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« Reply #1935 on: July 06, 2017, 19:58:41 »

Realtime Trains is suggesting the 15:49 Paddington - Moreton-in-Marsh has been stationary near the Heathrow Airport Junction since 16:12 (as at 19:56). Is that really the case, or what have GWR (Great Western Railway) managed to do with services which had departed from Paddington and then got caught up in the chaos?
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« Reply #1936 on: July 06, 2017, 20:12:03 »

This thread should be forwarded to the DfT» (Department for Transport - about). It's an excellent catalogue of the frequent failings of infrastructure in the Thames Valley. The ministers in the department need to start kicking butts at Network Rail.

It's a public thread ... anyone is free to forward a copy and judging by the number of "like"s you have, someone probably has already.
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« Reply #1937 on: July 06, 2017, 20:16:09 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) could IMHO (in my humble opinion) have done better WRT (with regard to ) informing and assisting passengers, but we must remember that the root cause is the failure of network rail infrastructure, yet again.

Does anyone know how many people have been trapped on trains for hours, and are there any plans for rescue/evacuation ?

And what about those with longer journeys to make, is it just a case of sleeping on the concourse at Paddington, or there any plans to obtain taxis or coaches to Cornwall ?
For those who can get home via Waterloo, are there any plans to run an all night service from Waterloo to Exeter etc. And connecting taxis.

In short, is anyone in authority actually DOING ANYTHING to help those stranded, or is it just a case of hoping for the best. (and hiding)
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1938 on: July 06, 2017, 20:27:48 »

Realtime Trains is suggesting the 15:49 Paddington - Moreton-in-Marsh has been stationary near the Heathrow Airport Junction since 16:12 (as at 19:56). Is that really the case, or what have GWR (Great Western Railway) managed to do with services which had departed from Paddington and then got caught up in the chaos?

I think there have been problems with the feeds these sites rely on - see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15702.msg216277#msg216277
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« Reply #1939 on: July 06, 2017, 20:33:06 »

Realtime Trains is suggesting the 15:49 Paddington - Moreton-in-Marsh has been stationary near the Heathrow Airport Junction since 16:12 (as at 19:56). Is that really the case, or what have GWR (Great Western Railway) managed to do with services which had departed from Paddington and then got caught up in the chaos?

I think there have been problems with the feeds these sites rely on - see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15702.msg216277#msg216277

I suspected that might have been the case but - even so - what did happen to that service (and others)? Did it eventually get through to Reading or was it sent back towards Paddington?

Edit - Realtime Trains is now showing it having arrived at Slough 269 minutes late, and National Rail Enquiries says it will arrive at Moreton-in-Marsh at 21:45!
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« Reply #1940 on: July 06, 2017, 20:37:29 »

Realtime Trains is suggesting the 15:49 Paddington - Moreton-in-Marsh has been stationary near the Heathrow Airport Junction since 16:12 (as at 19:56). Is that really the case,

Looks like it is, as it has just arrived Slough, 269 late
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« Reply #1941 on: July 06, 2017, 20:54:17 »

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London Paddington Signalling has been restored and lines are now open. Apologies for the disruption.

06 Jul 17 - 20:49

Well that apology really sounds sincere.......... Tongue
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« Reply #1942 on: July 06, 2017, 20:57:52 »

Reading right now !

Three hours on and halfway home.

Reading overbridge is heaving - why - there are no local TV trains until 23:13

How is this justified ??
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« Reply #1943 on: July 06, 2017, 21:13:41 »

As if it wasn't bad enough for the passengers on the 15:49, it has now just been held at Kennet Loop for around 10 minutes whilst a class 7 freight was routed through, has now arrived Reading 292 late
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« Reply #1944 on: July 06, 2017, 21:35:56 »

As if it wasn't bad enough for the passengers on the 15:49, it has now just been held at Kennet Loop for around 10 minutes whilst a class 7 freight was routed through, has now arrived Reading 292 late

And left 312 late - that's over five hours. That is some delay whatever the length of journey.
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« Reply #1945 on: July 06, 2017, 22:04:15 »

Actually arrived 312 late and terminated there (maybe not surprisingly, I'm sure the crew are out of hours).  So still a bit longer to wait for those going towards the Cotswold Line.
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« Reply #1946 on: July 06, 2017, 22:21:42 »

Ooooo I'm going to hit these f**** with a big taxi bill this evening. With a vengeance.
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« Reply #1947 on: July 06, 2017, 22:23:43 »

No, it arrived 292 late, and then as Charles said it departed 312 late, hence why RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) says 16:19 - 21:11 (292). It says 312 late because that was the time it did depart,  perhaps it continued empty or as a different headcode, but I saw it leave on OTT (Open Train Times website) around 21:30
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« Reply #1948 on: July 06, 2017, 22:48:23 »

No, it arrived 292 late, and then as Charles said it departed 312 late, hence why RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) says 16:19 - 21:11 (292). It says 312 late because that was the time it did depart,  perhaps it continued empty or as a different headcode, but I saw it leave on OTT (Open Train Times website) around 21:30

Might it have become this service, 1Z41 2132 RDG(resolve) to Worcester Shrub Hill?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O10218/2017/07/06/advanced
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« Reply #1949 on: July 06, 2017, 23:03:38 »

Just leaving Waterloo on the 2258 to Windsor.. under normal circumstances I'd have been on the 1742 from Paddington-Maidenhead and may have been able to say goodnight to my kids......I believe there are some people who are "proud" to work on the railways. Time to look in the mirror & think very hard.
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