Were the tavern cars one of Bulleid's carriage designs?

Remember in the days of the old licensing laws, introduced so that production was not reduced in the world war, the afternoon closing did not apply on market day. There used to be one bus into Fakenham market in the morning and a very merry bus home in the evening. Somebody used to hire horse-drawn gypsy caravans for holidays. Apparently if you didn't make an obvious decision where to go the horse would automatically do a tour of the local market days.

I remember that back in the 1970s, when licensing laws required pubs to close in the afternoon, taking a journey on a heritage railway was a civilised way to carry on drinking through the afternoon.

I remembered this thread touched on through services in the North East when I saw this news from The BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page)


or am I getting confuse with this daily service

07:08 Middlesbrough
07:15 Thornaby
08:13 York
10:20 Kings Cross

15:27 Kings Cross
17:21 York
18:08 Thornaby
18:18 Middlesbrough

I could certainly see a potential market for this as a new sort of rail tour attraction although the Fun Police Heath and Safety people might become somewhat exercised by this.
Visiting heritage railway special events might also prove to be a popular promotional tool.

Of course there is worse than the airline journey.

They lump all petrol/diesel cars together, but one of these Chelsea tractors (large SUV) with a single occupant would be more Carbon than  the commercial flight.

I dread to think what Rishi Sunak's helicopter would be!

Of course for commercial flights, trains and buses it depends on the loading you assume.

For trains it depends on the diesel/electric split.

And for all electric modes it depends on what you assume about the carbon in the grid!

I could have sworn we had a thread that mentioned going to the "Three Plovers" or "The Green Man" after work in London ... reminded here on Facebook about them.


Is on-train catering in a dedicated social environment something of the past, or is there scope for a return of the "Lord Nelson", "The King's Arms", "The Smoking Dog", the "Liz Truss", the "Engine and Tender" or "The Office"?

At 10:56, RTT^» (Real Time Trains - website) is showing

1W15 07:36 Paddington - Great Malvern left Hanborough at 0901¾ but has yet to arrive at Charlbury.

1P30 08:13 Foregate Street - Paddington stationary at Charlbury since 09:15.

I am in total agreement with promoting the use of train rather than plane for domestic journeys.   However, advertising that skews a complex but good story to the extent that the figures quoted or misleading can do more harm that good in my view.   I picked this up from GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway)'s Facebook feed with reference to a Rail Delivery Group report.


Oh dear - the assumption that people want to go city centre to city centre is inaccurate, but convenient if producing a comparison that's shows a train as the best way.  And the provision of a table of taxi / minicab costs seems odd and potentially biasing.   If I were travelling - say - from Central London to the centre of Glasgow and flying the journey, I suspect I would never the less use local public transport out to Heathrow or Gatwick rather then hiring a [mini]cab.

Facebook thread at:
https://www.facebook.com/gwruk/posts/pfbid0fyT1hdKPRw8X6R6sGEXiTee8VgkFef1y53aXKfHXXUhJVu6mNLXeCQXzYaNinkyvl

Referenced report at:
https://www.raildeliverygroup.com/clearingtheair