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6076  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Reading Station improvements on: October 13, 2014, 00:22:35
Sorry the posts around then refer to three diagrams only two of which are the same.  Is the layout after January going to be the temporary one in the 2008 Stage 6 and Phase 70 drawing or the final Phase 76?
None of the above. The discussion then was about the new phasing, which is not as shown on any of the plans done beforehand. It's roughly as phase 76 between P8/9 and the viaduct, but otherwise as phase 70. Probably.

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6077  Journey by Journey / South Western services / Re: South Hampshire Rail Users (SHRUG) on: October 11, 2014, 15:23:01
The SHRUG website has now reappeared after an unexplained absence for several days.  The new 'Hogrider' is available for view.

No apology that the website was AXED for several days, though it does mention a DUFF Internet Service Provider, and the fact the newsletter is SHORT FORMED only including data up to 25th September.  Perhaps the server was SEVERELY OVERCROWDED?   Wink
6078  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: October 10, 2014, 15:44:02
There must be an average of 300 or so track workers of various disciplines on average between Reading and London at the moment whilst all the various upgrades are going on.  That's a lot of worn out horns!
6079  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: An interesting way to delay a train... on: October 10, 2014, 15:37:47
Shuts and locks them electrically, but not physically, they will stay shut until such time as the doors are released again from an active cab.
6080  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: October 09, 2014, 12:57:15
The whole thing reeks of carelessness, shoddiness and incompetence.........there can be no other explanation for one of the busiest rail thoroughfares in Europe being brought to a grinding halt for the second time in 4 days..............the noise you can hear is not trains moving to and fro, it's Brunel spinning in his grave.

FGW (First Great Western) should grow a pair and insist that all digging/piling work should cease until they are satisifed that those undertaking it are competent enough to undertake this work without this happening.

I note the message on the FGW website is  "There is currently no estimate for a normal train service to resume"..........how apt!

Refreshing to see that you can actually post a message which doesn't accuse those of us on here that try and explain why things may be happening in more detail as 'Railway enthusiast fundamentalists' or some similarly stupid label.  I dread to think what it was before you modified it. 

Speaking personally, I am pretty passionate about the railways and hate it when passengers have their journey disrupted.  Part of my reason for being on here is to try and explain why things have gone wrong to those that might not have the technical knowledge or ability to find out.  I don't have to do it and I sure as hell don't get paid for doing it.  It also gives me a platform to anonymously criticise (and indeed praise) the railway industry when I deem it suitable.  Many staff feel the same way I do and your constant sniping at us really makes me wonder why I bother.  Sure, there are some bad members of staff out there and things don't always go to plan, but I'm sure the same applies in whatever industry you are involved in but perhaps not under quite the glare of public scrutiny.

I strongly suspect that today will be discussed at a very senior level within Network Rail (doubtless with input from FGW) and it might indeed be sensible to stop the work whilst a review in undertaken.  It's interesting that it's (presumably) the Crossrail electrification team that have once again caused this disruption rather than the GWML (Great Western Main Line) electrification team who have been doing similar piling work for over a year with very few problems.
6081  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: October 09, 2014, 11:28:32
Reliability certainly seems to be getting worse, and subjectively seems to be much worse than back in the "good old days"
Breakdowns certainly occurred back in the old days, but I don't recall major failures resulting in DOZENS of cancellations, occurring on a near weekly basis.

Quite agree that it's been another very disappointing week, but there was never the sheer amount of infrastructure work going on, or anywhere near the number of trains/passengers, in these alleged 'good old days'.  The amount of work going on is phenomenal - Reading, electrification, resignalling, Crossrail and so on with hundreds of staff on the trackside both day and night.
6082  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Rail passenger landed with huge ^1,048 bill after getting on the wrong train on: October 08, 2014, 13:37:58
Which works out at an excess of under ^27 per person.  Doesn't sound so huge when you describe it like that though. 
6083  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Person hit by a train at Hayes - 7th October 2014 on: October 08, 2014, 11:34:53
The use of language can be very much open to interpretation.  I remember back in the Thames Trains days being told that we should avoid using the word 'Terminates' and instead use the phrase 'Final stop' because it risked upsetting those who had suffered from problems during a pregnancy.
6084  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Reading Station improvements on: October 08, 2014, 11:29:07
And I noted today while passing that the 3 signals (mains and festival) on the gantry are all mounted facing the country end - controlling access to Reading station. Suggesting, at least the down main is going to be bi- directional.

Yes, presumably bi-directional from the crossover that it supposed to be on the viaduct itself.
6085  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: A very traditions "where is this?" on: October 07, 2014, 19:43:54
Yeovil Pen Mill is number 5 I think.
6086  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Great Western Franchise Extension on: October 07, 2014, 14:19:37
With First group continuing to run the services, they wont be able to blame anyone else for the interior of the new trains.

Apart from the DfT.   Wink
6087  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: October 07, 2014, 14:18:30
There was (widely predicted) severe weather in Cornwall earlier in the day yesterday causing flooding and structural damage and which also affected the railways notwithstanding the signal failures - the local media were advising people not to attempt to travel by rail towards London due to the weather AND the signalling problems in Slough.......I wouldn't have thought a crystal ball would have been necessary to at least manage the risk? (Unless of course that's the method FGW (First Great Western) employ these days?)

Under these circumstances do you really think it was a good call to rely on a train to get the single most important person involved to the place he needed to be to move the last service of the day, risking delay and inconveniencing hundreds of customers?

Firstly, 'hundreds of customers' on the night sleeper after Exeter?  A couple of dozen more like.  Secondly, the train was only delayed at Exeter by 19 minutes, and was back on time by departure from Plymouth, so only the handful travelling to Newton Abbot/Plymouth would have suffered minor inconvenience.  Thirdly, the driver for the train may well have been utilised to work another train down towards Plymouth due to the disruption -  looking at the diagram that it books on at 23:25 and does one shunt before 'working as required' until departing with the sleeper at 04:11.  He/she would therefore have been a prime candidate to be used to work another train in the meantime, perhaps to Plymouth, so a taxi may not have been viable or necessary.   Roll Eyes
 
6088  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: October 06, 2014, 22:23:40
If I didn't leave within walking distance of THA I might go into London that way more often :-)

To be fair, the routes into Waterloo has just as many days when the service is a disaster!
6089  Journey by Journey / London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury / Re: Appleford station - timetable changes, signalling problems (merged topics) on: October 06, 2014, 22:21:59
Depends what's in the PSR (Permanent Speed Restriction). They can't just remive anything on that...

Realtime trains has no services listed at Appleford for the first couple of Sundays after the timetable change.  Buses would show on there as long as they've been entered into the Integrated Train Planning System.  Also, no journey is found on the NRE(resolve) website.  I think the further erosion of Appleford's service is continuing with the next timetable change.
6090  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: October 06, 2014, 14:33:04
Notwithstanding the fact there was major disruption still, I did feel that the revised service plan held up reasonably well given the circumstances - there seemed more staff on the ground at the locations I witnessed, and the usual complete meltdown didn't seem quite as catastrophic.  For example, the Oxford<>Reading stopping services pretty much ran as normal, whereas often there's a mad scramble for drivers and sets meaning loads of last second cancellations.  Perhaps some lessons have been learned?  Perhaps forum members who were directly affected can give a summary of how their journey was affected today and how they thought it compared with previous major signalling outages as I may just have been 'lucky' in what I witnessed?
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