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76  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: Our first Interrail tour on: April 08, 2024, 03:57:05
A fantastic summary, thank you.  You are spot on by saying it widens the view of what could be done - and what should not be done - in the UK (United Kingdom) too, not only in railway terms but more generally.  There are times it makes you realise how lucky we are (the last few days have made we realise that) and at times how behind the times we are.  And there are time, yes, when the local systems known well to people who live in these countries are daunting / worrisome to the outsider.  I look forward to reading your further feedback.
77  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: Our first Interrail tour on: April 07, 2024, 21:05:20
c) A different bar code for each day
78  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Breaking the £1 per mile fare barrier on: April 07, 2024, 20:25:21
Culrain to Invershin is £2 for a 32 chain, 1 minute journey - £5 per mile.

That used to be something of a special case as it was a VERY long way round except by the train - someone told me 20 miles. I think it still is by road, but you can now walk across the rail bridge?   Can someone confirm that?
79  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: Station facilities in The Baltics on: April 07, 2024, 13:37:01
Yes - the use of (and ability to speak) English is great - and also humbling.  I'm now in Valka in the Latvia / Estonia border and in the cafe that's open today, the young lady speaks English.  The folks I met at the bridge between the two countries spoke it perfectly too - though to be expected as they turn out to be from Tunbridge Wells.  And the other gent I was chatting too - also at the bridge - was from Ukraine but currently living in Latvia and appreciative of the local support he and his county are getting.  We aren't far from Russia here and the Russian influence is very much around to see.  Another post to follow on that, perhaps?
80  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury on: April 07, 2024, 08:08:54
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08:10 Warminster to Swindon due 09:02

08:10 Warminster to Swindon due 09:02 will be starting late from Warminster.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
81  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Station facilities in The Baltics on: April 07, 2024, 06:22:05
Greetings this lovely Sunday morning from a station with ...
... an open staffed ticket office
... an excellent choice of coffees
... an arrivals and departures board showing everything on time
... and enough platforms to cope with all the trains that are around

For sure, I will admit that they have issues here too - like at home - with a train service that is far too thin.  So thin, in fact, that yesterday's train to the next place on my tour was fully booked and I had to wait here for a day.





82  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Breaking the £1 per mile fare barrier on: April 07, 2024, 05:18:56
Exeter Central to Exeter St Davids is £2.10 for ¾ mile. £2.80 per mile.

St James Park to Central is also £2.10 - how far is that?
83  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Short railway journeys: now disproportionately expensive? on: April 07, 2024, 04:42:01
And there's always the risk of being accosted by females of flexible morality. (Is that a plus or minus?)

Accosted you should not be ... but you bring back a conversation I had last week when I checked into a hotel with the chap behind the counter.  Vivid memory with a chat that would have been worthy of us sitting in the bar and putting the world to rights.  Quite extraordinary and one of the subjects we briefly touched on was women's safety, man's drive, and whether easier access to the services of females with flexible "morality" would reduce the level of unwanted forced attention by men on women.   We touched on war and refugees, the environment, employment rights and finding the right staff too.  Like I say, quite extraordinary.   There's the occasional spark on trips like these that will be in my memory for years - the dutch backpacker on his way to Vilnius, and the lady in the train on Friday who was so "hyper" in her own business ... and we ended up having a brief few minutes, but fascinating, conversation as we approached the intermediate stop where she got off.

So - who have YOU met for fascinating conversation in your travels?  I will split the thread if people pile in answers!
84  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Short railway journeys: now disproportionately expensive? on: April 07, 2024, 04:28:20
I find myself thinking that fares would be more equitably based on "x"p per end station and "y"p per mile - so if "x" was 80p and "y" was 50p you would have an alternative setup for the whole fare network.   And its in line with the cost of the rail industry to provide too, with customers paying for the overhead and use of two lots of facilities, plus the mileage.  I think taxis do it already.
85  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Heritage railway lines, Railtours, other rail based attractions / Re: 10 years of the Two Tunnels cycleway on: April 06, 2024, 18:53:22
A memorable experience and one I recommend to friends - and a big THANK YOU to those who worked so hard to make it happen. You know who you are.  Grin
86  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury on: April 06, 2024, 12:24:18

Please be advised the driver booked to work the following services has fallen ill this morning resulting in their cancellations:
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- 07:45 Westbury to Swindon - CANCELLED.
- 08:45 Swindon to Westbury - CANCELLED.

Personal opinion, but I sincerely hope the driver did fall ill - and was not intimidated into not booking on.

I did wonder.  Some of the long serving staff at Westbury talk of how memories have not faded (nor attitudes totally changed) between those who joined previous strikes and those who did not.
87  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury on: April 06, 2024, 07:27:36
I wonder when Melksham last had more planned departures than Swindon?

I say planned - the first of the two round trips has been cancelled. 

It may still be the case that actually happens - if this afternoon train runs.

Not really anything to celebrate for Melksham - the service today has been reduced to useless, and it's another own goal by the rail industry as a whole.  This is not the thread, though, to look at our archaic system of industrial relations.
88  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Short railway journeys: now disproportionately expensive? on: April 06, 2024, 07:16:22
The Independent has featured "10 journeys that cost more that £1 per mile" this morning ... I have hummed and haaaed and decided that's a related but separate thread - started at http://www.passenger.chat/28618

But the £2.70 Ty Glas to Birchgrove is featured:

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These are not the priciest journeys per mile in the UK (United Kingdom): most of those are for extremely short journeys that travellers would not normally make. The most expensive of all in pounds-per-mile is the link from Ty Glas in the northern suburbs of Cardiff to Birchgrove, which is less than a quarter-mile. The fare increased earlier last month to £2.70, taking the price-per-mile to £12.70.

This confirms, sadly, that I am not "normal".  But then it was a journey I walked and didn't take the train. I got off the train from Cardiff at Ty Glas, walked to Birchgrove while the train went up to Coryton and came back ...

The short journey from Hamilton Square (Birkenhead) to St James (Liverpool) does feature in the article as a short journey that people will take at over £1 per mile due to it being a long way to walk round - the Mersey is in the way!
89  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Breaking the £1 per mile fare barrier on: April 06, 2024, 07:07:05
From The Independent

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Britain’s biggest rail rip-offs: 10 journeys that cost £1 per mile or more

As passengers from Edinburgh to London are told they must pay £200 for a one-way, standard-class ticket during a rail strike, The Independent has identified other eye-wateringly expensive train fares.

Ten journeys that cost £1 per mile can now be revealed.

[snip]

£3 Liverpool James Street to Birkenhead Hamilton Square £3.60 for 1.2 miles
£2.10 Hayes & Harlington to Heathrow Central: £7.40 for 3.5 miles
£1.35 London St Pancras to Stratford International: £8.10 for 6 miles
£1.31 Stansted airport to Stansted Mountfitchet: £4.60 for 3.5 miles
£1.27 Didcot Parkway to Swindon: £30.50 for 24 miles
[etc]
All fares are standard anytime tickets, researched at National Rail. Distances calculated from RealTimeTrains data.
90  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury on: April 06, 2024, 04:04:07
Due to industrial action, the only trains scheduled to run today are:
Services at 07:45 and 16:23 from Westbury to Swindon
Services at 08:45 and 17:35 from Swindon to Westbury
All 4 trains calling intermediately at Trowbridge, Melksham and Chippenham at which they are the only passenger trains scheduled to call today.

Complete timetable for Westbury:
07:45 to Swindon (starts here)
08:10 to Salisbury (from Castle Cary)
(09:26 arrival from Swindon)
10:57 to Frome (from Salisbury)
11:43 to Southampton Central (from Frome)
16:23 to Swindon (starts here)
(18:18 arrival from Swindon)
19:58 to Yeovil Junction (from Salisbury)
23:12 to Salisbury (starts here)

Complete timetable for Swindon:
(08:28 arrival from Westbury)
08:45 to Westbury
(17:08 arrival from Westbury)
17:35 to Westbury
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