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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion
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on: December 22, 2019, 19:45:44
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While the report I found last night talks about Integrale (or its use in GWR▸ ) being new within the last year, its date (which I missed out) was 2017. Integrale itself goes back even further, though it looks as if its use was rather narrower for stock allocation and has grown. It is one of a whole soup-bowl of acronyms for what Network Rail have called Railway Code Systems (there's a catalogue of them). Some of those are obviously industry-wide, for example if NR» runs them and everyone else joins in. For others, such as Integrale, it's less clear - for example this is NR's catalogue entry from 2015: Overview: INTEGRALE combines data about the train service and its actual running with diagram and resource information and their associated rolling stock allocations and crew rosters. It is used as a real-time decision support tool within the controls to ensure the right resources are in the right place at the right time. Data is interfaced (from a wide range of industry and local systems) and can also be manually input. It enables users to have access to other businesses data (security permitting) to allow industry collaboration during times of disruption. Of course the way software uses networking these days makes such a distinction hard to draw anyway, though if you're head of IT and security at one TOC▸ it might interest you. As an aside, this thread on railforums included several posts at the end from user JN114 - who works at GWR and describes the shuffling of information about train formations, part-manual and part-automatic, between acronyms to reach station displays. It replaced a system called GENIUS which many would like to go back to......
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion
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on: December 15, 2019, 22:24:03
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As far as negotiations are concerned we are not able to share details of this for wider discussion until we have done a deal. We will, of course, keep you informed when a deal is confirmed.
Thank you. I wasn't asking for any details other than whether it is still expected (or hoped) to be resolved as planned for next December. We face another summer of significant cancellations on Sundays next year sadly - my feeling is that any extra staff numbers will be outweighed by the additional trains in the timetable - but hopefully that will be the last one if a deal can be done in time. We hope that it will be concluded as soon as possible. As soon as possible.... what a joke, this has been going on for years, other grades were given new deals and contracts for 24/7 working many years ago, removing the age old BR▸ constraints and giving staff decent pay and conditions, why have GWR▸ (and other TOCS) have been so reluctant to negotiate the same deal with ASLEF» is the question.....
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues
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on: November 19, 2019, 19:05:12
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An IET▸ should perform better than an HST▸ in leaf fall or otherwise slippery conditions, because a greater proportion of the total weight is on powered wheels. My concern is that the great complexity of the IETs and the (over?)reliance on computers might lead to a "computer says no" situation when the train could otherwise have proceeded.
Yes indeed, a clear benefit of MU▸ working over loco and coaches. The HST also had ‘computer says no’ moments when dealing with wheel slide in the form of a ‘locked axle’ warning. You had to reset the system and do a rotation test every time which was a pain. Blimey, that’s stretching it a bit 😀. Computer!!! The locked axle detection was a bolt on to the BR▸ MKII wheelslide rack fitted to power cars some years after build. The ones for ECML▸ had an upgrade when they were refurbed, but GWR▸ didn’t have the full refurb, they didn’t take the Brush Traction Control system, which included wheelslide equipment. Two of the GWR powers did have it, when they took them 43053 &43056. They also had an improved wheelslip control system, the Driver could leave the power handle open instead of notching offf and the traction control would compensate.
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues
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on: November 15, 2019, 22:48:50
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No factors can excuse putting 10 cars on the 1415 to Cardiff then 5 on the 1445 to Swansea. This genius did it again tonight. If it's not incompetence, it's misconduct. Either way they should be dismissed. Do you have their name or job title so I can report them? I
Perhaps 'Incider' can comment further? But a couple of potential factors: The 14:15 Cardiff sets then form the 16:56 Cardiff to Paddington which I would imagine is also quite busy, but, more importantly, those sets then form the 19:30 Paddington to Weston-Super-Mare. That's the first super off-peak train from Paddington to places like Bath and Bristol and is also a very busy train. I expect the many hundreds of passengers wanting that train would congratulate the decision to form that diagram with 10-cars instead of 5-cars rather than think someone should be dismissed. The Swansea set works a much later train out of Paddington as its final run of the day. Also, if you were to swap the 10-car train onto the 14:45 to Swansea, then your set for the 14:15 to Cardiff would be formed off of a train arriving at 14:14. Even with that train arriving 5 minutes early today, you would then be looking at a late start. I can only trust what the Managing Director has said which is that there is much less maintenance after the December timetable so availability should be a lot better. If it isn't and we do get significant numbers of shortforms on busy trains from then onwards, I will soon be taking the side of those who have said 5-car trains were not the right decision. Finally, on a slight tangent, we're in the middle of the leaf fall period, yet the IETs▸ are proving pretty good at dealing with that - so much so that I don't think the leaf fall season has been mentioned on here this year yet. By now in previous years we'd no doubt have been dealing with HSTs▸ getting stuck up Dainton/Rattery/Hemerdon and Campden Banks, or losing loads of time, and no doubt there would have been many more cancellations as a result of that. A shortform is better than no train at all. Not sure I can add much more, Hitachi and GWR▸ confer during the night to allocate units to diagrams, just as when it was GWR allocating their own units the GWR TSC’s (who have the intimate diagram knowledge) will say what goes uncovered or shortformed (as they always have done), whether that means swaps in the day or altering the depot departures in the morning. The only thing that might alter that is units that need to stop for exams and have mileage limitations. Even that is usually mitigated with swaps in the daytime. The reasoning given for diagramming short on one service to benefit others is well explained above and I can add nothing. The 800/802 is suffering far less from wheel slip and slide than the HST fleet did, I’m sure those who travel on them regularly will notice the improvement in wheel flats, the HST’s were pretty noisy at times. The improved tractive and braking grip will give Drivers confidence, improve timings and safety. The number of gotchas HST v 800 is significantly less, in favour of HST’s.
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues
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on: October 31, 2019, 20:05:17
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The mishap at Penzance resulted in no loss of life, and AFAIK▸ no injuries, the damage certainly looks repairable, I would be astonished if the vehicle is scrapped as a result. Therefore it seems reasonable to refer to this as a minor accident.
This is how the road vehicle industry categorises A Scrap – complete vehicle crushed without any components being removed. B Break – body-shell/chassis crushed without any structural components being removed. S Structurally damaged but repairable. N Non-structurally damaged but repairable. And I would be a-MAZED if the Longrock unit is worse than an N. Minor in damage, but may be expensive to fix. Rather depends on whether they're built for each component switching (Lego train) if something gets damaged Everything on trains is expensive to fix.....
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues
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on: October 31, 2019, 17:22:46
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Leaving aside the exact cause of the mishap at Penzance, it must be accepted that these sorts of minor accidents are part of running a railway. It might never happen again in the exact same place, but it seems a reasonable supposition that something similar will happen again somewhere.
Fleet size and maintenance/repair arrangements really should allow for this sort of thing.
For two years we have had regular short formations, with various excuses offered. If a single minor and entirely foreseeable mishap results in short formations for a few months, that is very poor indeed.
Years ago, I forecast that short formations would be a regular feature. I based this forecast not on any detailed study or analysis, but simply on experience of other new train fleets. Progress I know, but still regrettable.
Not sure I’d call in minor, if the bill was coming out of my pocket......
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