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[grahame]

Without wishing to add to grahame's workload, I wonder what the breakdown is by browser?

   1.   Chrome   8,096(27.78%) 37.50% 3,036(29.52%) 40.93% 5.93 00:07:02
   2.   Safari   7,697(26.41%) 41.04% 3,159(30.72%) 47.34% 4.18 00:05:43
   3.   Internet Explorer   7,101(24.36%) 31.57% 2,242(21.80%) 36.09% 5.93 00:04:57
   4.   Firefox   4,341(14.89%) 28.59% 1,241(12.07%) 28.96% 5.29 00:05:52
   5.   Android Browser   1,149(3.94%) 33.77% 388(3.77%) 49.96% 4.53 00:04:32
   6.   Opera   216(0.74%) 19.91% 43(0.42%) 33.80% 4.95 00:06:13
   7.   Opera Mini   131(0.45%) 10.69% 14(0.14%) 45.04% 2.55 00:03:33
   8.   IE with Chrome Frame   117(0.40%) 12.82% 15(0.15%) 37.61% 4.11 00:06:23
   9.   BlackBerry   76(0.26%) 60.53% 46(0.45%) 68.42% 1.61 00:01:00
   10.   Amazon Silk   67(0.23%) 74.63% 50(0.49%) 79.10% 1.70 00:01:04
   11.   Iron   62(0.21%) 24.19% 15(0.15%) 3.23% 7.81 00:03:31
   12.   Mozilla Compatible Agent   50(0.17%) 8.00% 4(0.04%) 16.00% 4.34 00:01:11
   13.   Safari (in-app)   15(0.05%) 93.33% 14(0.14%) 66.67% 1.87 00:00:47
   14.   Maxthon   10(0.03%) 0.00% 0(0.00%) 10.00% 8.70 00:03:52
   15.   Camino   6(0.02%) 66.67% 4(0.04%) 0.00% 4.17 00:00:57
   16.   Nokia Browser   3(0.01%) 100.00% 3(0.03%) 100.00% 1.00 00:00:00
   17.   SeaMonkey   3(0.01%) 100.00% 3(0.03%) 66.67% 1.33 00:01:50
   18.   UC Browser   2(0.01%) 100.00% 2(0.02%) 100.00% 1.00 00:00:00
   19.   (not set)   1(0.00%) 100.00% 1(0.01%) 100.00% 1.00 00:00:00
   20.   BrowserNG   1(0.00%) 100.00% 1(0.01%) 100.00% 1.00 00:00:00
   21.   Nintendo 3DS Browser   1(0.00%) 100.00% 1(0.01%) 100.00% 1.00 00:00:00
   22.   S40 Ovi Browser   1(0.00%) 100.00% 1(0.01%) 0.00% 2.00 00:03:57
   23.   ThumbnailAgent   1(0.00%) 100.00% 1(0.01%) 100.00% 1.00 00:00:00

[Chris from Nailsea]

Squirrels are such inquisitive things, aren't they? 

[JayMac]

Chrome top of the list. 

Good to see that the once ubiquitous IE is in third.

Now if only the 'Preview Post' bug when using Chrome can be sorted... Not a criticism of our excellent host, grahame. I'm sure it's a Simple Machines Forum issue.

Oh, and one user reading the forum on a Nintendo 3DS. What the...?

[Surrey 455]

Chrome top of the list. 

Good to see that the once ubiquitous IE is in third.

Now if only the 'Preview Post' bug when using Chrome can be sorted... Not a criticism of our excellent host, grahame. I'm sure it's a Simple Machines Forum issue.

Oh, and one user reading the forum on a Nintendo 3DS. What the...?

Weird, I've only recently moved from Firefox to Chrome and wondered why the preview box looked different. Now I know it's a peculiarity of the browser.

[Brucey]

Now if only the 'Preview Post' bug when using Chrome can be sorted... Not a criticism of our excellent host, grahame. I'm sure it's a Simple Machines Forum issue.

Any chance of a screenshot?  Just tested the 'Preview' button in Chromium on my Linux machine and couldn't see anything different to Firefox.

[Surrey 455]

Now if only the 'Preview Post' bug when using Chrome can be sorted... Not a criticism of our excellent host, grahame. I'm sure it's a Simple Machines Forum issue.

Any chance of a screenshot?  Just tested the 'Preview' button in Chromium on my Linux machine and couldn't see anything different to Firefox.

This is how preview looks for posting this message on Google Chrome in Windows 7.

[Brucey]

Now if only the 'Preview Post' bug when using Chrome can be sorted... Not a criticism of our excellent host, grahame. I'm sure it's a Simple Machines Forum issue.

Any chance of a screenshot?  Just tested the 'Preview' button in Chromium on my Linux machine and couldn't see anything different to Firefox.

This is how preview looks for posting this message on Google Chrome in Windows 7.

Thanks for posting the screenshot, Surrey 455.  I seem unable to replicate the problem on my Linux machine, so it must be a problem specific to Chrome on Windows.

[paul7575]

I get almost the same problem with Safari on an iMac; my 'preview post' appears in a scrollable box about 1 line high.  I emailed Grahame about it some time ago, but I'm sure he has more important things to do.

Paul

[grahame]

I get almost the same problem with Safari on an iMac; my 'preview post' appears in a scrollable box about 1 line high.  I emailed Grahame about it some time ago, but I'm sure he has more important things to do.

Paul

I'm very much aware of a handful of software issues such as this which are irritating but not show stopping, and to the best of my understanding do not compromise security.   A look at the code has lead me to conclude that the pragmatic approach has been to let sleeping dogs lie, and offer some form of explanation when asked - which I am now doing.    There is a more general discussion to be had looking forward, on a forum that has grown in post volume and age way way way beyond what either of the founders expected and which is run in our own time and is free to users and unsponsored from outside myself / my own business.

Paul - it sounds like I failed to acknowledge your email on the subject?   If that's the case - sorry - I can offer the "I get a lot of spam" excuse when clearly it wasn't spam, but then a bad workman blames his tools.  I tend to be either quick answering things or to think "I'll get back to it later" and often overlook in that latter case - however, I do remember when later reminded. I don't recall this one, though - so probably my spam trap or my personal non-reading on a perusal of subject lines, etc.

[paul7575]

No problem at all Graham, it's easy enough to check a post once made and edit if necessary.  It's just intended as a 'data point' in case you ever went off looking for something affecting the browsers mentioned earlier.

Thanks

Paul

[Richard Fairhurst]

The preview bug should be easy to fix - the div with id 'preview_body' has an inline style of 'height: 20px'. If you remove that then it'll grow to the correct height.

[JayMac]

How does one remove that part of the element permanently? I can do so on a post by post basis, but can't get the preview box to full height for every post.

[grahame]

The preview bug should be easy to fix - the div with id 'preview_body' has an inline style of 'height: 20px'. If you remove that then it'll grow to the correct height.

Taking a look - seeing if that's hard coded or generated on the fly, and wondering if it will effect anything else - fix one problem and introduce another.   In any case thanks for the pointer; these things are only easy if you / I can identify what to do 

[grahame]

The preview bug should be easy to fix - the div with id 'preview_body' has an inline style of 'height: 20px'. If you remove that then it'll grow to the correct height.

Taking a look - seeing if that's hard coded or generated on the fly, and wondering if it will effect anything else - fix one problem and introduce another.   In any case thanks for the pointer; these things are only easy if you / I can identify what to do 

Richard, it's not hard coded anywhere I can see - changes back at the source would need to be made to code that's filtered by PHP and then run by JavaScript before being rendered - so it's easy enough to change as BigNoseMac has done at his browser, on a one-off, but rather harder to do so two levels back. I fear that if I start something during the daytime and then end up with an effect wider than I expect, I would be likely to render the whole forum unstable in what's proving to be out rush-hour today ... in fact rather like cutting a signalling cable and then having to struggle to repair it.   And I'm not honestly sure that I still have the skills to do the repair.  If you're familiar with SMF^▸ (Simple Machines Forum - The software we use on this site) and can confidently point in the right direction or do the job, great - but even then in the middle of the night.

[Richard Fairhurst]

How does one remove that part of the element permanently? I can do so on a post by post basis, but can't get the preview box to full height for every post.

I don't think you can, unfortunately. I'd usually suggest the Stylish extension for cases like this, which lets you write your own styles for any website. (I use it for the BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) website to stop the witless "Have Your Say" boxes cropping up in live blogs!) But this is an inline style so will override any stylesheet directives.