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All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Intercity Express Programme (IEP) - ongoing discussion
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on: September 05, 2012, 14:28:25
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Speaking of platform lengths has it been determined if 2 x 5 car IEP▸ (260 metres) will fit into the platforms at Paddington yet, bearing in mind a 2+8 HST▸ is only 218 metres long and a 2+9 is only 231 metres long....
They definitely won't fit in some of the platforms without modifications, though I think they'll be little or no modifications required for platforms 1, 2 and 3. Other platforms are currently less than 260m in length, the 'main line' ones ranging from 237m to 253m according to the Sectional Appendix. Shrinking the concourse won't be easy or popular and there's not much room to play with at the far end, so the solution will be interesting!
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Journey by Journey / Thames Valley Branches / Re: Thames Valley branches post Crossrail and electrification
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on: September 04, 2012, 22:19:03
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There appears no way that the down platform at Bourne End can be lengthened in either direction.
I think it was 'Electric Train' that suggested in another thread that if the stop blocks were moved at Bourne End to a position level with those on the other platform (i.e. flush to the platform end), along with a reposition of the point indicator signal, then there would just be room for a 3-car 20 metre long EMU▸ , which, together with a short extension of the platform at Marlow, would mean that could operate the service through from Maidenhead to Marlow. This picture demonstrates the Bourne End situation perfectly: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/48405051?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.comI'm currently working on a 'mega-post' trying to sum up all the issues that will arise with the LTV▸ services by the end of the decade (and my guesses as to the best/likely solutions), as by then Crossrail, and electrification will impact on virtually all the routes.
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: FGW to "refresh" First Class
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on: September 03, 2012, 15:54:40
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I know its been discussed before but I'm all for turning First Class to the front at Paddington. On the occasions this has happended to me its been a delight (and I don't mind the stroll down the Platform, indeed now the Hot and Cold is the best way to exit east it would be great, oh and I'd be the first off the platform and out of the car park at my home station as well ). I would prefer First at the country end, but it would seem that I am in a minority regarding this. Many first class ticket holders feel strongly about the extra walking involved at Paddington, but ignore the shorter walk that would result at other stations. Reverse all HST▸ sets to have 1st Class at the country end out of PAD» / RDG‡. Problem solved. A survey has been conducted (though I don't know how extensive), and the majority of the public voted to keep First Class at the London end. Though there will be a review early next year.
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Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Class 180s return to the Cotswolds
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on: September 03, 2012, 12:35:02
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Would this require knocking down the Youth Hostel next to Botley Rd bridge? Why was that ever given permission... (shakes head in despair at short term planning decisions).
I think you could just about squeeze it in without demolishing the Youth Hostel, though it would be tight and some of the Youth Hostel's garden would need to be used. The existing BTP▸ office, staff offices and Panel Box Building and would be affected, and to squeeze Roger Dudman way alongside and give room for a 10-car IEP▸ length platform would also be quite an ask. Removing the down through line and shifting that platform closer to the current platform 1 would make it easier, but then you don't gain the same capacity improvements - especially given the growing importance of the future 'Electric Spine' for freight. The above would help a lot, but really the station needs flattening, with a new one with 4 through platforms plus various bays for other stuff.
Yes, it probably does, but I can't see room for 4 though platforms plus various bays within the current configuration without removing both through roads (massive loss in capacity for freight), massive disruption to passengers whilst it is built, or NR» and the Council having the balls (and money) to move the whole station to a site either north or south of the current location. That has been talked about for years, but never moved off of the drawing board. As a long term decision it probably is the best option though - but the most expensive! Challenging and tough decisions will need to be made!
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Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Class 180s return to the Cotswolds
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on: August 31, 2012, 15:12:51
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But what about the HST▸ terminating at Oxford at 1724, this has to be out of the platform by 1730 for the 1732 stopping service, if it is a couple of minutes late (normal) that only leaves 4min to empty the train, check all carriages and lock the doors, then wait for the signal to clear. This process normally takes 6-8 and last night took 10min which will automatically delay subsequent services even when they are waiting outside the station on time.
Indeed, it's very tight. I have seen the 17:32 depart on time, but it's rare normally leaving 1-5 minutes late. Little can be done until rebuilding work at Oxford will hopefully lead to an extra through platform. Even the proposed south facing bay platform might help in these circumstances, as the 17:24 terminator could in theory arrive there and wait it's next working at 18:01 to Paddington - though it would involve a bit of a trek for connecting passengers. With the Oxford line improvement programme getting the go-ahead for between 2014-19 hopefully the situation will be vastly improved in a few years. A sensible layout (in my opinion) would be to have the current Platform 1 stay as it is, Platform 2 to have bi-di signalling installed, Platform 3 to remain as it is. Then two new north facing bay platforms for the Evergreen 3 and possibly some of the East-West Rail services. A new south facing bay platform, and finally a new bi-di platform behind the current platform 2, using space vacated by the panel box in 2015 (with other station buildings partially demolished). It would look something like this:
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Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Class 180s return to the Cotswolds
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on: August 30, 2012, 16:40:15
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Some conductors will collect the litter whilst others just ignore it. Do they just go back to their cab for a snooze?
As you say it will depend on the individual. I don't think that Reading based crew are obliged to do any litter picking as part of their contract (not sure about the Worcester ones) but some consider themselves above that kind of thing 'That's what cleaners are employed to do' and some are just lazy. Others do a great job.
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