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Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: First Great Western - West Of England to Axminster
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on: November 30, 2008, 11:05:21
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Are these connections to and from West Devon and Cornwall?
Anyone to London is going to go via SWT▸ .
I suppose if you were going for several days you might go via Exeter to Bristol and the North, otherwise you'd probaly drive to Tiverton Parkway.
Freinds of ours now regularly use SWT to Clapham Junction from Axminister to visit family. They book in advance and get incredably cheap fares far less than their petrol costs and they don't have the bother of parking in Wandsworth.
Which goes to show rail travel at a sensible price is very attractive.
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Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Cotswold Line redoubling: 2008 - 2011
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on: November 30, 2008, 10:53:43
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As I said, the only broad gauge trains known to have ever ventured west of Oxford were an inspection train to Evesham in June 1853 and the epic trip to Wolverhampton and back just before Easter in April 1854.
I recall reading in a book I think called Great Western in the West Midlands that the OWW▸ got into a lot of trouble with the Board of Trade with the twin gauge. As I remember there seemed to be a single separate standard and broad gauge track at least between Worcester and Eversham. The BoT ruled that standard and broad gauge trains could not pass on these single tracks. However, when a timetable was published it seemed that trains were timed to pass each other on this section. As it was sometime after publication the BoT got to hear about it suggests there might have been broad gauge trains over part of the line to Worcester. Of course the timetable in question could have been one of the many gallent attempts by the railways to create new fiction. A tradition with timetables that still flourishes today.
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: 200 new coaches to be brought forward
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on: November 30, 2008, 10:36:09
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I now believe that it's in the public domain propperly, it appears that the fast tracked new stock is for FGW▸ , FTPE» and Northern although still not confirmed as in official announcement from DFT▸ or FG, the order will be put to competetive tender for units of a similar spec to 170's but no mention of 172's, obviously FTPE's order will be for the fourth coach for the 185's, orders are planned to be put to tender within the next three months.
Wonder what we will be posting in three months time. That's still a long time to hold ones breath!
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Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Paddingitis hits TV
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on: November 29, 2008, 15:19:46
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Drivers drive by the signals. As yet they do not drive to the schedule however this is being looked at as it can be more efficient fuel wise.
So if they get all greens then they will do Ealing Padd in 7/8 minutes and arrive early. Or they drive by schedule and potter into Padd taking 13 minutes, but save fuel. Interesting choice, I prefer 7 or 8 minutes to 13 but then I like my trains to run as fast as they can. The more I look at it the more I keep asking why? No doubt you'll get very familiar with Royal Oak tube station as you sit on line 6 outside Paddington waiting for a route in the platform whilst the xx:12 and xx:42 train leaves on line 5.
The journey is 7 minutes with clear signals - you can understand a couple of minutes extra as it's the last stop and FGW▸ wouldn't want to compromise their performance stats, but 13 minutes is stretching that a bit too far! Other services take 10-12 minutes in the new timetable which is also taking the pee a little bit.
It smacks of the service being specified with the actual pathing in and out of Paddington being considered as an afterthought.
If our insider can't come up with an explanation who can?
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Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Signalling
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on: November 29, 2008, 11:16:26
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As you say Key Token working is getting very rare on Network rail. St Bees the Cumbrian Coast was working KT in both directions in 2004. There are also several single KT sections such as Rufford to Midge Hall on the old L&Y Ormskirk Preston line.
However, in 2004 there were still 4 consecutative sections on the Ayr to Stranraer line. Three ETT and one KT.
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Journey by Journey / Chiltern Railways services / Re: Chiltern charm offensive
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on: November 29, 2008, 10:54:16
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Givern the Wolmar question, "What are TOCs▸ ?" for Chiltern is probably the least worse TOC. At least they seem to like running trains reasonably briskly, but are still pretty high up the punctuality table. They've redoubled Risborough to Anhyo and have ambitous plans to run from Oxford. They also work well with Wrexham and Shrewsbury.
As Electric train says the Tizer has quite a wide circulation in South Bucks where Beconsfield is a viable alternative to the Marlow branch, Maidenhead or Taplow. I knew someone in Bourne End who gave up on FGW▸ and drove to Beconsfield. Until they gave her a parking place in London when she drove!
I say good for them, especialy if it gets FGW to put its socks up. Wasn't competition why the railways were privatised? However, as above the real competiton comes from road.
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Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Paddingitis hits TV
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on: November 29, 2008, 10:42:32
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If the Reading bottleneck is sorted, and 1 or 2 new tracks are installed between Paddington and Reading, FGW▸ might be able to remove padding from timetables.
I still don't understand why the sudden increase. If it's agreed that 8 minutes is probably a good running time from Ealing to Padd, these trains were already booked 10 so why the increase to 13? Also why are the Greenfords allowed 13 with a stop at Acton and even weirder the other semi from Oxford is allowed 12 whist Heathrow connect is allowed 10. These inconsistent running times makes it harder for teh driver he has to remember what train he's on and how long he's got or refer to the schedule each time. To my mind it could lead to complacancy and slackness of working. "There's plenty of time." A proper railway should be run briskly. That's why we played marches at Waterloo in the morning to get people off the station. 5 minute turnrounds with same crew.
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Journey by Journey / Portsmouth to Cardiff / Re: Salisbury Station
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on: November 28, 2008, 11:42:12
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Pity it's not coupled with conductor rails at least from Basingstoke and possibly Southampton/Eastleigh. After all the SR‡ managed to get Southamton/Eastleigh to Portsmouth juiced up with very little fuss or bother.
When GMWL electrified, Salisbury to Exeter and Westbury to be 25 kv overhead. Nearly all the new third rail EMUs▸ seem to have the potential for dual voltage working so although some new stock would be needed existing stock could be used as well.
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: 200 new coaches to be brought forward
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on: November 28, 2008, 11:25:27
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Does this make sense?
Only if your interpretation is correct. It seems to me that DafT have got themselves in such a muddle over new DMUs▸ orders and cascades that they are probably as confused as we are. When the Coffee shop reports 13 four car 172s as running on FGW▸ services then I might just believe it. Until then don't hold your breath you'll only go blue.
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Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Paddingitis hits TV
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on: November 28, 2008, 11:18:33
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I have just obtained a copy of October 1974 Railway Mag with an analysts of Britian's fastest trains.
This is pre HST▸ , West Coast the wires have got to Glasgow, East Coast is Deltics and WR has just got the 50s.
As you would expect WCML▸ tops with 6 trains from Rugby to Watford at 88.8 mph. EC comes next with 81.7 1 train Stevenage York.
Then guess who comes next!
Midland Main Line 1 train St. Pancras Wellingborough. at 74.4 mph
Fourth place is also a surprise.
LSWR▸ mainline 13 trains Basinstoke Woking 72.3 mph.
So good old WR is last.
1 train 71.3 from Padd to Exeter.
However of relevance to this post is the GE line with the wires to Clacton. Fastest 1 Train Witham Colchester 13.1 miles 68.3
But 6 trains over 6.2 miles from Hatfield Peverel - Chemsford in 5 mins 30 secs at 67.6.
Of course these runs were with the magnificent Clacton Electrics (309). Fantastic ride even at 90. Now I know what the techies are going to say. That they guzzled juice and were incredibly heavy due to being fitted with Commonwealth bogies but they still superb sets..
Wonder if a Heathrow connect could do Ealing - Padd at a similar average? Would have to be just few seconds over 5 minutes, Probably not due to the shorter distance but I would have thought 60 was possible in 5mins 42 secs.
Puts 13 minutes into perspective.
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All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: Hello from an oily FGW passenger
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on: November 27, 2008, 22:54:10
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I left the oil business in 1982 (after a pump motor caught fire, something never before known) and worked for the water board, but always prefered the smell of brown oil to the smell of the "brown stuff" that the water treatment works dealt with.
However I came back to the Refinery in 1991 as the Powers that be realised that the So called "savings" had cost them a fortune and maintenace was back in house.
Also welcome. Your quote seems to have a familar ring to it in relation to the rail industry.
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
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on: November 27, 2008, 14:29:42
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Interesting! December Modern Railways has a piece which says that in fact Chiltern Rail will help EWR by doing the Oxford Bicester bit, the chord at Bicester and build Water Eaton Parkway station.
Chiltern will then run 2 tph to Marylebone and EWR will be able to run 2 tph to Milton Keynes and/or Bedford plus Aylesbury Milton Keynes.
Now if we could only get Bourne End - High Wycombe, Bucks could end up with a superb rail network serving all the principle towns.
Unfortunately the Maidenhead Advertiser has a report on a planning enquiry into a scheme to build on the track bed at Wooburn. If it were to be approved it would kill any reopening.
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Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Paddingitis hits TV
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on: November 27, 2008, 14:12:27
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Just got a copy of Timtable D TV local.
Paddingitis has struck our Taplow service:
Current offpeak 07 Taplow arrive 43 Padd With 10 minutes allowed from Ealing 37 13
New Offpeak 06 Taplow arrive 46 Padd with 13! minutes from Ealing 36 16
Now the train I used to go to work on the 07:23 ex Taplow for years was allowed 7 minute from Ealing. A bit tight but a good driver could do it. We used to take Up Relief to Line 4 at Ladbroke Grove at 70 with the Greenford coming Down 3 to Down Relief quite interesting having the other train rush by at speed on the next track.
Now Ealing is 5.7 miles (5m 56ch in Coooke) from Padd so 7 minutes equals 48.8 mph av whilst 13 minutes equals 26 mph. With 13 minutes I reckon the driver could stop for a cup of tea at Acton.
Maybe I'll set up a tea stall on the platform.
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