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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2014, 18:27:04 »

An excellent account, Four Track, Now!  Cheesy

I've seen a similar incident, a few years ago now, which I recounted at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=8016.msg81419#msg81419  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2014, 00:25:22 »

Within the next 2-3 months the barriers at Paddington, Slough and Reading will be in operation from 0500 to 0100 daily.  Should cut down on some of the anti-social behaviour and ticketless travel in the area.  People who are heavily intoxicated will not be allowed entry to these stations as well

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2014, 16:47:52 »

 Shocked Heard they took over ^40k by manning barriers at Reading last night !! Good show FGW (First Great Western)
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2014, 17:01:34 »

Shocked Heard they took over ^40k by manning barriers at Reading last night !! Good show FGW (First Great Western)


Well if that was the typical revenue that FGW were/are missing out on, on a typical evening. Then that just about says it all Roll Eyes Embarrassed Lips sealed
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2014, 17:03:52 »

But does that ^40k include the revenue that would normally be taken at Reading on a Friday night?
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2014, 17:07:17 »

But does that ^40k include the revenue that would normally be taken at Reading on a Friday night?
No I think this was penalty fares being dished out to those that expected barriers to be  wide open.
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2014, 17:12:04 »

So, if we assume (for simplicity) they all travelled from Paddington, with the anytime single being ^22.20, then the penalty fare would be ^44.40.  That means around 900 people would have been issued with a penalty.  A rather impressive operation.
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2014, 20:34:31 »

Why would that many travel from London to Reading on a Friday night?!!!

I'm sorry, but the nightlife in London is far superior (whatever your want) in London that it ever is in Reading!!
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2014, 20:36:15 »

Why would that many travel from London to Reading on a Friday night?!!!

I'm sorry, but the nightlife in London is far superior (whatever your want) in London that it ever is in Reading!!
People go to London for the evening, then return on a late night service...?  Certainly something I've found myself doing recently (not to Reading though).

I only used London for simplicity in calculating a figure.
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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2014, 20:39:23 »

When the barriers at reading were manned (as were PAds)...

I'd suggest pax commuting into reading from local-ish stations, so lot more paying a lot less (prob max ^20 pf)
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2014, 19:47:14 »

When the ^50/^25 (4x single fare) PF (Penalty Fare) comes into play. Kaching!
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2014, 21:10:32 »

Postponed indefinitely, I've heard
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2014, 12:29:12 »

Postponed indefinitely, I've heard

Would have thought now was the best time to introduce secondary legislation to increase the PF (Penalty Fare) to penalise fare evaders. There is an election coming up soon apparently.
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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2014, 14:24:03 »

But does that ^40k include the revenue that would normally be taken at Reading on a Friday night?

......and presumably there were considerable additional costs in manning the barriers/having RPIs (Revenue Protection Inspector (or Retail Price Index, depending on the context)) on duty at that time of night?
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2014, 18:40:10 »

Saw some revenue protection in action today. Amusing it was too.

I won't say too much about the location so as to protect the guilty.  Smiley

I was sat on the train and the conductor approached a lad across the aisle from me, asking for tickets or fares. The lad did the pocket dance and then after some fumbling fails to produce a ticket, says he must have lost it and then claims he has no money. Conductor says he'll have to take some details, but lad refuses to give name, address, or produce ID. Conductor warns him that he's committing two criminal offences, explaining that there are a large number of Revenue Protection Inspectors and the BTP (British Transport Police) at the end of the line today. Lad says, "I'm getting off at the next station, nothing you can do." Next station is unstaffed.

Lad does indeed get off at the next station. Straight into the arms of the revenue team who had obviously moved up the line. The look on this lad's face was a picture as he realised all the station exits were covered. He tried to re-board but the conductor was having none of it. Shouting to the team, "Here's one for you. No ticket, no money. Refused to give me his details."

I spoke with the Conductor after this. Tells me he's encountered the lad before with no ticket or means to pay. He said that he was tempted to shout "Gotcha!" before dispatching. He satisfied himself with a smirk and the thumbs up to the revenue team.
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