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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2014, 09:45:46 »

Apparently, there was a similar "out of gauge order" story in Montreal last month - see ctvnews. Or at least some French commentators like to think it was similar.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2014, 16:39:05 »

Some good points there stuving. Not checking properly arguably led to the loss of the first Arianne 5, through a mismatch of computer programmes developed for Arianne 4. And a certain well-known ship, built by a certain well-known engineer, was stuck in Bristol's harbour for more than a year after launch because it wouldn't fit through the locks. The locks were supposed to have been widened, but weren't. The ship was built wider than it should have been, and fitting the engines before it was towed out, giving it a deeper draught than was originally intended.

S^gol^ne Royal's principal concern in this fiasco will be S^gol^ne Royal.
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2014, 10:06:34 »

This isn't really on the same topic, but most French reporters think it is.

RATP are going to replace 30 escalators (along Metro lines 14, 6, and 13) that are less than 10 years old, at a cost of ^6M minimum. They are suing the makers (CNIM), citing design faults which have led very high levels of failure, maintenance, and their being out of service.

The thing that the press have been having fun with (e.g. Le Figaro) is that they are "too wide". They were procured as having treads 1 m wide, instead of the customary 0.9 m, but I am sure the tracks were built to this width too. I can only imagine (as no-one has bothered to report on it) that squeezing the running gear into the narrower space involved some design compromises that just didn't come off.

RATP have explained the wider treads were meant to increase throughput. Really? How? I can't see how you can get more people side by side. It makes more sense to me it was to cope with luggage on wheels which, even if not so big as to be dangerous (and justify "please use the lift" signs) does get in the way.

RATP has already sued CNIM (and won, at least partly) over a moving walkway at Montparnasse, installed in 2002 and which never worked. That might explain why I found it such a long walk - if you think some of the treks in London are long, try Montparnasse to Montparnasse-Bienven^e Metro.
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2014, 22:02:10 »

It's good to know that they're taking steps to deal with the problem.
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2014, 12:14:59 »

It's good to know that they're taking steps to deal with the problem.

indeed. It's always a good idea to escalate problems like this.
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2014, 16:32:35 »

It was stairing me in the face...
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2014, 22:07:51 »

It's certainly a step in the right direction, but they'll to take it one step at a time.  Lips sealed
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