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« on: July 14, 2013, 21:53:42 »

Won't be popular tonight - Sunday is usually pretty busy - hopefully the regulars are on holiday....

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Owing to a train fault this service will be formed of a High Speed Train set of carriages. It is regretted that 'Sleeper' berths will not be available.
This is due to a train fault.

(A shame the template they have to use for the website only includes "Additional Facilities")   Embarrassed

I assume there will be an empty stock working at some point tomorrow to get one set back to London.  57603 "Tintagel Castle" should be involved at some point - saw it in the sidings at Long Rock on Saturday night with the ill-fated rake of sleeper coaches.
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 05:36:38 »

Knock on effect is the 07:41 Penzance to London Paddington will start from Exeter St David's because the HST (High Speed Train) planned to run the service was used for the sleeper.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 07:40:19 »

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Cross Country have kindly agreed for those First Great Western ticket holders who would have travelled on this altered train service to travel on their 08:28 Penzance to Glasgow service between Penzance and Exeter St Davids in order to connect with alternative train services.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 09:04:43 »

Not much help taking the XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) service if trying to get to work anywhere East of Camborne for 9am though. I imagine a lot of late people to work in Cornwall this morning.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 10:37:10 »

The XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) service also stopped at Hayle and 1A81 is stopping at Saltash & St. Germans additionally.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2013, 01:03:45 »

Sleeper set went through Dawlish mid morning on the up.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2013, 09:24:16 »

It ran in the path of the 0740 although was approx 20 early at Saltash due to non stop.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 12:44:47 »

Was this a 57 fault again? If so FGW (First Great Western) seriously need to look at alternative motive power, as there are only so many times you can let your customers down before they look elsewhere e.g stay in a hotel
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2013, 19:50:28 »

And what options would there realistically be to replace the 57s, as HST (High Speed Train) power cars are not an option yet?
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2013, 20:05:18 »

Was this a 57 fault again? If so FGW (First Great Western) seriously need to look at alternative motive power, as there are only so many times you can let your customers down before they look elsewhere e.g stay in a hotel

But if they use a hotel, they will use a day train to get there. Guess what they are operated by the same company so irrelevant to FGW really.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2013, 16:58:27 »

if the sleeper class 57 problems are getting more frequent then surely retire them and hire class 67's?
i do not know if class 66 could be used for sleeper coach hauling?

what do you need, 3 of them?

pity you cannot use HST (High Speed Train) power cars, something to do with 2 different voltages and electric wiring on HST mk3 coaches and normal mk3 coaches...totally incompatible..hmmm what a great way to build things

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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2013, 17:55:22 »

Power Cars will no doubt be used in the future after IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.) happens, however even if they were compatible, are there even any spares to use?
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2013, 06:44:23 »

gosh it seems that in 2013 we really are running a mend and make do railway!

in the 21st century this is totally unacceptable and appalling the Govt allowed this to happen and there are no new build stock on order apart from the IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.) electrification units (from Hitachi in 2017/18)
local FGW (First Great Western) services will then get class 319 (old Thameslink units) to replace turbos...

HST (High Speed Train) power cars cannot pull sleeper or loco hauled mk3 coaches as they have 2 different electric systems,

half the Uk's fleet of trains cannot be coupled to other stock/loco's and such anomalies.

the class 57 loco's are as old as i am...(The HST's are old too but FGW have done a pretty good job in updating and they are the best trains to travel on but how long can they go on)

i know all of these points have been pontificated on here widely but i'm entitled to my rant lol

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2013, 08:56:19 »

Re. the 319 cascade, I think you will find this is no longer the case, new EMU (Electric Multiple Unit)'s will be the order of the day.
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2013, 09:04:40 »

re 319's

but nothing yet has been ordered?... Roll Eyes
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