Mobile friendly site

[whole diary]

[Chris from Nailsea]

Thanks, Network SouthEast! 

I, too, would like to thank grahame yet again for providing us all with such a fantastic forum here in the Coffee Shop. 

In the absence of a 'like' button, I must admit to having occasionally simply posted a in a reply to a post which I found particularly amusing, for example.  After a couple of weeks, when that particular context has passed and the discussion has perhaps moved on, I merely remove that 'smiley' post. 

As to adding an additional 'mobile version' of this forum: I'm really not opposed to the idea at all - I just don't want to lose the absolutely brilliant site we already have here. 

[Network SouthEast]

 

[Network SouthEast]

Ooooohhh, a like button has appeared. Thanks! 

[grahame]

Ooooohhh, a like button has appeared. Thanks! 

It's under test ... and as my Javascript it crap, it doesn't automatically refresh the page, so as yet you get no confirmation of your action.   I'm going to leave it at that for tonight - I've had some fun doing something I wasn't supposed to have the time for today, but it's something I've wondered about in the past ....

[grahame]

OK ...I have some feedback (at least) on the button when you press it now.  Not clever if you press the same button several times without refreshing the page, but at least you get some feedback the first time.

Note that the like button, and a listing of the likers of a page, is only shown to logged in members.

[tom m]

I am just discovering taptalk:

http://tapatalk.com/

I don't think it is supported here but are there any plans to do so, I belong to a number of forums and it certainly makes navigating round them easier.

[grahame]

I am just discovering taptalk:

http://tapatalk.com/

I don't think it is supported here but are there any plans to do so, I belong to a number of forums and it certainly makes navigating round them easier.

Chances are that it is not supported here and that there won't be a plugin for the rather mature software that we run (I've taken a quick look at the website and that's how they do it).  I'm also not familiar with tapatalk and I don't think it's [yet?] got a significant number of users.   I stand open to correction by other forum members on that, by the way.

There have been some exchanges between the admins as to how / if we could take "mobile friendly" forward, looking in particular at the risks of damaging / effecting / disrupting the established experience, and of having the resources available (skills and time) to do it.   Some experiments I did the other day have persuaded me that a different URL for a different mobile browsing (initially) experience may be possible, with a server login to write / test / update that experience available to a trusted volunteer with the right technical skills.    By personal message, I'll bring this note to the attention of a couple of people;  other well established technical member who could help are very welcome to contact me - but please note it's all a volunteer / no pay thing, and the work will purely be on the current version which may be dramatically changed in due course as described above.   In reality, I'm going to suggest that won't be for at least 15 months.

[Alan Pettitt]

I have found that using Opera Mini (not regular Opera) browser on my phone this forum is reformatted as a very mobile friendly site. I don't know how the Opera server does it but it works for me.

[Brucey]

I have found that using Opera Mini (not regular Opera) browser on my phone this forum is reformatted as a very mobile friendly site. I don't know how the Opera server does it but it works for me.

You mean like this?  http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=14021.new;topicseen;wap

My old phone (which didn't have wifi or 3G) would display this version automatically.

[Alan Pettitt]

No, not like that, just like the full size website but formatted in a single column with everything showing on the screen just to be scrolled down.

[thetrout]

The forum already has this capability. But as some smartphones and tablets have browsers that can understand real html. The mobile devices doesn't always pick up the settings from Apache like they should.

Try these links:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop?wap

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop?wap2

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop?imode

[Network SouthEast]

I've looked at those links, but they don't seem to be much use if you actually want to post a reply!

[grahame]

Some new data - the profile of our user base over the last month

Which Operating System?   29,147 sessions. Data columns are: rank, OS^▸ (Ordnance Survey), Session count, percentage new sessions, new user count, bounce rate, pages per session, session duration; latter columns all averages.

1.   Windows   16,500(56.61%) 30.49% 5,031(48.92%) 33.67% 6.17 00:06:31
2.   iOS   5,899(20.24%) 48.38% 2,854(27.75%) 53.81% 3.31 00:03:06
3.   Macintosh   2,918(10.01%) 25.67% 749(7.28%) 32.52% 6.18 00:10:14
4.   Android   2,780(9.54%) 44.24% 1,230(11.96%) 55.00% 3.64 00:03:26
5.   Linux   601(2.06%) 34.78% 209(2.03%) 28.79% 4.57 00:05:44
6.   Windows Phone   246(0.84%) 50.00% 123(1.20%) 63.01% 3.07 00:02:07
7.   (not set)   88(0.30%) 7.95% 7(0.07%) 55.68% 1.93 00:03:49
8.   BlackBerry   76(0.26%) 60.53% 46(0.45%) 68.42% 1.61 00:01:00
9.   Chrome OS   34(0.12%) 88.24% 30(0.29%) 76.47% 2.38 00:01:13
10.   SymbianOS   2(0.01%) 100.00% 2(0.02%) 100.00% 1.00 00:00:00
11.   Nintendo 3DS   1(0.00%) 100.00% 1(0.01%) 100.00% 1.00 00:00:00
12.   Series40   1(0.00%) 100.00% 1(0.01%) 0.00% 2.00 00:03:57
13.   Xbox   1(0.00%) 100.00% 1(0.01%) 0.00% 5.00 00:03:33

[JayMac]

That Bill Gates...

He's doing something right. 

[Red Squirrel]

That Bill Gates...

He's doing something right. 

Are you referring to his charitable work? 

Without wishing to add to grahame's workload, I wonder what the breakdown is by browser? W3C^» (World Wide Web Consortium - about) have Chrome at 60% now! http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Their OS^▸ (Ordnance Survey) split is reasonably close to grahame's, with the various flavours of Windows taking about 73%: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

All of which I find a bit confusing, given reports like this ( http://www.intelligentpositioning.com/blog/2014/01/mobile-and-tablet-traffic-set-to-overtake-desktop-by-mid-2014/ ) which claim that by now most traffic should be from mobile browsers. Does it just come down to how you measure it?