on the WSR, and to permit heritage stock on the short bit of network rail track to Taunton.
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1960
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Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: "GWR buys vehicles outright in HST fleet expansion"
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on: August 19, 2020, 13:18:05
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I suppose that extra intermediate vehicles could be added, up to say 7, 8, or even 9 passenger vehicles whilst only needing two power cars. These extra vehicles could include useful facilities not found on newer stock. Bulky holiday luggage, cycles and even surfboards could be conveyed in the power cars. It might even be possible to run these longer trains to and from London.
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1961
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Night Sleeper - next generation
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on: August 18, 2020, 14:12:45
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I was lucky enough to fly Emirates Business Class in a "bed" and both the experience and the service received throughout were something the railways could probably only dream of. It would be interesting to see the two go "head to head" for quality. Give it a try Broadgage, you may surprise yourself - they even have Port on aircraft these days! I would be reluctant to fly, due to concerns about climate change, even if enticed by Port. I am also VERY doubtful about improvised sleeping arrangements, and try to avoid folding beds, air beds, camp beds, sofa beds, and any bed that converts from something else. Folding beds=risk of collapse Air beds=burst or leak. Camp beds=risk of the canvas ripping and dumping me on the ground.
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1963
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Night Sleeper - next generation
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on: August 16, 2020, 23:53:30
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The merit of the sleeper is the provision of a proper flat bed in a private room. In which one may change in privacy and sleep in proper bedding.
Any improvisations involving airline seats that sort of convert into not a proper flat bed, would be a significant downgrade. And experiences of both GWR▸ and new rolling stock suggest a lot of extra things to go wrong. Seat wont fold into ersatz bed. Fake bed wont change back into a seat. Gets stuck part way. Privacy screen drops off or gets stuck. GWR forget to supply pillows and blankets. Bookings don't work, or get transferred to a different service. Hitachi sends wrong train. Train cancelled from Plymouth as wont couple to the other portion.
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1964
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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: HST derailment, near Stonehaven, 12th August 2020
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on: August 15, 2020, 20:06:23
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Yes, derailed rail vehicles can be recovered by rail mounted cranes, or very exceptionally by a road crane. In this particular case, most vehicles look beyond economic repair, and that together with the remote location suggests cutting up at the accident scene. It is easier to move the debris if cut up first. No one is going to authorise major repairs to HST▸ vehicles, much more economic to simply scrap them, and save alternative vehicles for re-use that would otherwise be scrapped.
I recall a relatively modern class 66 loco that was derailed in a most inaccessible location. Recovery was ruled out as being virtually impossible, it was therefore dismantled at the scene with some components recovered for re-use and the remainder scrapped. The cheapest option would have been to simply abandon it, but that is not acceptable these days.
EDIT TO ADD▸ , post #59 that was made whilst I was typing, and the youtube link in post 59, shows the difficulties in a remote location.
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