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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
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on: May 16, 2019, 16:04:57
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Aside from the fact that this application suggests things are still moving in the right direction with regard to the Bristol East Jct improvement, one drawing - the proposed Layout Plan (W1103F-BDG-DRG-ECV-000010, PROPOSED LAYOUT PLAN) gives a tantalising view of the new track layout: I'm no expert on these things but I can count, and there are definitely 7 tracks crossing Gas Lane Bridge instead of 6. Others may be able to glean more from staring at the S&C▸ layout...
And there is this in the covering letter - apparently put there specifically so we can read too much into it: Over the next few years, Bristol Council expects that this area will be developed further with additional housing and facilities for Bristol University. Network rail shall be increasing passenger capacity and retail within the station itself and implement an electrification programme and Bristol East Junction (BEJ) track renewal and improvements to the existing junction layout east of Bristol Temple Meads to meet current and future forecasted demand. This will result in additional physical infrastructure within the railway boundary.
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Journey by Journey / Thames Valley Branches / Re: Reading Green Park
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on: May 15, 2019, 10:40:27
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Quite! There are a fair few people who are under the impression that crossrail is a brand new fast line to london fully underground all the way into the Thames Valley. Many estate agents appear to be selling it as such, and as a result housing prices reflect this.
Berkeley and their copywriting weasels have taken care to not say that - not quite: A vibrant new destination for Reading Uber-stylish waterfront apartments Concierge, co-working studio, residents' gym and cinema room Extensive landscaped gardens and parkland New train station to Reading and Crossrail in 6 minutes Reading to London Paddington in 26 minutes I find their weasels' prose rather funny - I mean, what style to you associate with Uber? Would you like to live in (rather than just near) a "vibrant destination"? Some of the internal descriptions are even better ... I guess it is just possible I'm not in their target demographic.
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Journey by Journey / Thames Valley Branches / Re: Reading Green Park
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on: May 14, 2019, 18:34:16
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That's a good question, as the road in Green Park and the lane over the railway remain isolated from each other to prevent through traffic. It would make sense to have some access to at least drop people off on that side. There is the possibility that parking could occur on Kirton's Farm Road i guess.
The only access will be via the interchange, and there will be no direct access to the Up platform apart from over the footbridge - not even for properly authorised newts. I presume the present works access in from Kirtons Farm Road will be reopened as part of Cycle Route 23 (currently diverted down Longwater Road), for pedestrians and bikes but not cars.
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All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Electric ferries
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on: May 14, 2019, 12:04:54
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Here's something that explains how the magic is done - from electrive.com: The Swedish HH Ferries Group has launched two fully electric ferries named Aurora and Tycho Brahe on the stretch between Helsingborg (Sweden) and Heldingör (Denmark). Furthermore, they renamed themselves ForSea Ferries.
The ocean straight between Helsingborg and Helsingör can be crossed in about 20 minutes with the ferries. The route is run every fifteen minutes, 24 hours a day. At each of the docks on either side of the Öresund a fully automated robot arm helps charge the ferries during loading and unloading times; a process that is supposed to take between five and nine minutes.
On board of each of the electric ferries are a total of 640 batteries, weighing about 90 kg each. They are placed in four containers between the smoke stacks on the upper decks, and yield a total capacity of 4,160 kWh, which adds a considerable 280 tonnes the ship’s weight. Each crossing takes about 1,175 kWh, according to the operators, which means that there is a comfortable buffer between battery capacity and energy requirements. As the ferries will also keep the “old” diesel engines on board, the ships would be able to switch to combustion or hybrid propulsion in an emergency. The batteries can also be charged from the on-board diesel motors.
The budget for the project has cost HH Ferries, or ForSea, as they are now named, a total of 300 million Swedish crowns, or about 29 million euros. The EU» contributed about 11.5 million euros for the project. According to the operators, the new ferries will allow them to cut emissions down by about 65%. This will help Sweden’s long term goal of becoming climate neutral by 2045, meaning they plan to be mathematically emissions-free. So this may - perhaps - be the near future of 4 km crossings, but longer may take a bit longer.
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Journey by Journey / Thames Valley Branches / Re: Reading Green Park
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on: May 14, 2019, 09:37:08
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Thanks for the information, bradbrka - and welcome to the forum as contributor. Sounds like good news; I would expect that the access road is needed first for site access, with platforms coming later. It certainly worked like that for platform extensions that have happened within my observation in the last couple of years such as Melksham and Freshford.
There are two things that might be called an "access road". The road layout for the interchange, to the east of the railway, is the one thing that could start right after the planners' "bang". It's an extension of the housing site, and parts of it have been used as construction compound and parking. The other is the "haul road" in from the west (Cottage Lane). That has to be built before anything much else on the Up side stationwise. There are also a few underground preliminaries that may not show a lot - slightly shifting a 33kV cable to the east of the line and an S&T▸ route to the west. The big overhead cables (132kV) are staying, as are the buried 33kV ones and watercourses just outside the northern end of the station site - they are the reason it was extended to the south and so invaded Wokingham. edit: recount volts
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Journey by Journey / North Downs Line / Re: North Camp - Ash Vale interchange
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on: May 13, 2019, 19:26:53
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Thanks FenMan - that's rather what I expected. But for BAW-BSK▸ the Routeing Guide doesn't come into it, as there are two fares for Via Reading and Via Farnborough North. From further up or down the line the fare difference disappears and it becomes an Any Permitted (I think either via Reading or via Woking), and walking is an optional alternative.
What triggered my puzzlement about this was wanting to go from Wokingham to Brookwood. That's short but topologically challenged - a bit like trying to cross a complicated road junction on foot, and seeing the other side but being unable to see any route there. The only journeys I was offered by the NR» OJP▸ involved walking, unless I looked early or late in the day. So, if someone was not inclined to walk (not unlikely if you are visiting a cemetery!), what are the permitted alternatives? The routeing guide is not a sensible answer to the question, but does as a formality tell you.
The NRG gives: via Ascot and Ash Vale (including doubling back at Woking*), via Virginia Water and Weybridge, and via Reading and Baskingstoke(!). The OJP too gives via Ascot and via Virginia Water at odd times, but also via Guildford and Woking which costs extra - apart from that it's all walkies. I didn't see via Basingstoke offered, except overnight and followed by an error message, but when forced to it's quite happy with it (at the same £12.20/£12.10 day return fare, but more if doubling back at Woking).
So to my mind there is still an academic question as to where in the Routeing Guide it says you can break your journey on one line and join it on another - or come to that what are we meant to do with an "Interchange" (one of those orange blobs on the maps).
*I think this is a pointless relic of a time when some trains stopped at Ash Vale but not Brookwood.
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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: East Midlands, South Eastern & West Coast Franchise Updates April 2019
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on: May 10, 2019, 10:00:04
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Site contains correspondence ...
If you read those letters, it's hard to understand the argument - they don't seem to be talking about the same ITT▸ . But I think it's something like this: - TOCs▸ have always had to bear their share of any extra funding of their bit of the rail pension scheme (RPS), when a deficit needed repair.
- The RPS is an unusual scheme, in that all funding - including deficit repair - and any excess to be repaid is split 60/40 with the employees (via their unions). In most sponsored schemes the company bears the whole liability for adequate funding, which is why the pension deficit/surplus appears in their balance sheet.
- In a "normal" scheme, the deficit repair payments can be much larger than the contributions based on salaries paid. There isn't any way for such one-off payments to happen in the RPS. I imagine that the employees' side could never come up with a large "bung" to the RPS, and TOCs have come to rely on their maximum contribution being effectively capped by that.
- What's changed is that the pensions regulator (TPR▸ ) is now telling schemes and sponsors to repair deficits faster - in the past this was often done one a 20-year or longer timescale. They want this done to the RPS too, though note that the size of its deficit is not public information.
- There are discussions still going on involving TPR, RPS trustees, unions, TOCs (via RDG‡), and maybe DfT» , about faster deficit repair than the current rules of RPS allow for. That might imply new rules (though that's a separate argument).
- So I can only infer that TOCs are being asked to commit to paying whatever comes out of this negotiation, which is (as Stagecoach are saying) not within their control. It wouldn't be a real negotiation if it was, would it? (Though sponsoring companies do, in the end, generally get their way whatever a scheme's trustees say.)
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Weekend Engineering Work and Notice Given
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on: May 09, 2019, 22:43:06
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The relevant bit of GWR▸ 's "Planned engineering" page says this: Currently, Network Rail is unable to update timetables so far in advance. You should check your plans the week before you travel. Read more about how this affects all train companies.
What does this mean for you?
Most customers won’t be affected; particularly on travel Mondays to Fridays before approximately 22:00.
You can still book in advance, and most tickets will be on sale as normal. Although Advance Purchase fares may not be available until Network Rail has confirmed the timetable.
If you book your tickets through GWR, and there is a change to your journey, we will advise you to check your plans again.
If you buy a ticket for a service that is significantly changed, or won’t run at all, you can travel on an alternative service, or apply for a refund. To find out more, visit our refunds and compensation section.
So on that basis you could perhaps travel via Westbury - though the wait for a replacement bus there is rather long, so it's not a lot quicker (2h 28m).
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Journey by Journey / Transport for London / Re: Crossrail/Elizabeth Line. From construction to operation - ongoing discussion
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on: May 09, 2019, 14:36:20
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Some this may be familiar ... I still see comments about Crossrail being the biggest infrastructure project in Europe, but it lost that crown years ago to Le Grand Paris Express (to talk only about the railway element). This is meant to bring more city-centre transport to the banlieu (i.e. outside the périphérique), not just as a metro but an express one to cope with the greater distances. The lines are more tangential than radial - the only extra link to the centre extends metro line 14 - so it will rely on the RER for that (which looks odd). It really is big. 200 km of new lines, mostly tunneled, and 68 stations - all architect-designed! - and two big viaducts. And some parts have a deadline of 2024 for the Olympics, though fewer than at the start due to slippage. Given that work started in 2016, and tunneling only in 2018, getting any of it open by 2024, and the rest (bar one line not yet finalised) by 2030, is "challenging" (as they say). The déjà vu is in the official reports that the cost (rising) was pushed up by that scary deadline. No doubt there will be more such reports later - unless the French way of managing grands projets really is much better than ours. And the cost? €19Md in 2008 prices at the start, but by 2017 it was €35Md (2012 prices) ... if it keeps rising like that then frogs may start jumping ship! Now, what else could go wrong ... how about Siemens CBTC▸ on Alstom trains supporting headways of 85s? The official Grand Paris Express site has a map plus some English words (don't try to understand the line numbering!), and Metro Report International has the news.
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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Fare on direct Waterloo to Weymouth via Salisbury train
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on: May 08, 2019, 09:22:22
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In previous years they have offered promotional fares from Salisbury, and stations west to Yeovil Junction, to Weymouth. Split ticketing may be the best answer. However, tickets are valid on any through service, however routed.
Are you sure? The only tickets listed on BRFares from London to Weymouth are route specific - via Southampton and via Westbury. There is no "any permitted" which - I agree - would be valid on a through service, even from Waterloo via Reading, Oxford, Worcester Shrub Hill (train reverses), Bristol, Taunton (reverse) and Castle Cary (reverse). From the NRG instructions: Most customers wish to make journeys by through trains or by the shortest route. In both cases they will be travelling on a permitted route, provided the correct fare has been paid to reflect any routeing restrictions indicated by the fares data. Reference to National Routeing Guide data is only required when a customer is not using an advertised through train or the shortest route.
A through train is advertised in the National Rail Timetable as a direct service which offers travel between a customer’s origin and destination stations as provided on the ticket that they hold for the journey being made. This route may not be a permitted route if a change of train is necessary to complete the journey. So this does appear to be a direct train that is on a permitted route but only with a ticket that is not available to buy. I don't recall seeing that dealt with in the NRG...
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Metrowest Status
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on: May 07, 2019, 19:34:03
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From the Marine Operations Procedures of BPC: The maximum dimensions of any vessel transiting the river Avon are as follows:- - Max Length 70 m
- Max Draught 4.5 m
- Beam 14 m
- Or any other vessels as may be determined by the SHA.
The M5 Bridge height is charted (Admiralty Chart 1859) as 29m at HAT Notes: SHA should I think be CHA, the Competent Harbour Authority (BPC). HAT is Highest Astronomical Tide.
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Metrowest Status
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on: May 07, 2019, 16:55:39
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Why is a bridge to Portishead from the Severn Beach Line a silly idea?
The Avon is part of the Port of Bristol, and large ships have a right of navigation as far as the harbour entrance. The current "air draught" under Avonmouth bridge is about 30 m at high tide, so any new bridge would need to be as high, movable, or its lower height agreed by the port company.
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