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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2014, 17:41:19 »

Your quote marks imply that you don't think it possible that passengers could make such a mistake.
Pretty much yes. Why would you separate the ticket from the reservation ticket after you've picked them up from the station or had them delivered by post?
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Combining everything into one ticket just makes sense; it's fail-safe.
Exactly and that is why it's a good move by the rail industry.

I have every sympathy with those who make a genuine mistake when travelling on Advance or off peak tickets and are on the wrong train. What I am fed up with is those who are blatantly trying it on and more often than not get away with it.
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2014, 19:02:34 »


Why would you separate the ticket from the reservation ticket after you've picked them up from the station or had them delivered by post?


Because you didn't know it was important. Why would you fail to take the credit card receipt portion with you? As it happens, that bit isn't important - but it looks pretty similar to the other bits of cardboard, especially to a layman.


I have every sympathy with those who make a genuine mistake when travelling on Advance or off peak tickets and are on the wrong train.


But how do you judge? They could be trying it on every bit as much as the folk without their reservation ticket.
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2014, 19:23:40 »

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The seat reservations are wrong... Advance 1ST Class in Coach C?? Errr No!

Coach B might be correct if the set was a HST (High Speed Train). But it's rare for XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) HST to go west of Plymouth Roll Eyes

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Must be for a summer Saturday as the only time a XC HST comes to Cornwall.......

The date shown is a Saturday in April though, so not quite a summer Saturday.
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2014, 22:00:35 »

I've just merged a few threads here for continuity.

A member at RailUK has posted an actual scan of the new ticket from Northern's new TVMs (Ticket Vending Machine): http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1752329&postcount=184 (You will need to be registered and logged in at RailUK to see the attachment)

The first two tickets (in new design), look IMO (in my opinion) awful.  The date is very difficult to read and the overlapping text just a poor bit of work.  However, I like the extra text rather than abbreviations of everything plus the URL to an actual restriction text.  I also wonder how the circle, diamond and smaller text (e.g. the price) will look in machines with faulty printers (of which there are many).

I like the font on the old-style tickets from the new machines.  Definitely much easier to read.
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2014, 23:07:08 »

I've just merged a few threads here for continuity.

A member at RailUK has posted an actual scan of the new ticket from Northern's new TVMs (Ticket Vending Machine): http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1752329&postcount=184 (You will need to be registered and logged in at RailUK to see the attachment)

The first two tickets (in new design), look IMO (in my opinion) awful.  The date is very difficult to read and the overlapping text just a poor bit of work.  However, I like the extra text rather than abbreviations of everything plus the URL to an actual restriction text.  I also wonder how the circle, diamond and smaller text (e.g. the price) will look in machines with faulty printers (of which there are many).


I like the font on the old-style tickets from the new machines.  Definitely much easier to read.

For the sake of the ones who dont want to register on yet another site, can you nick the picture and chuck it up on here?
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2014, 23:12:17 »

No: that would be inappropriate.  Lips sealed
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2014, 13:10:22 »

Page four in the 'Your ticket to travel' leaflet shows a pretty good representation of the ticket print quality based on the ones that I've personally seen. Came as a bit of a shock when I first saw them as they were initially only from TVMs (Ticket Vending Machine) at a couple of obscure Northern stations. I think now anything purchased online and collected from a Northern TVM is of this design.

http://www.atoc.org/latest-publications/
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2014, 17:35:19 »

And now another version of CST is doing the rounds. One correct and one incorrect.
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2014, 19:54:52 »

I don't think they are an agreed new national style. 

They seem to be some other TOC (Train Operating Company)'s tweak of the previous style to add the space for the Aztec code (a bit like a QR (QR Code - Quick Response code) code but not quite) - but I think the new designs in ATOCs» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here) leaflet are still the eventual intention.

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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2014, 21:18:58 »

I don't think they are an agreed new national style. 

They seem to be some other TOC (Train Operating Company)'s tweak of the previous style to add the space for the Aztec code (a bit like a QR (QR Code - Quick Response code) code but not quite) - but I think the new designs in ATOCs» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here) leaflet are still the eventual intention.

Paul

They would have to be an agreed style otherwise RSP/ATOC wouldn't let them use that design.
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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2014, 09:25:03 »

I collected a ticket for a Great Northern service yesterday at London Victoria (queue avoiding) Gatwick Express machines and noticed the "status code" for my railcard discount was printed as "16-25" instead of "Y-P".  Only some six years after the name changed... Roll Eyes

Also saw a ticket with a QR (QR Code - Quick Response code) code (similar to SDS's post above) discarded near Cambridge station.  Does anyone know which TOCs (Train Operating Company) are issuing these and if any TOCs are actually using the QR code for any reason?
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2014, 11:45:00 »

I saw a ticket with "EASIT" in the discount area - where the railcard type is printed - anyone seen this? What is it?
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2014, 11:50:28 »

I saw a ticket with "EASIT" in the discount area - where the railcard type is printed - anyone seen this? What is it?

http://www.easit.org.uk/rail.php

they are a green transport initiative I believe.

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First Great Western 15% discount

easitDISCOUNT incorporates FGW (First Great Western) routes to and returning from: Reading.
 Valid on: Peak & Off Peak, Singles, Returns, Weekly, Monthly, Quarterly, Six Monthly, Annual and First Class tickets.  Tickets must be purchased from a FGW ticket office.

easitDISCOUNT incorporates FGW routes to and returning from: Oxford.
 Valid on: Peak & Off Peak, Singles, Returns, Weekly, Monthly, Quarterly, Annual and First Class ticket types. 
 Tickets must be purchased from a FGW ticket office.
 You will require a Photo ID Card and easit hologram sticker to take advantage of the discounts available.

Farnborough North, Wokingham & Maidenhead destinations are due to launch in September 2014 - more information will follow...
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2014, 13:20:08 »

I collected a ticket for a Great Northern service yesterday at London Victoria (queue avoiding) Gatwick Express machines and noticed the "status code" for my railcard discount was printed as "16-25" instead of "Y-P".  Only some six years after the name changed... Roll Eyes

Also saw a ticket with a QR (QR Code - Quick Response code) code (similar to SDS's post above) discarded near Cambridge station.  Does anyone know which TOCs (Train Operating Company) are issuing these and if any TOCs are actually using the QR code for any reason?

East Coast (at Doncaster certainly, less sure about other stations) have been issuing tickets with QR Codes for many months now. Don't know if they are used for anything in particular. Most of my journeys involve visual checks by guards (EM trains and XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))) or none at all on East Coast. Barriers at Derby and Leeds swallow them without choking too!
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2014, 14:20:18 »

I think the barcodes are issued by EC for all destinations. Ive seen them all the way down here in Wales.
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