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1  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: Plymouth Station - refurbishment, improvements, timetable changes, events and incidents (merged on: September 19, 2018, 16:03:17
Must of misread this article.
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/business/demolition-begin-100m-railway-station-1969115
2  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: Plymouth Station - refurbishment, improvements, timetable changes, events and incidents (merged on: September 17, 2018, 15:02:01
Only £5 million of that £26 million actaully comes from PCC (Police and Crime Commissioner) itself, the rest of that package comes from various other sources. As for the car park itself, well in order to create a station gateway fit for the 21st century and create a direct pedestrian access to the city centre the existing car park has to be demolished and rebuilt elsewhere.
Currently Plymouths semi derelict station is an embarrassment for a city of Plymouth's size and aspersions so the sooner this happens the better for all concerned.
3  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: Class 802s on: August 25, 2018, 16:07:20
802003 and 802005 operated the 12.03 Paddington to Penzance today. (Saturday)
4  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: Class 802s on: August 24, 2018, 15:09:37
05.53 Plymouth/Paddington today (Friday) has once again departed Plymouth 45 minutes late arriving Paddington 70 minutes late to conclude what has been a totally disastrous first week of IETs (Intercity Express Train) on this service.
5  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: Class 802s on: August 23, 2018, 14:11:27
05.53 Plymouth/Paddington IET (Intercity Express Train) cancelled this morning!
6  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: August 21, 2018, 12:30:48
Alsob the 07.30 Paddington/Penzance which was an IET (Intercity Express Train) yesterday was a HST (High Speed Train) today.
7  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Chris Grayling says no GWR franchise split in the far South West on: July 25, 2018, 07:21:23
According to my local BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) South West "Spotlight" news programme (24th July) the government has abandoned any idea of splitting the GWR (Great Western Railway) franchise in the far south west. It also said that that there would be no cuts now to Cross Country services in the SW where services to Torbay were under threat.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bbxnvn/spotlight-late-news-24072018
8  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / 2+3 HST at Plymouth station. on: July 03, 2018, 08:22:22
The 17.55 Plymouth to Penzance service was operated yesterday (Monday 2rd) by short formed 2+3 HST (High Speed Train) set using standard "slam door" Mk 3 coaches.
Presumably the regular modified 2+4 set was unavailable.
9  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: Night Riviera double headed, 22nd June 2018 on: June 25, 2018, 11:07:15
Cost is a factor too, as much as I'm reluctant to say, "Ooo's gunna pay for it?" the Night Riviera is, I believe, already subsidised. That is one reason why it has survived.

If Plymouth business leaders and their Chamber of Commerce feel the city is losing out because of poor rail service provision then they can use their clout to lobby for changes to the Night Riviera.

Hence my earlier mention of Tudor Evans  (Leader of Plymouth City Council but more given to vanity projects than anything practical)

Greater use of a more customer oriented service in tune with the needs of the area would, of course, increase revenue, offsetting costs........in the meantime however, people will either drive and/or take their business elsewhere. If you want investment, you need to make it as easy and attractive as possible to do Business.

If the railways don't see themselves playing a part in this or even see the need to try, then they, and their advocates, shouldn't complain when roads are built instead of rails.
Speaking as a Plymothian, Plymouth city centre has indeed seen better days. Ongoing defence cuts since the end of the cold war have impacted particularly badly on Plymouths once buoyant economy   https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/devonport-been-robbed-pay-portsmouth-1708202 with Devonport Dockyard now a mere shadow of its former self. The city has also lost many large manufacturing companies in last few decades but surprisingly still retains the largest manufacturing cluster in Southern England providing about 13k jobs. The city's University has to some extent helped to alleviate the economic void created in the city centre but the retail tsunami now sweeping the country is having a particularly devastating impact on Plymouth once the prime regional retail centre despite the economic boost provided by the nearby University of Plymouths 19k students. Bare in mind that at the time of the 1982 Falklands war Plymouth had four flights a day to London Heathrow! However the closure of the city's airport and the loss of air links to London City/Gatwick airports in 2011 has left a void which the railways west of Exeter simply cant fill (poor infrastructure hence poor rail journey times), while the much smaller Exeter, 45 road and 52 rail miles closer to everywhere of economic importance has been consistently fairing much better with its successful airport, fast rail and motorway links. For political reasons the government now seems far more concerned about Cornwall's economic needs than Plymouths https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/heathrows-third-runway-game-changer-1708636  and the city now finds itself essentially the forgotten transport "piggy in middle" in the Devon and Cornwall's transport strategy (if there is one). No amount of money spent on resilience at Cowley Bridge or Dawlish/Teignmouth or elsewhere is going to change that fundamental problem either. The sleeper solution is "old hat" now in the 21st century for a city that is just 225 rail miles from London, not in the Scottish highlands. Not surprisingly then the wider business worlds perception and attitude to Plymouth is that it is much further away from London than it actually is and lets be honest not even the new Hitachi class 802 bi-mode trains are going to change that perception are they!
10  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: Attempted Signalling Cable Theft at Keyham closes railway west of Plymouth on: June 06, 2018, 15:56:47
British Transport Police give update following train chaos in and out of Cornwall.
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/british-transport-police-new-train-1646064
Quote, “ However, a spokesperson for BTP (British Transport Police) has now told Cornwall Live that the incident "wasn't due to any criminal activity, as far as we're concerned".
When asked if the fault had been caused by accidental damage, the BTP spokesperson replied: "that's not for us to comment on".
Hmmm
11  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: Plymouth Station - refurbishment, improvements, timetable changes, events and incidents (merged topic) on: May 17, 2018, 14:56:14
Plymouth's Railway Station and the £100 million pound question.
Government ministers want foreign investors to pay for the scheme, which includes a hotel and car park.
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/business/plymouths-railway-station-100-million-1575840
12  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: 50 years since Okehampton to Bere Alston closure on: May 02, 2018, 11:13:10
There is an old saying "there's not so blind as those who do not want to see". And not that is certainly true of far too many now in the rail industry and government!
13  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: 50 years since Okehampton to Bere Alston closure on: May 02, 2018, 09:06:01
Unfortunately John Majors disastrous rail privatisation hasn't done the us any favours.
Network Rail or the engineering companies cost so much. Network Rail quotes for schemes are sometimes a factor of ten more than might be expected and even the most minor routine job seems to be far higher than comparable work in other industries.


Er..............isn't Network Rail publicly owned?  Huh


I would remind you that the fully privatised Railtrack went bust very shortly after the rail privatisation. As a result the taxpayer (Network Rail) had no choice but to take on all of Railtracks huge debt baggage and commitments. Worse still, instead of learning from their mistake by taking track maintenance back "in house" as elsewhere in the world where economies of scale meant costs were much lower under BR (British Rail(ways)), the dogmatic conservative government simply has simply repeated Railtracks mistakes with its use of "rip off" contractors and sub contractors, Ie the massively over cost West Coast main line upgrade and the current GWR (Great Western Railway) main line electrification fiasco, both £ billions of taxpayers money over cost to the detriment of the wider railway including of course the now long in tooth proposed Tavistock reopening. Incidentally Network Rail was only reclassified as a public sector body from 1 September 2014 meaning  its huge public sector debt was up to then not counted as public spending which of course it is, effectively a government accountancy scam. This has of course increased public scrutiny on this failed rail privatisation generally as money gets ever tighter.
14  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: 50 years since Okehampton to Bere Alston closure on: May 01, 2018, 17:06:55
Unfortunately John Majors disastrous rail privatisation hasn't done the us any favours.
Network Rail or the engineering companies cost so much. Network Rail quotes for schemes are sometimes a factor of ten more than might be expected and even the most minor routine job seems to be far higher than comparable work in other industries.
The Public Accounts Committee have recently attacked the Government’s "completely inadequate" management of two major rail franchises as exposing a “broken model" with “serious and deep-rooted problems”
While First Group (GWR (Great Western Railway)) are in deep financial do do, as the following link shows.
http://www.passengertransport.co.uk/2018/04/firstgroup-break-up-likely-after-apollo-bid/
It no wonder that this project has ground to a halt on cost grounds.


15  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: 50 years since Okehampton to Bere Alston closure on: April 29, 2018, 14:53:17
I liked the post by Grahame, not because I liked the closure of the line.  It's been nearly 10 years now since the proposal to reinstate the Bere Alston to Tavistock section, and it seems to have gone extremely quite again on that front.
The big problem is that costs have risen from the original estimate of £30 million to some  £60 million. According to 'Rail' magazine several months back completion of the project to reinstate the line from Here Alston  to Tavistock has now been pushed well back into the 2020s.
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