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« on: March 24, 2013, 11:25:29 » |
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Do you think they will ever reinstate the plymouth to Waterloo service. I really miss the convenience of the service  . |
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2013, 11:46:57 » |
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No!
Too much revenue extraction from current TOCs▸ FGW▸ and CC.
So unless the service was run by the same TOC it would seem unlikely
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 17:21:16 » |
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There are still SWT▸ "via Honiton" fares available between Plymouth and London, which would only require one change at Exeter. Given that the Exeter to Waterloo service is hourly or better from 0610 until late evening, a straightforward change of trains at EXD» doesn't seem like an excessive hardship.
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LiskeardRich
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 18:58:27 » |
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There are still SWT▸ "via Honiton" fares available between Plymouth and London, which would only require one change at Exeter. Given that the Exeter to Waterloo service is hourly or better from 0610 until late evening, a straightforward change of trains at EXD» doesn't seem like an excessive hardship.
An Off peak Plymouth to London Terminals via honiton is ^87.10 compared to a Plymouth to London Terminals any permitted ^111.50. an anytime via honiton ^202 vs any permitted ^262! These prices have surprised me, as I dont recall ever paying anywhere near these prices from Truro 18 months ago! |
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RichardB
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2013, 12:50:21 » |
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There are still SWT▸ "via Honiton" fares available between Plymouth and London, which would only require one change at Exeter. Given that the Exeter to Waterloo service is hourly or better from 0610 until late evening, a straightforward change of trains at EXD» doesn't seem like an excessive hardship.
An Off peak Plymouth to London Terminals via honiton is ^87.10 compared to a Plymouth to London Terminals any permitted ^111.50. an anytime via honiton ^202 vs any permitted ^262! These prices have surprised me, as I dont recall ever paying anywhere near these prices from Truro 18 months ago! You probably had a Super Off Peak Return - ^89.00 from Plymouth to London (any permitted). ^101.50 from Truro. An anytime ticket (Standard Open) from Truro is now ^275.00! |
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2013, 17:58:53 » |
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There are still SWT▸ "via Honiton" fares available between Plymouth and London, which would only require one change at Exeter. Given that the Exeter to Waterloo service is hourly or better from 0610 until late evening, a straightforward change of trains at EXD» doesn't seem like an excessive hardship.
Also, with the WAT services starting at EXD, seats are not usually an issue. |
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LiskeardRich
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2013, 18:22:07 » |
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2013, 21:13:00 » |
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Picking any Rail photograph at random which seems to be a regular practice of the media. The Plymouth extension is unlikely to be re-instated as the reason for it's withdrawal was to provide additional Units between Waterloo and Exeter for an augmented service following the re-doubling of a section of line through Axminster.
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2013, 21:30:13 » |
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Although given one dmu is currently used on hire for the "Melksham" service and another on the Lymington electrified branch then one could argue that they do have a couple spare.
Though I agree that reinstatement is very unlikely, and there are probably better uses that 2 spare units could be put to elsewhere on the FGW▸ network if such a choice existed.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2013, 22:14:12 » |
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The Lymington unit is used more as a case of "not enough electrics" rather than "too many diesels". Simply put, all of the 450s (and 444s and 455s for that matter) are in use elsewhere on a weekday. My educated guess is that this may change in the relatively short term as SWT▸ receives more electric units in the form of the extended and additional 458/5s and 456s, together with what sounds like a new order for additional electric stock.
To the untrained eye passing Salisbury depot in the middle of the day it may well look like SWT has hordes of 159s to spare, but you must remember that SWT's traffic is far more morning/evening peak-orientated than the "west" DMU▸ side of FGW▸ : 158s/159s are running between Salisbury and Waterloo at half-hourly intervals in 9- or 10-car trains during the peaks, not to mention some six-car formations that are booked to run to and from Exeter. That leaves very few units spare for much of the day.
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RichardB
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2013, 23:48:05 » |
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I'm afraid I can't see the Waterloo - Plymouth trains returning anytime in the foreseeable future.
Re Lymington, since it is such a short branch, I'm surprised SWT▸ can't use one of the 508s in store at Eastleigh.
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paul7575
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 10:19:34 » |
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I'm surprised SWT▸ can't use one of the 508s in store at Eastleigh.
They are being scrapped, because they are old and knackered. Paul |
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