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Sideshoots - associated subjects / News, Help and Assistance / Pls kp yr psts n Engl.
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on: April 25, 2013, 05:36:39
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Please keep your posts in English!I was reminded how difficult it is for newcomers to discussions on rail subjects to pick up whst's being said if the text is full of abbreviations when I saw this (From http://www.bloodandcustard.org/hdl2011rochester01.html) the other day: Running late 1001 was able to continue on to Rochester where decisions were quickly made by GDrf as to how to continue with the trip. Instead of a reversal at Paddock Wood the Mystery Tour would detrain at Tonbridge in order to pick up an EDL from Tonbridge West Yard. Has one of the recently refurbished GLVs being facing country then it may also have been added! And there has been comment here that some members are dropping rather deeply into abbreviations - to the extent that they are making their posts hard to read. Please remember our guidelines: Stylea. I would like to discourage the use of texting language as it's not universally understood. We have a common language in English and we're talking about a British company and operation in England and Wales - so really we should all stick to posts in standard English to be universally understood by our readers. b. Please try to cut down on the number of acronyms you use - we DO have an acronym page on which I try to list them all as they come up, but at times I get my GOSW» mixed up with my GOBLs▸ - so what must it do to the newcomers? If you introduce an acronym to make your post less verbose, please define it the first time in full. Five years old (so many new members will have missed it), but still looks good to me. Not only do clear posts help people reading you - they also help you enhance your standing here!
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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: FGW Rover and Ranger price increases from May 19th 2013
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on: April 24, 2013, 18:44:53
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Still represent good value for money, i'd say.
Agreed - if it's the right product for you. People forget one round of fare rises when the next round comes along ... and I've forgotten whether any fares rose in September of last year (anyone?). I know that a fare I had bought a number of times rose by a mouth-drying amount in December, and then rose again in January; that resulted in correspondence telling me that the January rise was in line with the various regulated figures that were being bandied around at the time. And now rovers and rangers are rising in considerable excess of both annual inflation, and indeed in excess of RPI▸ plus even 3%. If fares are going to rise multiple times in a year, it seems misleading to describe one set of the rises as "annual" ones, and it seems doubly misleading to quote the percentage rise at that time of year as the "annual percentage". I would have no objection to fares being revised twice a year; it would reduce the stampede for annual seasons for example, but if annual figures are to be quoted they should include both rises. Three or four price changes in an upwards direction during the year is getting excessive.
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Portishead Line reopening for passengers - ongoing discussion
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on: April 24, 2013, 18:26:51
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Looking at some pictures of the Manchester tram extensions, it strikes me that there are lots of new road / rail level crossings. What makes them acceptable when a very low speed (as I understand it) at Portishead would not be? Would Portishead be better served by tram / light rail vehicles which reached Temple Meads from the Cumberland Road area via the south side of the Floating Harbour and Redcliffe Way - or even Welsh Back and Victoria Street?
Yes, the Portishead trains could easily take this crossing at very low speed. As for tram or light rail... is your tongue planted firmly in your cheek? Yes, it is ... and it's also pointing out the irony of potentially different rules / guidelines for essentially the same crossing, depending on whether they turn left or go straight ahead the the Cumberland Basin.
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Portishead Line reopening for passengers - ongoing discussion
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on: April 24, 2013, 15:45:29
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One other thing to come out of the more positive responses was a clear call for the ORR» to consider a level crossing at Quays Avenue, despite their stated policy of 'no new level crossings'
I suspect that a statue of Jimmy Savile would be more likely to be approved than a level crossing in the current climate. Looking at some pictures of the Manchester tram extensions, it strikes me that there are lots of new road / rail level crossings. What makes them acceptable when a very low speed (as I understand it) at Portishead would not be? Would Portishead be better served by tram / light rail vehicles which reached Temple Meads from the Cumberland Road area via the south side of the Floating Harbour and Redcliffe Way - or even Welsh Back and Victoria Street?
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Where was I last weekend? Picture quiz
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on: April 23, 2013, 22:24:44
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Researching Dungeness lead me to Lydd which lead me to the Hastings demu site .... There are two issues which are occupying us at present:
The funding and fitting of GSM-R▸ radio which is becoming mandated throughout the UK▸ ^s main-line railway network, and is almost unbelievably expensive;
The apparent ORR» Insurance Cap Regulation Change Proposal which, if enacted, would greatly increase our risk in terms of business liability when running railtours, and could require us to raise fares by perhaps ^30 per head just to cover the additional insurance costs. http://www.hastingsdiesels.co.uk/railtours/Goodness ....
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Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: Councillor calls for share of ^30billion for Plymouth.
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on: April 23, 2013, 08:47:53
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Ah, but any councillor worthy of their salt wouldn't want mere facts to get in the way of scoring their particular point, would they ... ? Good God, No!! Councillors are there because no-one else fancies doing anything to improve the lot of their constituents, or for that matter, listening to anybody who takes the trouble to contact them. On another thread, we read of a lady who has so upset her democratically-elected representatives, by the simple expedient of asking questions, that they have declared her personna non grata .... Where I live in Wiltshire, there are many parishes from Bedwyn in the east through to Melksham Without (where I live) in the west where there's more places available than candidates in the current elections. Meaning that anyone who wants to can get on. Many / most are good and well intentioned, but there's almost a desparation at times from existing members to seek and persuade new people who may not have an appropriate wideranging depth of knowledge, patience or time to do a good job. And if strange suggestions / poor decisions are made, then perhaps it falls to the community as a whole (and those people who would have been good candidates, but actually do nothing for their communities) to look at themselves and say "I have only myself to blame if I don't like the decisions taken, as I chose not to get involved". I would love to be able to vote for a local (Parish) councillor on 2nd May; I rejoice that I will be able to help select my unitary councillor. I know two of the candidates better than most, and have a great respect for both of them.
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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture - related rail and other transport issues / Re: More expensive station parking to decimate train use or are there other factors?
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on: April 23, 2013, 08:38:54
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One of the reasons for Fishguard & Goodwick station reopening was supposedly the expensive car parking at Fishguard Harbour. Sadly openning Goodwick meant the buses stopped serving Fishguard Harbour, meaning the vastly superior facilities for interchange (waiting room and toilets) at the harbour are no longer available for connecting passengers, except perhaps one train a day when the buses go down to the harbour for the ferry.
But wasn't there just one bus to train connection available anyway at the Harbour? As I recall trains were twice a day - lunchtime / early afternoon, and in the middle of the night. You're saying that buses still go down to the ferry and connect with the daytime train there, so I'm not sure I can see that anything has been lost - or are you simply commenting that it could have been done more / differently with the interchange point of choice between road and rail being at the pre-exisiting station rather than the new one?
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All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: 50 years on ... how should we look forward to the next 50 years?
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on: April 22, 2013, 16:04:13
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I wonder which will be the first heritage line to be electrified ? there is growing interest in early electric units and many would no doubt like to see them running under their own power.
You have major safety issues with electricity and volunteers, etc ... there's heritage electric stock in Coventry and East Kent, but I don't think the stock runs in either place. I suspect that little of it is actually runnable in Coventry anyway. There's open (ex railway yard) land to the South West of Brockenhurst station, and perhaps that would make an ideal spot for a preserved electric train depot. The Brockenhust to Lymington line would make an excellent stamping ground, bringing tourist to the area, and providing a service which could be run isolated from the main network when running heritage units, with commercial units (there are some class 508s in store at Eastleigh) running the rest of the service. There's a bit of a precendent here as heritage electric units used to run on - err - the Lymington branch!
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All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: 50 years on ... how should we look forward to the next 50 years?
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on: April 22, 2013, 06:28:02
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Welcome, RedSquirrel - there seems a logic in running daily services on some of the preserved lines - especially those which would be included in a list of lines that really should not have been closed in the 1960s / 1970s. But ... there are issues.
If you're going to look at year-round commuter services, you'll need national rail / franchise style reliability figures to encourage your users - and that's probably a paid staff rather than volunteers. And you'll need a certain size of town / line catchment to bring in the people. Also note that a commuter-only service, if it provides one "up" in the morning and "down" in the evening will provide for just 50% of possible commuter traffic even if optimally timed, and that such timings will require different crews at each end of the day, which when you add holiday cover too probably brings you up to 3 drivers and 3 train managers. Most if not all of the preserved lines in our area have a predominant directionallity - one way in the a.m., back in the p.m., with connectionallity at one end only, and so even if you see a full private train, it's likely to be for a tiny part of the day and not matched by the corresponding reverse working half an hour earlier / later, as there's no-one actually on that train to see it almost empty. Then you have the 25 mph speed limit; there's no need to run an HST▸ at full speed, but 25 mph is wy too slow IMHO▸ .
I've added a list of the standard gauge preserved / relaid lines that I'm aware of in our wider area, and their connectional status. Very few of them would provide complete commuter journeys without ongoing national rail connections or through running. There ain't much work at Bodmin Road, Cholsey or Smallbrook.
Group 1 - Own Platform at interchange Bodmin Kingswear Wallingford Parkhead Newport IOW Alresford Buckfastleigh
Group 2 - Running on NR» tracks Swanage Minehead Okehampton
Group 3 - No rail connection Helston Cricklade Bitton Plym Valley
Not sure about some other's current connection status Chinnor Shepton Mallet
I'm able to provide background / some guestimate figures / referenced to the above; they make fairly depressing thoughts. Some of the issues could be overcome, but with the heavy importance and cost of blame attribution for delays, the need for access for all, and safety issues which require rail to be much safer than other transport systems mile for mile, costs are likely to be so high. And with any new service along these lines, users need to be certain they can rely on it for the foreseen length of their job, and to be persuaded to move across to the service. That's why seed funding or guarantee is needed, and why the inclusion within a mainframe franchise or equivalent - at least of a minimum spec service that fulfills travel needs - is paramount.
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