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« on: January 06, 2008, 20:40:58 »

Slightly curious, but what stations/deopts nearby that FGW (First Great Western) have services to have refueling facilities?
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2008, 20:42:36 »

Slightly curious, but what stations that FGW (First Great Western) have services to have refueling facilities?
Only depots have fuelling facilities, Penzance (Longrock), Plymouth Laira, Exeter, SPM (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot)) (Bristol) um don't know the others
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2008, 20:43:42 »

Slightly curious, but what stations that FGW (First Great Western) have services to have refueling facilities?
Only depots have fuelling facilities, Penzance (Longrock), Plymouth Laira, Exeter, SPM (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot)) (Bristol) um don't know the others

hmm, i swear i've seen trains being refueled at cardiff (station not canton), or was this something else?

excuse my lack of knowledge in this area :p
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008, 20:47:05 »

Slightly curious, but what stations that FGW (First Great Western) have services to have refueling facilities?
Only depots have fuelling facilities, Penzance (Longrock), Plymouth Laira, Exeter, SPM (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot)) (Bristol) um don't know the others

hmm, i swear i've seen trains being refueled at cardiff (station not canton), or was this something else?

excuse my lack of knowledge in this area :p
Probably coolant or if it were the bowsers on the platform then they are for filling the water tanks for the toilets.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2008, 20:58:16 »

Me thinks Oxford has refueling point, would also expect Swansea to fuel FGW (First Great Western) HST (High Speed Train)'s,
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2008, 21:16:23 »

Thinking about it for SAFETY reasons, Fueling cannot be done at Stations.

As Vacman quoted Engine Coolant is added at stations, also Buffet and Toilet tanking takes place at stations.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2008, 21:19:58 »

Swansea Landore, Old Oak London, Reading Turbo Depot, can they fuel at Fratton? (Dont think so?)..
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2008, 21:24:43 »

Swansea Landore, Old Oak London, Reading Turbo Depot, can they fuel at Fratton? (Dont think so?)..

Yep they can.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2008, 21:25:18 »

Thinking about it for SAFETY reasons, Fueling cannot be done at Stations.

As Vacman quoted Engine Coolant is added at stations, also Buffet and Toilet tanking takes place at stations.

I've always assumed that the trains with pipes out of them at PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) are being refueled

Although.........

Diesel is not flammable the same way as petrol or jet fuel.  
It does not explode

So maybe it could be fuelled safely - in my parameters of what I accept as acceptable risk
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2008, 21:35:25 »

Refueling is Dangerous at Stations, or indeed at Refueling points, whilst Diesel won't ignite like Petrol, when fueling the Engines are still Hot there is a Small risk of overfilling and spilt fuel could ignite.
 
The biggest risks are that (and it does occur at refueling points to staff on occasions) Passengers could be sprayed with Diesel, spilt Diesel is also a Massive Hazard, and most of all Refueling Diesel is a Very SMELLY job.

Refueling points also have spill aprons so that any spillage will not end up in water courses.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2008, 21:50:04 »

The pipes at Paddington are purely for the toilet tanks and buffet.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2008, 22:03:34 »

Refueling is Dangerous at Stations, or indeed at Refueling points, whilst Diesel won't ignite like Petrol, when fueling the Engines are still Hot there is a Small risk of overfilling and spilt fuel could ignite.
 
The biggest risks are that (and it does occur at refueling points to staff on occasions) Passengers could be sprayed with Diesel, spilt Diesel is also a Massive Hazard, and most of all Refueling Diesel is a Very SMELLY job.

Refueling points also have spill aprons so that any spillage will not end up in water courses.

Passengers could be sprayed with diesel -  happens to me most time I fill my truck - not something I would regard as a hazard and not something I would complain about if I walked close to a train being refuelled

Spilt diesel is a hazard cos its slippy - if not, why do the farmers in my area get away with leaving "fuel on road"  signs everywhere when they should clean it up.  again - danger of slipping is something I put to my own ability to deal with danger.

diesel is smelly - yes so is pad when 3/4 HST (High Speed Train) are about to pull out - so what - hardly likely to make it worse (and it may kill the smell of the BK which makes me want to vomit every time I walk past it!)

Again in this day and age I can see why not - I just dont agree (but then I dont agree with 90% of H&S (Health and Safety) or the nanny state)
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2008, 22:06:34 »

I think we should also remember how big any trains fuel tank is, would take a few jerry cans to fill one up!
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2008, 22:08:52 »

I think we should also remember how big any trains fuel tank is, would take a few jerry cans to fill one up!

How big is a tank on a HST (High Speed Train)?


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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2008, 22:10:42 »

I think we should also remember how big any trains fuel tank is, would take a few jerry cans to fill one up!

How big is a tank on a HST (High Speed Train)?



couple of hundred gallons I think? maybe more? you'll know Jim!! Wink
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