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3271  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Could you give up flying? Meet the no-plane pioneers on: May 23, 2019, 17:20:16

My last flight was nearly 20 years ago. I do not intend to fly again.


………..did the new planes not have a satisfactory buffet?  Wink
3272  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: British Steel Compulsory Liquidation - 22 May 2019 on: May 22, 2019, 18:50:12
Bit of duplication there Grahame.  That was in my original post.

 ... duplication reduction tomorrow!


Is that a surgical procedure? If so hope all goes well!  Smiley
3273  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: GWR bans surfboards from IET services on: May 22, 2019, 18:29:37
Surely it would be possible during Boardmasters to have say 2 or 3 trains a day to/from Paddington where a limited number of surfboards are carried (reservation only basis) in preference to bikes? Or even run a relief service? It's only one weekend a year for goodness sake, surely there's room for even GWR (Great Western Railway) to use a bit of intelligence & compromise?
I would like to think GWR already have a plan for when Boardmasters take place bearing in mind they do run extra services for the event. We shall see.

Apparently details are to be released shortly - I think in previous years a morning service from Paddington which normally terminates at Plymouth is extended to Newquay?
3274  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Could you give up flying? Meet the no-plane pioneers on: May 22, 2019, 18:06:36
I bet Emma Thompson reads the Gruniad.................... Grin Grin

No - she's too busy planting trees  Roll Eyes
3275  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: RMT Calls For Entire Bus Network To Be Taken Into Public Ownership on: May 22, 2019, 12:18:04
RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) demanding things should be nationalised?

Good God. I think I'm going into shock and hallucinating......I'm seeing a bear heading for the woods with a toilet roll.....

 Grin  Grin

Yes, it aint exactly a surprise. I was more thinking it might make for a good debate, particularly as the opposition and potential government-in-waiting have renationalising the rail network as a key policy.

.......is that before or after they've renationalised all the Utilities? They're going to be busy aren't they? Still, I'm sure it's all fully costed & budgeted for..........blimey a flying pig just joined the bear! 😂

Does that mean you'll be "doing a Phil Collins" if they get in then, TG?  Grin

Or do you think the current lot might hang on against all odds...

I've not seen a sidestep like that since I hung up my rugby boots......are you in the Shadow Cabinet?
3276  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: RMT Calls For Entire Bus Network To Be Taken Into Public Ownership on: May 22, 2019, 11:21:14
RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) demanding things should be nationalised?

Good God. I think I'm going into shock and hallucinating......I'm seeing a bear heading for the woods with a toilet roll.....

 Grin  Grin

Yes, it aint exactly a surprise. I was more thinking it might make for a good debate, particularly as the opposition and potential government-in-waiting have renationalising the rail network as a key policy.

.......is that before or after they've renationalised all the Utilities? They're going to be busy aren't they? Still, I'm sure it's all fully costed & budgeted for..........blimey a flying pig just joined the bear! 😂
3277  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: RMT Calls For Entire Bus Network To Be Taken Into Public Ownership on: May 22, 2019, 10:53:44
RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) demanding things should be nationalised?

Good God. I think I'm going into shock and hallucinating......I'm seeing a bear heading for the woods with a toilet roll.....
3278  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: GWR bans surfboards from IET services on: May 21, 2019, 18:25:49
Surely it would be possible during Boardmasters to have say 2 or 3 trains a day to/from Paddington where a limited number of surfboards are carried (reservation only basis) in preference to bikes? Or even run a relief service? It's only one weekend a year for goodness sake, surely there's room for even GWR (Great Western Railway) to use a bit of intelligence & compromise?
3279  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / The Genius that is GWR on: May 20, 2019, 17:10:33
1658 Paddington to Reading stopper runs fast to Slough, missing out Ealing Broadway etc, despite knowing that the 1712 stopping service is shortformed with only 3 coaches........superb.
3280  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion on: May 18, 2019, 18:07:05
I did and they didn't.

Now at Paddington having my pint in the Mad Bishop and Bear
Would I be correct in forecasting that the next "Where was Finn?" question will be at Paddington, please!  Grin Grin

…...outside Burger King!  Smiley
3281  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion on: May 18, 2019, 16:30:22


I still preferred a Pullman though.


I'd never have guessed that, not sure you've ever mentioned it before!  Wink
3282  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion on: May 18, 2019, 09:45:11
Sorry, I'm with broadgage on this one.
Having travelled up to London from Penzance on an HST (High Speed Train) with an open buffet, the relief to walk up to it, order food and drink, then a walk back was good.
We returned on an IET (Intercity Express Train) with no trolley sighting until it appeared at Redruth.
Although we purchased some food and a drink at Paddington (having seen it was an IET), we were parched by Exeter, and gagging beyond Plymouth.
As the train was overfull there were many grumbles I heard in the carriage we were in about no food or drink being available.
To be fair to the customer host(s) they made several announcements on departure from Paddington to say they wouldn't be able to move through the train. 
That said, there was only one announcement between Reading and Exeter, and none after Exeter.

I guess from TG comment that makes it 2 votes for a buffet and 98 against a buffet!  Grin Grin

Entirely fair comments GBM.

My "long distance" travel by train tends to be Paddington (or occasionally Reading) - Plymouth......given the variety of food and drink available to take away at/nearby either of those stations, far superior in quality and far better VFM than that available on a train, I simply make sure that I stock up before departure - always carry a bottle of water anyway to guard against being "parched" - looking around the train it's clear that many do the same.

I do get that those travelling from somewhere like St Erth to London aren't as fortunate in that respect.

On my last High Speed Trains (HST) trip the buffet was open but doing very little business with a very limited range and it could only take cash because "our card machine isn't working" - sort of sums it up.

If there was sufficient demand for a buffet and they were profitable, they would have kept them. Travelling Chef failed because ultimately it was producing mediocre food that few people wanted at a high price.

The Pullman will probably survive on its novelty factor (and because it's subsidised by Broadgage!)  Cheesy

Edit: VickiS - Clarifying Acronym
3283  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion on: May 17, 2019, 22:42:38
The improved trolleys that were promised have been quietly forgotten, indeed GWR (Great Western Railway) are struggling to provide even the very basic trolley service. Provision seems to have worsened as more services have been downgraded.
Supporters of the IETs (Intercity Express Train) have suggested that perhaps the new and improved trolleys would be introduced once enough of the new trains were in use to justify this. Well virtually all services are now downgraded to DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) and no new trolleys have been sighted.

The promised hot food offering in cattle class appears to have sunk without trace. IET advocates again suggested that the hot food might start once enough DMUs were in use.

The Pullman service continues but is IME (in my experience) struggling within the confines of a 5 car DMU. I forecast that Pullman provision would be problematic in a 5 car unit. Optimists presumed that 9 car DMUs would be used for Pullman services. Now confirmed as 5 car for former inter-city services to Plymouth and Penzance.

This is known as progress.



It's more commonly known as supply reflecting demand.

No-one doubts your devotion to (some might say obsession with) on train catering Broadgage (how could we? 😉) but you're very much in the minority.

There are now a wide choice of far superior and more reasonably priced offerings available elsewhere and people have voted with their feet.

The vast majority of people really aren't that bothered.

3284  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The West - but NOT trains in the West / Re: What will you be doing on Saturday 18th May 2019 on: May 17, 2019, 10:15:18
Watching the mighty Exeter Chiefs v Northampton!
3285  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: GWR May 2019 Timetable on: May 16, 2019, 17:52:15
"And no buffet car/restaurant west of Plymouth"

We now have no buffet car on any part of any service, how is that for progress ?
The Pullman restaurant is excellent, but is available on fewer services than in the past and not west of Plymouth. So no improvement there.

Broadgage, I knew you would bite (pun intended).

…..but if he wants to bite, he will have to do so before leaving Plymouth!  Wink
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