It also means that the first train will not be a high speed but a local service which is already getting pretty full. My partner uses it every day to get to work (she catches it because it is the only train that she can get a seat on, anything later is too packed). It used to be fairly quiet, but in the last few years it has become much busier. The thought of it also taking extra passengers from the 06.09 is deeply worrying.

I try to avoid having to use the peak hour services because it is impossible to ever get a seat on them, but occasionally I have to. Last Wednesday (Nov 9) I caught the 08.13 from Oldfield Park to Temple Meads. It was standing all the way down when it arrived, a lot of people got off (inc 20 schoolchildren from the carriage I boarded) but many more got on, and was standing nose to nose down every carriage. At Keynsham some got off and some managed to get on, but I counted at least 50 left on the platform unable to board.

The train was on time and 4 carriages, so I assume (and from what people were saying) this was actually a fairly normal situation, not something unusual for that service. If so, it is disgraceful.

This is the first I've heard about this. Is this referring to the 06.09 Bath Spa to Glasgow Central service?

It was actually first mentioned soon after 6am on Radio 4, that news was coming in about an incident where a tram had come off the rails and there were several injured. By the time I left to catch a train before 8am I knew from the radio that there had been fatalities, so they were reporting it, though I fully agree that it should have been given greater prominence.

Speaking as a train passenger, the vulnerability of passengers who always have to stand for their journeys does concern me, especially when combined with relatively high speeds. We may be safe on the rails but it doesn't always feel like that when you are being thrown around (though I do feel even less safe having to stand on buses which, with some drivers, can feel positively dangerous).

If anyone can reply to my original question I would be grateful - whether it is likely that a delayed train would be forgotten about on the screen and left on there after it had actually departed.

I don't think any of the Holyhead-Cardiff services have first class on them.

They do usually (but not always) have a trolley service, but it often only operates for part of the length of the journey. I think the trolley service people operate to/from Shrewsbury, and quite often only service either to or from there, not both on the same service (at least that what announcements I've heard have implied).

A year or two ago there was a woman on the Brook Road bridge looking over Oldfield Park station painting the scene (it looked a similar sized painting to this one). I saw her there a few times, so she was taking it very seriously, and similarly the painting looked very professional.

I was in Cardiff last Thursday (October 27th) and went to catch the train back to Bristol at 3.30pm. The screen in the station foyer was showing the 12.39 train to Carmarthen (which starts in Manchester) was Delayed. Nearly 3 hours late seemed pretty exceptional to me, so I went over to the information stand, which is directly opposite the screen, and asked what had happened to this train. The man there didn't seem to have noticed it (despite the screen facing directly towards the stand) and said he didn't know, and then said "Perhaps they have forgotten to take it off the screen." Is that likely? Seems pretty odd that a train would just be left on the screen for 3 hours without anyone noticing. Does anyone know what had happened to this train?

Out of interest, as a general rule, who is responsible for putting up info like this - GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) or the local council? (and yes I know the two should be working together but I suspect that doesn't always happen as well as it could).

I assume that as the station will be owned by GWR any info that does go up would need their permission anyway?

I'm interested to know what the advice is if a train is cancelled, and (such as in the Chippenham example) that train would have been full seating and the next train coming can be expected to also have a full load. Would it be allowed to carry another full load's worth of passengers, all standing?

We go up to Bangor quite often as my partner is from Anglesey, so know this route well. We always go via Newport (cheaper prices and much prettier route in the Welsh borders) but note that the connection times at Newport can be very tight, especially if you have luggage, as you usually need to cross over the footbridge for your connecting train (and I wouldn't recommend having to wait an hour in Newport, which we've had to do a few times. 

One of the early morning services from Bangor which returns from Cardiff around 5ish is I think subsidised by the Welsh Assembly to promote business use, and serves some nice food as well as being more spacious, so worth using if it is suitable.

It was a bit chaotic when we all first got out, and I couldn't get any definite info to begin with, so went out to see if a bus was due, and one was. With the diverted train having been pretty full, some of us thought it possible we wouldn't be able to get on the next one anyway as it would presumably also be busy when it arrived and might not enough room.

I've used the bus a few times previously and it has always taken a fairly contorted route around Corsham and Rudloe, but the route in Chippenham has I think changed to take in more estates. I think it took 25 minutes before we escaped the confines of the town, and that was without any hold ups.

As a newbie just catching up with a few threads. Oldfield Park is my local station, and I would say 'squashed' is an understatement of the situation on these services, and on many of the morning peak services. Very occasionally, people haven't been able to board at all, especially at Keynsham.

I would be tempted to challenge the figures for those travelling, which I assume come from ticket sales from the stations. I know that many people who use Oldfield Park buy tickets from Bath, as they can't get them at Oldfield Park (queues often too long in the morning) and having a return to Bath Spa allows much greater choice of return services (when I have to queue on Temple Meads platform for up to 15 minutes to buy my ticket to get there, many others I hear are doing the same). So mys suspicion is that those figures are an underestimate of the growth in users. In the ten years I've lived here, it looks to me that usage has increased by far more.

I was one of the passengers on this service, heading for Bath. As nobody at Chippenham station seemed to be able to say whether the next services would also be delayed, I and a few others caught the regular bus service that stops outside Chippenham station. It seems to go an awful long way round to get out of Chippenham!

Yes that Paignton train is the one I would usually aim to use to get down to Devon and Cornwall. I'm pretty certain it used to be a Penzance service until a year ago.