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« on: June 04, 2013, 13:18:15 » |
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The DFT▸ 's 'New Stations Fund' will provide 'up to ^20 million' of new funding. So far we've had the following confirmed allocations: | Newcourt | ^0.75million (towards scheme valued ^1.5 million) | | Ilkeston | ^4.5 million (towards scheme valued ^6.5 million) | | Lea Bridge | ^1 million (towards scheme valued ^6 million) | | Pye Corner | ^2.15 million (towards scheme valued ^6 million) | | Kenilworth | ^5 million (towards scheme valued ^11 million) | | Total | ^13.4 million |
So there ought to be some money still in the pot, but of course any announcements will be spaced out for maximum impact. Obviously Kenilworth will be announced a few more times; I'm sure Patrick McLoughlin will put out another press release when he moves from being 'strongly minded' to 'very strongly minded', and so on... But leaving aside the inevitable re-announcements, anyone want to take a punt on what'll be announced next? Edit: Corrected cut/paste error |
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2013, 13:33:55 » |
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Newcourt seems to feature twice in your post?....
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2013, 14:40:54 » |
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I've been caught out by my inability to use scissors and glue again. I have corrected it in the original post.  |
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2013, 15:55:30 » |
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Where is Newcourt anyway...?
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2013, 22:05:22 » |
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But leaving aside the inevitable re-announcements, anyone want to take a punt on what'll be announced next?
I'll take a punt that it won't be Worcester Parkway.  |
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2013, 23:25:28 » |
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| Newcourt | ^0.75million (towards scheme valued ^1.5 million) | | Ilkeston | ^4.5 million (towards scheme valued ^6.5 million) | | Lea Bridge | ^1 million (towards scheme valued ^6 million) | | Pye Corner | ^2.15 million (towards scheme valued ^6 million) | | Kenilworth | ^5 million (towards scheme valued ^11 million) | | Total | ^13.4 million |
Interesting variance in the cost of these schemes. What's the difference between Newcourt at ^1.5m, ^11m for Kenilworth and arround ^6m for the others? I don't know what sort of lines they are on (though from what I've read elsewhere Pye Corner is on the Ebbw Vale line, so I assume that one's single track), but what do you get in the way of improved facilities for the larger pricetags. The total cost of Fishguard & Goodwick was under a million if I remember rightly, but facilities are almost non-existant (LED departures board and a bus shelter). |
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2013, 10:11:31 » |
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larger car parks, better road links?
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 10:43:21 » |
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Shopping list 1 - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-227509552 platforms each 109 yards long, capable of being lengthened later 2 footbridges (!?), one of which fitted with lifts at both ends Station Buildings / Ticket Office / TVMs▸ 2 Platform shelters. 2 sets of yellow lines because expresses pass by quickly 1 bus interchange area etc - the facilities you really need in a station that serves a town of around 23,000Shopping list 2: 1 short platform 1 gate and slope from road to platform 1 bus shelter on platform the facilities that are needed for an intermediate station within an urban area |
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2013, 22:11:38 » |
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Shopping list 2:
1 short platform
1 gate and slope from road to platform
1 bus shelter on platform
the facilities that are needed for an intermediate station within an urban area
The odd thing, though, is that Newcourt is getting more than that. It'll have a footbridge, to link into a footpath to Sandy Park (meaning Newcourt will be used alongside Digby & Sowton to handle matchday crowds). I've heard that it will have the same facilities as Digby & Sowton, meaning that it will also have CIS▸ and a TVM▸ . |
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2013, 22:33:50 » |
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Found a document which sums everything up - here. There is a plan of the station on P39, and a summary of costs on P40, which are... Platforms ^180,500
Footbridge, steps & ramps ^235,000
Furniture, facilities & lighting ^161,750
Access to station ^5,000
Railway enabling works ^308,500
Prelims ^337,700
Topo & GI ^25,000
Design ^78,600
Network Rail PM costs ^111,000
Contingency and Risk ^1,082,288
Total ^2,525,338 I'm assuming, since this is a "shovel ready" scheme, that the contingency and risk costs have been and gone, leaving the rest of the scheme costing ^1,443,550. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2013, 22:47:11 » |
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I'm assuming, since this is a "shovel ready" scheme, that the contingency and risk costs have been and gone, leaving the rest of the scheme costing ^1,443,550.
Sorry contingency and risk costs may reduce as you get further into the design stage, but the biggest risks are during construction - particularly what you might find when you dig a hole or try an alter an existing structure. Risk and contingency can only be set to zero when you have finished the job. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2013, 09:02:03 » |
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Is that defined as a 'shovels back in the van' project?
Paul
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 09:52:37 » |
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Is that defined as a 'shovels back in the van' project?
Paul
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