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« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2008, 17:04:51 » |
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It's a set 10 years i believe, i don't think theres any performance extensions planned as part of it
Its 7 years with a 3 year extension dependant on performance-so yes, 7 years! |
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« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2008, 17:08:25 » |
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It's a set 10 years i believe, i don't think theres any performance extensions planned as part of it
I think its 7 and a half years with a 2 and a half years extension. |
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« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2008, 17:09:10 » |
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It's a set 10 years i believe, i don't think theres any performance extensions planned as part of it
I think its 7 and a half years with a 2 and a half years extension. Nope, def 7 with 3 year extension. |
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« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2008, 17:21:58 » |
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The way they are going, no more than 7 years!
About the livery:
I just thought Wessex liveries were more imaginative.
I did hate the Wessex insides!!!!! FGW▸ are better at that.
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« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2008, 17:28:55 » |
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Nope, def 7 with 3 year extension.
Yep, spot on Vacman, it is as you say 7 and 3. I must be thinking of another recently awarded franchise. |
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« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2008, 17:43:53 » |
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Sorry shazz ......BUT Voyagers are probably the worst train ever made,
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« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2008, 17:50:16 » |
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Sorry shazz ......BUT Voyagers are probably the worst train ever made,
Defo- they are terrible! |
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« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2008, 17:52:44 » |
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Well, dare I put 3 numbers into a combination to make 142??? think i'd prefer a voyager to one of them!
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« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2008, 17:56:02 » |
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Sorry shazz ......BUT Voyagers are probably the worst train ever made,
And for that one reason I always wondered why so many thought that Virgin XC▸ were the be all and end all of rail franchises. They got rid of the entire HST▸ fleet and replaced them with tin cans. |
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« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2008, 17:57:28 » |
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It's a set 10 years i believe, i don't think theres any performance extensions planned as part of it
I think its 7 and a half years with a 2 and a half years extension. Someone sucks at wikipedia sources then  Time to edit away! (anyone got a link confirming this?) I still stand by my decision of calling voyagers some of the best stock the country has, as from lots of use of them, i still think they're incredibly good compared to hst's |
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« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2008, 18:38:18 » |
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Sorry shazz ......BUT Voyagers are probably the worst train ever made,
And for that one reason I always wondered why so many thought that Virgin XC▸ were the be all and end all of rail franchises. They got rid of the entire HST▸ fleet and replaced them with tin cans. I see the tin cans almost everyday, time to start a new sport "vomet comet spotting" Last week I saw a 5 car Vomet Comet with all 5 engines working, first I'd seen in months, normal to see 5 car sets with at least 1 engine NOT working (or on Tick over only). Half of 4 car sets are also without 1 engine, have seen a 5 car set running into Exeter on just 2 engines, think it was then Cancelled and didn't work to Plymouth. |
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« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2008, 19:00:47 » |
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Everyones allowed there own opinion, you think they suck, i think they rock.
Just because you don't think they do, and seem to think i should agree with you, doesn't mean i'm going to.
Deal with it.
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« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2008, 19:19:13 » |
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I still stand by my decision of calling voyagers some of the best stock the country has, as from lots of use of them, i still think they're incredibly good compared to hst's
And so you should Shazz. I've seen on other forums that many do prefer Voyagers over an HST▸ . I just feel that it was an opportunity missed to provide a really decent piece of rolling stock for XC▸ IMHO▸ . I admit I'm very biased towards HSTs and they are the best train every to be built in this country, still going over 30 years later. I do like the accelaration on a Voyager though...they don't hang around. |
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« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2008, 19:29:43 » |
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if only virgin added another 3/4 coaches (voyager/superv) to each of them. they'd be practically perfect for most of the stock round the UK▸ IMO▸ (but granted they probably couldnt afford a lot more stock than they paid for, after all ^1bn is no "small" stock order)
And i'm fairly sure they'd still be in command of the XC▸ franchise as it is now if they did.
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« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2008, 19:32:13 » |
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I still stand by my decision of calling voyagers some of the best stock the country has, as from lots of use of them, i still think they're incredibly good compared to hst's
And so you should Shazz. I've seen on other forums that many do prefer Voyagers over an HST▸ . I just feel that it was an opportunity missed to provide a really decent piece of rolling stock for XC▸ IMHO▸ . I admit I'm very biased towards HSTs and they are the best train every to be built in this country, still going over 30 years later. I do like the accelaration on a Voyager though...they don't hang around. They don't hang around?, now that depends on how many engines are running. |
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